Active Ability details for Counterstance  

I realy want this to be a good /ja because its a great idea but its not worth it in a party. If you want to farm easies, its great. You got a PL, its realy great. In a party this is useless. Think about it: Even with the best counter gear, how many times are you going to want to take the hate from the tank? Almost none! WHM's get angry because we are already MP spounges and this really doesn't help at all. Don't get me wrong, I love MNK and I love counter but this /ja was poorly made. Not saying that this is how it should be but if i were to remake this /ja I would make it a 10 recast, lasts for 2 minutes, and raises your counter rate by 40-50% and even then this would still only be sorta good for partys. I hope SE trys to fix this even if its just a little.

takes my 129 def to 39 as 45 mnk.

counterstance-
raises chance of countering while greatly reducing your defence

total def loss =
-all def, then giving you defense equal to the defense gained from VIT stat

(2 VIT = 1 DEF)

thought i'd clear that up

edit: funfact: lowest defense obtainable through JA's
lvl 45 taru monk counterstance followed by berserk

ive tested this, if you follow with berserk it subtracts from the already low def of counterstance

thank you for your time *bow*

Edited, Tue Sep 13 22:36:22 2005

AS a level 62 mnk atm i been using croos counter h2h plus some other counter + gear and i been soling em and t with hundreth fist along and i love it yes it hurt when i get thi but if you only get hit 10 times out of the 200 punches you do umm i think is worth it

Edited, Sat Feb 26 16:18:21 2005

after i got this and out pt disbanded just before i could get my level, i got a whm friend of mine to pl me the 800 exp i needed. against DC workers in Crawlers Nest, i only got hit 3-4 times per kill, and only at about double damage(80-90 per hit).

Note: this ability lasts 5 Minutes and has a 5 min recharge. similar to the war's Defender.

I am not sure but I think when I use counterstance it raises my evasion by a lot because I don't get hit as much as if I didn't use counterstance. But the only down side to it is when I do get hit, oh man, it hurts. I thinks this is a cool ability. I just have to get those expensive CrossCounters and Emperor's hairpin plus anything other +agi +eva stuff so it would be better.

If you think this is a bad wep ability, it's not, see, if your farming like some monster that'd kick your *** at 45, lets take, our friend who drops the jujistu gi for an example! (yay 100 fists gonna kick my ***** well, he uses hundred fists, and you put this abi up, sure if he hits you he does some damage... but your gonna counter him till he falls down dead! Avenger's Earrings + Cross Counters + This = DEATH TO ANY NM THAT WANTS TO OWN YOU

The reason it drops you 95% is exactly so that you can get hit every time.. If you dodge/evade guess what chance of counter you have.. 0% :P

Anyway - if I'm not mistaken guard fires if a counter fails. So having maxxed guard/counter (cross counters, the LV42 earrings) etc... Might make it worthwhile...

Last I checked it was called "Counterstance" though ;)

Anxious for a friend of mine to be able to wear guarding torque/max guarding so we can see if this makes it worth a hoot :P

i finally got this and tried it out.

against weaks, i couldn't tell if it worked because the mob couldn't hit me.

against easy prey, it seemed to fire a lot. i countered an easy prey Antican 4 times in a row. the dmg taken was about 3-4 times more than normal.

against an IT fly, i was able to counter a few times and the dmg taken wasn't overly huge. i used it at the beginning of fights when i voked initially while a THF set up trick onto the tank.

I countered an incredibly tough mob 9 times while I got hate about the last half of it's health. Countering in i.t. mob is quite a feat. It works rather well. Plus I evaded it too, so it didn't do too much damage compared to the damage I did to it.

I was fighting a Hornfly in Crawlers Nest btw.