Octave Club  

At lvl 80 it works like a KC full time, too bad lvl 80 wont stay the max cap for long...

so at 75 this club is just a regular club?

Any ideas on drop rate % im 0/9 so far

Dual Wield @ level 25 Ninja only gives a 15% delay reduction. The next reduction only comes at level 45 Ninja. Thus, at level 75ANY/37NIN, you are only getting a 15% delay reduction on the delay of TWO weapons. Dual wielding Kraken Club with another multi-hit weapon is just stupid.

I'll use the "Joyeuse + Kraken Club" idea for this exercise:

Kraken Club (264 delay) ONLY:
Anyone who actually has a kraken club, like me, can tell you that you will hit on average 4-5 hits per swing. For simple math's sake, we'll say you hit 4.5 times per 264 delay, or once per 58.66 delay.

Joyeuse (224 delay) + Kraken Club (264 delay) DUAL WIELDED:
(264 + 224) * .85 (15% reduction) = 415 delay
Even if you average 7 hits EVERY swing, which you won't (I've tried), that's one hit per 59.28 delay. In reality, you still average only 5-6 hits per swing with Joyeuse + Kraken Club. Once again, we'll say 5.5, or one hit per 75.45 delay.

Thus, here we have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that dual wielding a Kraken club may seem like a great idea, but it really isn't 90% of the time.

There are, however 2 semi-practical uses:
1. NIN gets max benefit of dual wield at 75. Sure...off-hand for TP build.
2. WAR or PLD TP build solely for Spirits Within...otherwise useless.

Reasons for Kraken Club dual wield uselessness by job:
1. THF already builds TP too quickly for SATA without KC (KC solo is godly tho)
2. DRK Blood Weapon is timed - speed is VITAL - otherwise useless for DRK
3. PLD solo w/KC can spam Starlight (endless MP) PLUS get benefits of shield
4. RDM solo has BIG dps increase with en- spells and can go /BLM for conserve MP
5. MNK well...fun to watch on Hundred Fists...but SUPER useless with club
6. RNG spamming WS = dead RNG (it's already hard enough for tank to hold hate)
7. DRG would have to be retarded NOT to use Polearm
8. SAM would have to be retarded NOT to use Great Katana
9. BST would die by taking hate from pets
10. WHM/BLM/SMN/BRD - PLEASE for the love of god don't melee...

Ok so let me get this straight... the club attacks up to 2 times if your level is divisable by 2, 4 times if divisible by 4 and 8 times if divisible by 8?

It seems there is no end in sight to the rediculous ideas SE can come up with. This items level to equip doesn't even activate it... oh the irony.

drop rate? anyone know what its like on this?

Why do people insist of saying an Octave (if it had multi atk) would be ommguberpwnage if you only have 8 atks per turn



ive tried ridill and kraken and its good for drk but you only tk 8 times

Kclub is only useful single hand. if you wore both your only gimping yourself and making yourself look stupid ^^;

There is a limit of 8 attacks per attack-round. And the nature of Dualwield makes the delay of subbing /nin and using Kclub offhand kills the whole purpose of the Kclub.

Ie: attacking almost constantly.

Which is also why Thf/war will always pwn Thf/nin, lol

Thfnin attacks twice, sometimes 4 times.. then waits 5mins for cooldown

Thfwar attacks almost constantly, with double attack and triple attack procs all along the way.

As for Octave club... $10 says its a Taisai-style joke SE implemented, just so the GMs can GM-Invis next to the pop area with a bag of popcorn and laugh, rofl

from my understanding of the k club is has a chance to do between 2-8 hits a round how ever it may still only do one if this club indeed is simmilar to the k club then you should be able to dule wuild it for 2 reasions

1) if the k club effect is triggered and hit for say 4 hit and the effect is trigged in an off hand weapon and it too hit for 4 then you are still using both weapons and thay are both active

2) with the 8 hit/round cap it will pervent anyone from hitting more than 8 times anyway but the main benifit if haveing the 2 versions of the k club would be to get to hit max times more often

i have seen ppl dule wield both the k-club and mer kriss for the purpose of getting in even more hits per turn up to cap

just my understanding though

can anyone conferm or disprove this please

Not that I believe there's a hidden effect, but you might try....

Job level ending in 8 - i.e. 68
Job level divisible by 8 - 64, 72
Club skill divisible by 8
8 party members

8th hour of the 8th day of the 8th month, when the moon phase is a multiple of 8

(Alright, so the last one isn't serious...)