I am a 63 WAR/NIN on Pandemonium and I recently decided to offhand this sword, I parsed my damage with two axes and then parsed my damage with main hand fransisca and offhand bloodsword, over a period of 10 fights each. then averaged the damage, and the bloodsword seemed to surpass the dual axes by a noticeable amount, and the +4 STR is also very attractive. This is an awesome sword, strongly recommend this for any WAR/NIN or DRK/NIN. and before anyone calls me a noob because I'm unconventional, why dont you go try it out... show me some results, then call me a noob.
~Midgetofdoom: Remora | RDM, RNG, BLM 75~ ~Vinze: Pandemonium | DRG, SAM 75 | WAR 63~
OMg ..geesus k rist another idiot that says dont speak until your 75.[DRKone] OK everyone you heard that,hes telling you not to post on this forum unless your a 75..pfft.There is so many scenarios as to why a player may not use the BEST possible option,and anyone with 4x 75 jobs and rank 10 SHOULD know this ,but obviously you do NOT.You can REALLY thank your LS for carrtying your noob *** through this game. You want one small example?Ever play with 2 melee rdm,smn 2x blm?what if there is no SC unless he uses the sword?let me guess the Magic burst from the summoner,2xblm's and the rdm isnt worth a crap right?pfft noob , experience my ***. once again thank your LS for carrying you,i pity them,your prolly one those players who parser every fight ,then go into your LS bragging about your damage.Prolly also bought gil to upgrade to the best possible option at every level.I play with players who cant barely afford a choco let alone always use the best option,so if they got a free weapon from a drop,they might very well use it,instead of listening to some gloating 75 like yourself.
did i mention anything about not posting till your 75? no. i said dont go throwing around your assumptions of what you think if drk/nin offhanding a sword when you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. numurous people have allready quoted you and basically said the same thing i did so maybe you should look at yourself and your knowledge of your own job and re-think things a little. did you even realize you are talking about drks skillchain options with a sword? why the hell would a drk mainhand a sword over scythe/greatsword/axe? if they duel weild anything it is axe/axe or axe/sword. the offhand weapon is used for its added stats and in this case for its superb damage for a sword and its lower delay then axes.
and saying i probably parse all my fights and wear the best gear optional is probably the worse come back i have ever heard lol. you said it yourself. you play with people who cant even afford a choco. and all it takes is 3minutes of farming crystals in any zone to get enough gil for a choco. so that shows alot of who you are by the people you hang out with.
IDK how many of you ppl actually know what you are talking about, drk cannot use 1 handed weps effectively, even if they do decent damage, their SCs are restricted, there are much better 2handed wep skkills to be used, and for those of you who say that this would be good for drk based on the dex and agi+ obviously arent melee or have never subbed thf, andthe fact that it would be meant for drk man thats just aninsult to all of use drks
please stop now. get drk to 75 before you speak. for one..if any drk does chooses to duel wield...they would not main hand a freaking sword, its skillchains do not matter. if a drk duel wields they main hand an axe, the sword would be in offhand..which its not a bad sword for. this is up there with company sword as the best offhand sword for drk
OMg ..geesus k rist another idiot that says dont speak until your 75.[DRKone] OK everyone you heard that,hes telling you not to post on this forum unless your a 75..pfft.There is so many scenarios as to why a player may not use the BEST possible option,and anyone with 4x 75 jobs and rank 10 SHOULD know this ,but obviously you do NOT.You can REALLY thank your LS for carrtying your noob *** through this game. You want one small example?Ever play with 2 melee rdm,smn 2x blm?what if there is no SC unless he uses the sword?let me guess the Magic burst from the summoner,2xblm's and the rdm isnt worth a crap right?pfft noob , experience my ***. once again thank your LS for carrying you,i pity them,your prolly one those players who parser every fight ,then go into your LS bragging about your damage.Prolly also bought gil to upgrade to the best possible option at every level.I play with players who cant barely afford a choco let alone always use the best option,so if they got a free weapon from a drop,they might very well use it,instead of listening to some gloating 75 like yourself.
Not much to say about the item, but for the record, for the first time in probably 8 years for me, I got a bloody nose while reading this page. The irony is killing me. XD
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I have this sword on my 60 war/nin and i`ve noticed the INT help w/ elemental WS such as Red Lotus Blade, and its an awsome sword to boot. BTW for some reason the hp drain goes off every time on too weak crawlers in rollanberry fields for me.
i was a lv 63war/nin i used to dual weild the gluttony sword with the blood sword.its kind of conter acted its stats in a way but for some reason it seemed to make the 2 swords hit harder and the bloodsword would steal hp more often.to top it off they look awesome together
Recently paid 7mil for this but its worth it in my oppinion. On Quetz server this weapon goes up about 1mil per sale on Auction House. The stats are very nice for my WAR, 4STR on a weapon at a lower lvl provides a great deal. The HP Drain kicks in about 1/20 hits at times, and sometimes its 1/5. HP Drain isnt consistent, but provides about 20-50HP on IT+ mobs. Very nice sword for off hand and can be used until end game depending on your choice of weapons. I will most likely use it till i get my Joyeuse.
I wield this at 69war/nin. It is a very nice sub piece.. im only missing out on 1dmg if I use this as compared to the axe that I would be using at this level. Very smart for all War/nin because the biggest modifier for Rampage is +Str. Viola, +4str. Throw this in with Enks. Bracelets >> Haubergeon >> and Amemit+1 with sushi and you suddenly find yourself at +25str. With the badass look and occasional HP drain to boot XD. Found also great for farming.
if you didn't notice, all those minus stats are to skills that don't matter to a drk. so really, its a great sword. drk's don't need vit, they shouldn't be tanking, and they don't need mnd, because there should be no way they are casting cure spells.
Good sub weapon for WAR/NIN imo. esp at lvl 55. I have one. Probably keep it till I get Ridil (as if) or Juggernaut. Haven't seen enough in action or been able to test out company sword in XP yet. Axe will always have better WSs, even for DRK/NINs, but this makes a nice sub weapon and the best sub weapon at its lvl and for many lvls for either job. At 55-60 my off hand with sword did an average of 10%(lvl55)-8%(lvl56-60 Darksteel+1) more dmg than my main axe with accuracy being unnoticeably different, so the skill lvl difference doesnt count for much. Str adds WS dmg either way, and the dex doesnt hurt because crits can be a big part of dmg to mobs that buff or are a little above usual xp range. Theres my 2 cents.
IDK how many of you ppl actually know what you are talking about, drk cannot use 1 handed weps effectively, even if they do decent damage, their SCs are restricted, there are much better 2handed wep skkills to be used, and for those of you who say that this would be good for drk based on the dex and agi+ obviously arent melee or have never subbed thf, andthe fact that it would be meant for drk man thats just aninsult to all of use drks
Not sure how many DRK/NINs you seen, but they're wicked.
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even if they do decent damage, their SCs are restricted, there are much better 2handed wep skkills to be used
How many level 3 skillchains have you been apart of? Cause i'm not sure if you noticed, but Scythe can only open/close one of them, whereas sword can open/close both, leading to a much more dynamic skillchain system, if you have the skills for it.
DRK doesn't get swift blade, so no dark skillchains. It can only use savage blade, which is in the same position as ground strike, sharkbite and dragon kick, so it'll never be a good opener. DRK can use g.sword too, so can close both light and dark skillchains.
hmm i definatly think THF should be able to hold this sword, its stats are lovely for THF plus it has the "i look cool" pimp factor going off.... well one day maybe.
If its black magic, its INT based defense. If its white magic, its MND based defense. INT helps you resist most nukes, MND helps against the majority of enfeebles (Slow, Paralyze etc) as well as Divine Spells like Banish or Holy.
MND helps you resist enfeeblements. INT helps you resist spell damage, as well as (rumoured) certain black magic "enfeeblements" such as Bind... hence why some of the Ranger AF has +int gear on it... helps resistance to a spell a ranger does not want to get stuck with.
Everyone that I have seen use this sword is a war/nin using it as a second weapon and they are never a tank. I kinda don't understand the whole idea of a drk/nin(cauz that's just odd to me) but oh well, anyways... 2 mil on Shiva server atm, have fun and later days
Everyone that I have seen use this sword is a war/nin using it as a second weapon and they are never a tank. I kinda don't understand the whole idea of a drk/nin(cauz that's just odd to me) but oh well, anyways... 2 mil on Shiva server atm, have fun and later days
Come now people drk would so not need this at their lvl. I am a war55/nin27 skill up sword then use viking axe main hand and this in off hand for the great stats. Oh and the what about tanking thing? Well for one the war/nin isnt much of a tank at this lvl espically w/o utsusemi ni. What about the matter of the missed out acc from other viking? Who needs tha much acc even as elvaan one axe and the life belt should be plenty. Plus look at the stats this has, it has as much damage as the darksteel axe +1 that you get at lvl 56 ,and has +4 agil, +4 dex, +4 str, and the every now and then hp drain to boot! So all I have to say is some of the best 700k i ever spent.
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Posted:Feb 01 2005 at 4:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SATA only works for THF main to transfer hate at any time. Subbing THF will transfer hate only during WS. I could see this as an off hand weapon, but its stats lack when compared to dual axes. Farming purposed only, if the HP fires off often enough. More of a toy than anything. But thats just my two cents. Take it as you will.
The purpose of Trick Attack is to trick the mob into thinking the person you're hiding behind is the one that hit it, thus giving hate to the person. If you have Trick Attack, it works. If you're a DRK60+/THF30+, you have Trick Attack, and SATA transfers hate just as it does for a THF main. I'm not even going to try to understand why you don't think it works with THF sub, because there is no logic to it whatsoever. Rate down p^.~q
Ok so on n on about the sword what about the NM anyone ever fought it or know about the spawn time or how bout if its overly camped.also how hard is this fight.