Dracoth wrote:
rdmcandie wrote:
Actually that is not entirely true.
ex. 1000*1.6 = 1600
adding 15% instead
1000*1.3*1.15 = 1495
The break point is about 20MAB = 15%. (from the staves.) So for the 30% staves you would need about 40MAB to stay on top
check.
1000*1.7 = 1700
1000*1.3*1.3 = 1690
This applies from about 75D all the way to the end.
75*1.7 = 127.5
75*1.3*1.3 = 126.75
10000*1.7 = 17000
10000*1.3*1.3 = 16900
It should be noted that the more MAB you add the less the relative return is. For example lets say you have 80MAB to start, and you add 20MAB
1000*2 = 2000
1000*1.8*1.15 = 2070
Edited, Feb 15th 2011 6:25pm by rdmcandie
Edited, Feb 15th 2011 6:48pm by rdmcandie
ex. 1000*1.6 = 1600
adding 15% instead
1000*1.3*1.15 = 1495
The break point is about 20MAB = 15%. (from the staves.) So for the 30% staves you would need about 40MAB to stay on top
check.
1000*1.7 = 1700
1000*1.3*1.3 = 1690
This applies from about 75D all the way to the end.
75*1.7 = 127.5
75*1.3*1.3 = 126.75
10000*1.7 = 17000
10000*1.3*1.3 = 16900
It should be noted that the more MAB you add the less the relative return is. For example lets say you have 80MAB to start, and you add 20MAB
1000*2 = 2000
1000*1.8*1.15 = 2070
Edited, Feb 15th 2011 6:25pm by rdmcandie
Edited, Feb 15th 2011 6:48pm by rdmcandie
Looked at my spreadsheet, and nothing I said about the pieces is incorrect. It all depends on how much you've already got, etc, as RCD pointed out. Speaking inside Abyssea, though, and going /rdm, you can start with a base of 24% (/RDM above 40), 50% (Atma of the Ultimate), 30% (Atma of the Beyond), and assorted gear (17% for what I had when I started using the spreadsheet - need to update with new pieces), you're looking at 121% MAB already. The extra 20 from the two swords that we've got now won't trump the additional 15% that the staves will generate. Outside Abyssea, without all the atma boosts, though, the swords become much more relevant (in this case, I'd only have 41% MAB).
Also, to Vlor, my seal/+2 item/atma farming group consists of THF, BLU, WHM, RDM, BLM run between my brother and me. Occasionally, we might have either a WAR, NIN, or BRD (depending on who we invite to join us), but that's fairly rare. Thus, my ability to handle Sword helps my particular situation. And keeping TP becomes more relevant. If you're able to handle WAR, NIN, WHM + grellow procs, then the whole situation would change.
More or less, I refuse to generally do math with Atma included, because not everyone has it, and outside of abyssea it is redundant, granted outside of abyssea is redundant. I only aim to show that it is situational in either regard.