Battle Adjustments (02/01/2011)Follow

People that either don't like to leech, don't get invited to leech, dislike having to start am aby pt so they CAN leech.

You mean refresh-*****, haste-***** and curebot?

Guys, it's over and done with. Please keep to the original topic. I know that it's a big subject of interest for the forums, but there's no need to derail a topic cause of it.

you act like skill acquisition in this game is uber challenging. It did not help me learn RDM to refresh and cure bot a million xp parties. I learned how to solo RDM on my own in difficult situations. I learned how to play RDM in NM situations by reading up on the NM and strategies and then doing what I was required to do. Sometimes it didn't work out so well and sometimes it went smoothly. But I learned from those failures and got better.

But no amount of 6 man refresh/haste/cure botting would have made me better at that stuff. By level 30 I was more than comfortable with using a macro palette. By level 50 I was totally fine with managing my MP.

The only role to the excessive grind was to consume time so SE could keep you playing longer.
But times have changed. And it certainly won't stimulate new players to have them take eons to get to Abyssea levels. Get them into the game a bit quicker I say. There they can learn the skills necessary. Abyssea is a far better environment for that. Easy available NM's to learn on.

It's not like you need to get uber skilled so you don't ***** up the groups one chance a month at a heavily camped 24 hr spawn NM.

Well actually i didn't. I just quoted teh wrong part of your post. Must have been my migraine. This is what I was disagreeing with:



Old content was far too grindy for the educational experience it afforded. New content still gives you ample time to learn provided you don't take excessive short cuts. Abyssea offers great learning challenges that will give a player game skills far quicker than he'd learn killing crabs and birds over and over again.



For new players it is (was). Any veteran will breeze through it. But back in the day, it was quite a challenge and even today it takes some time if you are a newbie. FoV helps but the lack of people partying hurts. A no sub BLM newb is going to be pretty overwhelmed.

Derails are rarely the result of individual posters, but rather they are the nature of conversation. No one has ever been banned just for derailing a thread.

ON TOPIC, I'm torn between trying to eke out a level on a lowbie job tonight, or just waiting until the update comes. There are plenty of other things to do with my limited FFXI time today, and why do the work now when I can do it later for double the reward?

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Cleaned up the thread a bit.