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#28 Feb 16 2012 at 3:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why do you all even comment on ZelDERPAHERP anymore? He's clearly been doing this for the past few weeks just to get a rise out of you, and it's not even very intelligent trolling either.

Honestly, if you're going to talk about anyone's trolling at all talk about Tanaka; at least he is (maybe, perhaps) intelligent. Then we can balance out the trolling with some laughs.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, SMN update's some pretty fine trolling: of all the jobs it's the most text and changes, and yet it's absolutely meaningless. Then again, the whole RNG aspect of the elementals would be right at home in Neo-Nyzul.

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Edited, Feb 16th 2012 4:17pm by Viertel
#30 Feb 16 2012 at 3:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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I don't understand why two stages are needed for the BST changes, when all the second stage amounts to is a slight attack increase for Falcorr and a recipe change. Maybe they're leaving themselves some room to undo the TH changes after the backlash.

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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
#32 Feb 16 2012 at 3:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why do you all even comment on ZelDERPAHERP anymore? He's clearly been doing this for the past few weeks just to get a rise out of you, and it's not even very intelligent trolling either.

I wouldn't give him the credit of doing it on purpose at this point. It's apparent enough he's just a total f*cknugget.

Aspergers... wtf?
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#33 Feb 16 2012 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Araise (Lv. 99)
Revives and bestows Reraise III upon target PC.
The revived target will suffer from weakness for three minutes.


This looks pretty awesome, you can only get the RR/3 min weakness if you already died I guess though..so limited usefullness unless you are expecting a number of deaths.

That sam buff is a slap in the face to cors, and possibly the reason for the misers roll nerf in the first place.

Edited, Feb 16th 2012 5:00pm by Runespider
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Araise (Lv. 99)
Revives and bestows Reraise III upon target PC.
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This is q

It will probably cost over 600 MP and only ever be used by a WHM on a NIN so they can immediately Mijin Gakure to remove weakness and already have Reraise III on.
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Viertel wrote:
Why do you all even comment on ZelDERPAHERP anymore? He's clearly been doing this for the past few weeks just to get a rise out of you, and it's not even very intelligent trolling either.

Honestly, if you're going to talk about anyone's trolling at all talk about Tanaka; at least he is (maybe, perhaps) intelligent. Then we can balance out the trolling with some laughs.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, SMN update's some pretty fine trolling: of all the jobs it's the most text and changes, and yet it's absolutely meaningless. Then again, the whole RNG aspect of the elementals would be right at home in Neo-Nyzul.

zomgElementalsGiveMoarFloorJumpsToGetToFloor100!111!

Edited, Feb 16th 2012 4:17pm by Viertel

Because I like feeding trolls, and I find it far more entertaining than parroting tanaka hate. Seriously, people need to stop bashing tanaka. I don't care whether they're right or not, I'm just ******* tired of listening to it.
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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
#36 Feb 16 2012 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
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The whole problem is this.

There are two groups of RDM people. The "Rdm is Fine Group" and the "OMGRDM SUCKS PLEASE HELP Group".

The people in the "Rdm is fine group" still see rdm as a great solo job that is just that and they dont think it is used as anything else.

Then there is the OMGRDM SUCKS PLEASE HELP Group. This group of rdm likes to be in parties, however with as strong as whm has become in healing and their "lolenfeeble" there really isnt any room for a rdm.


This is what I think the two groups of people are arguing about. Yes solo rdm is strong. However there isnt room for rdm in most parties anymore.

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Viertel wrote:
Why do you all even comment on ZelDERPAHERP anymore? He's clearly been doing this for the past few weeks just to get a rise out of you, and it's not even very intelligent trolling either.

Honestly, if you're going to talk about anyone's trolling at all talk about Tanaka; at least he is (maybe, perhaps) intelligent. Then we can balance out the trolling with some laughs.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, SMN update's some pretty fine trolling: of all the jobs it's the most text and changes, and yet it's absolutely meaningless. Then again, the whole RNG aspect of the elementals would be right at home in Neo-Nyzul.

zomgElementalsGiveMoarFloorJumpsToGetToFloor100!111!

Edited, Feb 16th 2012 4:17pm by Viertel

Because I like feeding trolls, and I find it far more entertaining than parroting tanaka hate. Seriously, people need to stop bashing tanaka. I don't care whether they're right or not, I'm just @#%^ing tired of listening to it.



I guess the same could be said for you harrassing "trolls"...... Just sayin'
#38 Feb 16 2012 at 4:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Viertel wrote:
Why do you all even comment on ZelDERPAHERP anymore? He's clearly been doing this for the past few weeks just to get a rise out of you, and it's not even very intelligent trolling either.

I wouldn't give him the credit of doing it on purpose at this point. It's apparent enough he's just a total f*cknugget.

Aspergers... wtf?



I keep reading that as asperagus...... Im like WHY BRING THE VEGETABLE INTO THIS! HES DONE NOTHING WRONG!

Edited, Feb 16th 2012 5:02pm by Fumikuu
#39 Feb 16 2012 at 4:04 PM Rating: Default
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Lady Jinte wrote:
Viertel wrote:
Why do you all even comment on ZelDERPAHERP anymore? He's clearly been doing this for the past few weeks just to get a rise out of you, and it's not even very intelligent trolling either.

Honestly, if you're going to talk about anyone's trolling at all talk about Tanaka; at least he is (maybe, perhaps) intelligent. Then we can balance out the trolling with some laughs.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, SMN update's some pretty fine trolling: of all the jobs it's the most text and changes, and yet it's absolutely meaningless. Then again, the whole RNG aspect of the elementals would be right at home in Neo-Nyzul.

zomgElementalsGiveMoarFloorJumpsToGetToFloor100!111!

Edited, Feb 16th 2012 4:17pm by Viertel

Because I like feeding trolls, and I find it far more entertaining than parroting tanaka hate. Seriously, people need to stop bashing tanaka. I don't care whether they're right or not, I'm just @#%^ing tired of listening to it.



I guess the same could be said for you harrassing "trolls"...... Just sayin'

you mean that you don't care and you're tired of @#%^ing listening to it? At least I try to be funny about it. And my targets can flail back at me, which can be even funnier. Insulting tanaka is like insulting the gub'ment. All the cool people do it and it can't fight back, not because it's incapable, but because it doesn't care.

edit: Also, use your ******* edit button, you look like a dumbass if you multi-post like that. Lobivopis did it to get his 10k, and was derided the entire way because it breaks etiquette. Don't be like lobi, he's not a good role model for young posters.

Edited, Feb 16th 2012 4:05pm by Jinte
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Reiterpallasch wrote:
Glitterhands wrote:
Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
#40 Feb 16 2012 at 4:42 PM Rating: Good
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Lady Jinte wrote:
Fumikuu wrote:
Lady Jinte wrote:
Viertel wrote:
Why do you all even comment on ZelDERPAHERP anymore? He's clearly been doing this for the past few weeks just to get a rise out of you, and it's not even very intelligent trolling either.

Honestly, if you're going to talk about anyone's trolling at all talk about Tanaka; at least he is (maybe, perhaps) intelligent. Then we can balance out the trolling with some laughs.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, SMN update's some pretty fine trolling: of all the jobs it's the most text and changes, and yet it's absolutely meaningless. Then again, the whole RNG aspect of the elementals would be right at home in Neo-Nyzul.

zomgElementalsGiveMoarFloorJumpsToGetToFloor100!111!

Edited, Feb 16th 2012 4:17pm by Viertel

Because I like feeding trolls, and I find it far more entertaining than parroting tanaka hate. Seriously, people need to stop bashing tanaka. I don't care whether they're right or not, I'm just @#%^ing tired of listening to it.



I guess the same could be said for you harrassing "trolls"...... Just sayin'

you mean that you don't care and you're tired of @#%^ing listening to it? At least I try to be funny about it. And my targets can flail back at me, which can be even funnier. Insulting tanaka is like insulting the gub'ment. All the cool people do it and it can't fight back, not because it's incapable, but because it doesn't care.

edit: Also, use your @#%^ing edit button, you look like a dumbass if you multi-post like that. Lobivopis did it to get his 10k, and was derided the entire way because it breaks etiquette. Don't be like lobi, he's not a good role model for young posters.

Edited, Feb 16th 2012 4:05pm by Jinte


I did that for an unintentional reason and it wasn't so I could say with a lateral lisp OMGAWSD 10k POST IM SSSSSSSOOOOOO AWWSSSSSOOME....



1st I reasponded to the whole rdm debate.
2nd I responded to your tanka fanboy post and just pointing out your hypocrocy I wanted to try to bring the two sides together to an understanding and I didnt want 2 debates lumped into one.
and the 3rd I had posted those two post and when I came back I see Raelix comment and responded to that cause I seen something funny and wanted to lighten the mode in this forum. (Way to ruin it btw!)

You're down there feeding on "trolls" and I'm the one looking like an idiot? WEll I guess now you can say I'm feeding on a troll feeder..... So I guess I do look look like an idiot!
#41 Feb 16 2012 at 4:56 PM Rating: Excellent
Ok, enough with the talk of trolling and stuff like that. You guys were doing so well there for awhile as far as playing nice (made my chest swell with pride), but lately it's been going back to how things were and I don't want it going that direction again.
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You're down there feeding on "trolls" and I'm the one looking like an idiot? WEll I guess now you can say I'm feeding on a troll feeder..... So I guess I do look look like an idiot!

If you hover over his name a pop-up menu appears. Click on ignore. Suddenly the forum is a much better place.
#43 Feb 16 2012 at 5:03 PM Rating: Excellent
That makes perfect sense. I know when I'm fighting Adze and I'm paralyzed while he's nailing me with endoom, I'm spamming Paralyna as the counter trickles down towards 0. ಠ_ಠ
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Araise looks neat, but I'm afraid to see the pricetag =/

I agree with whoever said the SAM adjustment was a slap in the face to COR, but meh, the hard on for SAM is hardly new.

.........

I pretty much sh*t bricks when I saw SMN's adjustments. Not because they are particularly good (They are pretty much fluff and won't make me want to use spirits) but because:
Something about SMN was poorly designed... SMNs complained... and SE changed SMN.... in a timely manner...... (with regards to the merit point adjustment and to a lesser extent adding tier V nukes I mean...The perp has been an untouched issue for years, in true SMN form, but its adjustment is completely random and obscenely generous by SE standards for SMN so even if it is probably useless and I probably won't use it, I'm too astonished to complain.)

The world is coming to an end, and that annoying 2012 Apocalypse crowd was right.

Although at the risk of alienating RDMs and SCHs, I was hoping Light Spirit would eventually get Cure VI at 80 and Curaga V at 91, for nothing else but completion's sake.

Edited, Feb 16th 2012 6:20pm by RizzoRazzle
#45 Feb 16 2012 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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[dev1087]Job Adjustments: White Mage
A new spell will be added:
Araise (Lv. 99)

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#46 Feb 16 2012 at 7:43 PM Rating: Good
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Also, what is up with the re-prioritization of Remove Breath? I can understand Paralysis being moved up. But now Doom went from priority #2 to #3!? It should be #2 (arguably even #1 before Paralysis).


It was a typo

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Greetings!

Thanks for bringing this to our attention!

The below shows the proper ordering (and I have updated Gildrein's post).

Post-adjustment:
1. Paralysis
2. Curse/Bane/Doom
3. Disease/Plague
4. Blindness
5. Poison

Apologies for the confusion!
#47 Feb 16 2012 at 10:43 PM Rating: Good
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Hmm, SAM gets a buff and others get "balanced". I'm shocked, that's just not the way Tanaka does things...

Well, I'll admit that not all of the adjustments sound like nerfs, BST TH definitely is and I'm not sure what's going on with the reorganizing of the Restoring Breath effects. Paralysis can be annoying, but it's killed people far less than Doom has.

As to Zelduh, like I said last time before it got Vlored, he has a massive persecution complex. It would be sad if it didn't make for some good drama (which has been sadly missing from =10 lately).
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Paralysis can be annoying, but it's killed people far less than Doom has.


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Paralysis can be annoying, but it's killed people far less than Doom has.

Unlikely, given how few mobs use Doom. It also only comes up at all for mobs that use both Doom and Paralyze.

The logic is probably that Paralyze can get you killed pretty quickly, but Doom takes a while, and once you're not Paralyzed you'll likely be able to remove the Doom.
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Ok, enough with the talk of trolling and stuff like that. You guys were doing so well there for awhile as far as playing nice (made my chest swell with pride), but lately it's been going back to how things were and I don't want it going that direction again.


Where is the fun in that though, need a good dust up every now and then. Besides how am I supposed to +1 in =10 without gold like this guy lays out. Its why I spend time in =4. (well at least since =2 has been dead.)
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