Applying For World Emigration

This was posted on the official site: ------------------ From:FINAL FANTASY XI 11/21/2003 01:00 [PST] Applying for World Emigration (11/21) In response to the increase in World population, we are inviting players to emigrate to different Worlds. Please read the following carefully. If you wish to emigrate, please follow the instructions below. [World Emigration Guidelines] Applicable Worlds: -All Worlds Application Period: From 11/21/2003 01:00 (PST) until 11/29/2003 07:00 (PST) Regarding new World implementation and emigration: -Details regarding whether or not the emigration will take place, the date and time of emigration, the number of new Worlds created, and details about the configuration of new Worlds will be based on the outcome of the recruitment. There will be an announcement at a later time. -3 new Worlds are scheduled to be created. In the event that applicants are divided among multiple Worlds, all applicants from a single World will be moved into the same new World. -In the event that the number of players who wish to emigrate to the new World does not fill up one whole World, the World shift will be postponed. How to apply for World emigration: When the application period begins, an NPC called the World Shifter will appear in each of the following areas. By talking to this NPC, you can apply for or cancel World emigration, and confirm your character's emigration status. Please read the World Shifter's responses carefully before submitting an application. Ru'Lude Gardens (I-10) Port San d'Oria (I-8) Port Bastok (L-8) Windurst Walls (G-6) *Note: After the application deadline, you will be unable to make any further requests for World emigration. How to confirm your World emigration status: During the application period, a login message will appear indicating your World emigration status. If you are already logged in, you can view this message by entering "/smes". Please be sure to confirm your status before the end of the application period. *Message displayed when applying for World emigration: "You have submitted an application for World emigration." *Message displayed when not applying for World emigration: "You have not submitted an application for World emigration." CAUTION: If you are considering applying for World emigration, please read the following points to ensure a smooth transition. When emigrating: Emigration of characters is done one at a time. If you request emigration for any of your other characters, please conduct all applications separately. Character name: If your character happens to have the same name as another player in the World to which you emigrate, you will have to change your name before entering that World. If you need to change your name, your name will be shown in yellow, and you must follow the on-screen instructions. This name change will not affect your Friend List. Delivery Box/Auction items: All items up for auction and in your Delivery Box will be lost when you emigrate. Please collect these items before moving. Any items in your Mog Safe will be transported with you to the new world. Regarding used linkshells: Following a World shift, your linkshells will be automatically exchanged with new, unopened linkshells. If you have an unused linkshell, you may bring it to the new World. If a linkshell owner emigrates, the player's old linkshell will be deactivated and a new unopened linkshell will be automatically provided. -------- They also included the following FAQ about the move: -------- From:FINAL FANTASY XI 11/21/2003 01:00 [PST] Frequently Asked Questions about World Emigration The following is a compilation of frequently asked questions regarding World emigration. Before preparing for World emigration, please refer to following. Question: Will I be able to continue with any of my ongoing Quests? Will I be able to keep my Conquest Points and Rank Points? Answer: Your character status will be carried over to the new World. This includes levels, skills (battle, magic, synthesis), gil, items, Mog House's Mog Safe and layout, gardening status, home point, home country or mission rank, conquest points, etc. Your PlayOnline friend list, email, album, etc. will not change. Question: Will all characters applying be able to emigrate? Answer: All characters that applied during the application period will emigrate. Depending on the application turnout, it is possible that your character will be reallocated or merged into another World. Question: When is the application deadline? What will happen if I barely make the application process? Answer: On November 29th, 2003 at 7:00 (PST), the World Shifter from each World will disappear thus ending application. If you are in process of applying right before this time, the latest World emigration status will be saved. When the World Shifter disappears you will not be able to confirm your changes therefore be sure to take adequate time when finishing your application. There can be no more changes after the application deadline. Question: Is there any cost for World emigration? Answer: No. Any character can apply for free. Question: When I emigrate to the new World, where is my starting point? Answer: You will start from the last position you logged out from. There are no changes with your home point.


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Migration and servers
# Nov 29 2003 at 12:05 AM Rating: Default
Everyone migrating from a particular server will be transferred to the same new server. It says so in the news article here:

-3 new Worlds are scheduled to be created. In the event that applicants are divided among multiple Worlds, all applicants from a single World will be moved into the same new World.

For example, if the old servers are A-I, and the new servers are, let's say, world 1, world 2 and world 3, square is moving people like so:

A ]
B ] ====> 1
C ]

D ]
E ] ====> 2
F ]

G ]
H ] ====> 3
I ]

Depending on how many people move to the new servers, they may merge worlds 1 and 2, or 2 and 3 (if not enough people go) or if more than they expected go they may make even more. Either way, all of your friends/linkshell members/etc. (as long as they are on the same server as you) that migrate will end up on the same server as you.
#Anonymous, Posted: Nov 24 2003 at 2:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's called LANGUAGE BARRIER, thats the whole reason american players want their own servers. It gets really annoying to be looking for people for a group (or opposite) and all you get for a response from half the people is "No english keke ^^;;" (i dont know about you but that symbol thing at the end annoys the **** out of me)
# Nov 24 2003 at 10:15 AM Rating: Default
First off, to let you all know I play on carunkle, and everything seems to be just fine. Players get along, heal eachother and cast protect eachother. Yes you might have that jerk sitting there, watching you die to collect the exp. But that is severywhere. And to let you know they ecomony is fine for both beginers and experts the like. The experts spend 2000+ for 12 fire crystals, which to them is proly just chump change. But to use NA's our faces light up likes it christmas.
I am fine on the server I am on, the only person I have a problem with is the guy that stands in the middle of town, and sells a yagudo feather for 50 gil. I just smack him for good luck. Thats my two cents.
# Nov 22 2003 at 6:55 PM Rating: Default
I can't believe people are bashing the Japanese, because "a" they can't understand them so if anything bad happens, they can blame it on them; "b" they are mostly high lvl characters so people get jealous.
I have seen so many North American Characters begging for items and money... Japanese characters are VERY GENEROUS. They don't jack up the price for anything...
The economy around here has always been the same as anywherelse:

- High Demand + Low Supply = High Prices
- Low Demand + High Supply = Low Prices

And most of the time Japanese players are the one buying junk like silk, crystals,... because these guys are the one highly advanced in crafts. So they do help out new characters. Cause without the high lvl people buying junk, you'll get no money to buy your lvl 5 armor.

I think having people from a different culture on the server is a great chance to learn about a different way of playing. Have you ever been in a American group where people keep complaining about low XP or some other miserable issues? I have been a lot...
Japanese groups are well structured, they are polite and they approach the game with a more "zen" way. It's not for nothing that they have the best games in the world and they get it first. The y make the most of a game and have fun with it.
Right now I'm in qufim trying to lvl up to 30 to be a paladin. The vibe I'm getting from my fellow american players is just not very sane. They all want XP, more XP, and more and more. They don't help people in need. But I am nicely surprised that more and more NA players are copying the japanese style of play...

Stop bashing the japanese because they own. And you don't understand why.

And another thing here. I'm surprised that nobody ever said some sh*t about Square for not putting enough servers out from the beginning, I mean I saw plenty supplies of games on shelves this last month, but I don't see plenty of servers available... When I called them about getting logged, all they can say that it's my fault... We all experienced connection loss, I'm not a single case. And they won't admit it openly. Stop bashing each other and get to the point of this real topic
Which is the world migration, the first thing you guys think about is segregation???? It's not because we're in virtual gaming world that we can't learn from our very history...

RE: Amen
# Nov 23 2003 at 12:57 PM Rating: Decent
Well, from what I can tell part of the server problem also stems from an incident in another game. About 2 weeks ago Gravity LLC banned anyone on their server with over 10million zeny, claiming them to be either botters and/or account hackers. (My wife was banned for this, and frankly she's not bright enough to do either) Originally before this happened and after XI came out, the total server population was about 5k at all hours, and assumed user count of 7-10k.

I made a trial account today to check in on the numbers, and the combined server count was about 2.3k on all 3 servers. I'm guessing Gravity's big "F all you goddam people, we're just stupid and greedy" move screwed themselves, and most of the players went to FFXI and/or private servers. Probably gave 11 a nice boost of a couple thousand that weren't planning to join, not to mention the normal rate.

Okay, I'm done with this pointless lesson for now. =P
Go and migrate, heathens
# Nov 22 2003 at 10:52 AM Rating: Excellent
You know, I thought about it, and I like the idea of only the **** North Americans going to their own server. Go ahead and segregate yourself from the japanese players, less rude inconsiderate people to do with.

Just to get the point across, how many of you have had a random strange hand your newb cash or items? How many of you have been raised? How many of you are getting cash by selling junk like silks? If any was a yes, YOU'VE SEEN HOW GENEROUS AND NICE THE JAPANESE ARE. God, if there wasn't any worse arguement than to seperate ourselves from kind, helpful, and all around nice people, I don't know what it is. Get off your high horses, you all got to start anew at sometime, and someone is always gonna top you.
# Nov 22 2003 at 10:47 AM Rating: Good
Good God, reading down these posts it rapidly turned into total blasting of the Japanese players.

Awww, they're better than us!! Deal. Who the hell cares who's in your server, or whether you NEED them or not. They're there, and they're just as entitled to be there as any of us. Get over youselves...
RE: Weirdos
# Nov 22 2003 at 11:01 AM Rating: Decent
Whoever you are, I love you. =P

Another quick note: I've already encountered 6 different NA players on their advanced jobs on Titan(and that's only in my sheltered roaming of Windurst), should THEY not be allowed to come either? Just because they're freakishly dedicated? (3 Ninja's, 1 DK, 1 Beastmaster, 1 Samurai)
world location
# Nov 22 2003 at 6:42 AM Rating: Default
i dunno if anybody notice the ping we get is around 200-300 and sometimes can get to as bad as 1000 ping, maybe it's just me. i really want to know if the new servers r in japan or in NA.
# Nov 22 2003 at 4:03 AM Rating: Default
Here is my question. If my friend is planning to buy this game after 29th, will he be in the same server with me if I go to the other servers?
Japanese Players
# Nov 21 2003 at 5:19 PM Rating: Default
I don't know about the rest of you but I find it awesome to have Japanese players around. Even though I can't understand them 95% of the time, it makes the world more complex, just like the world we live in. Although it's too bad that most English speaking people can't read Japanese characters, because it would make it a lot easier for people to learn basic phrases and have simple communication with each other. Either way, I love it.
For info:
# Nov 21 2003 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
Q: Some friends and I are, on the same current world, are planning to move.
Will we be moved to the same new world?
A: Yes you will all be moved to the same world if you all have registered to
move and are all on the same current world. All characters from the same
existing world will be moved to the same new world. Even though there may
be multiple new worlds, all characters registered on one world will all move
to the same new world.
You all have problems.
# Nov 21 2003 at 4:29 PM Rating: Default
I can't figure out what you people are whining about. I see Japanese people on all the time and they've never bothered me, they're usually very helpful. I've been in groups with English and Japenese people and both have worked out fine.
The Economy
# Nov 21 2003 at 3:51 PM Rating: Default
The economy for low level players is out of wack in my opinion.

Why, you ask ?

High level japanese players artificially inflate the prices of low level items. They know where these common items drop, they farm them, and sell them for 5 times they're worth.

North American players don't have the same access to these area's, or the knowledge of these drops yet. We're slowly finding out as we level up. This wouldn't of been an issue had north american servers been created.

Don't believe me ? Go look at lvl 20-40 items which are 10 times better then the newbie items and only sell for 2,000 gil. Then you get some lvl 10 item which sells for 40,000 gil ?

Give me a break.

RE: The Economy
# Nov 22 2003 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
What F'ed up server are YOU on? Only time level 10 armor I've seen go for over 5k is uber rare and super useful stuff like Leaping Boots. (10k on my server, nice ******* deal considering it's 3 def, dex, and agi, at 4 levels below the normal 3 def boots.)

Also: most market controlling is done by greedy American players, not the Japanese people. Like the guide on this very site says "the american community is not known of it's manners or generousity"
Wah wah wah >=O
# Nov 21 2003 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
I don't see where all the complaints are coming from about 'screwed up economies'. So far there is nothing I've wanted that I couldn't afford with a little bit of work and patience. Sounds like some of you are only from EQ or nothing else, try Anarchy Online or Ragnarok Online, the state of their economies would make you weep.

Okay, so maybe some of you are refering to the price of synthesis items. Simple thought: it doesn't matter yet. You should be using hard earned cash on equipment to further yourself, then worry about synthesizing crap. Also, not sure of other servers, but most expensive thing I've ever seen is 500k (Black Ribbon), and it's lvl 70, and an english speaking Japanese thf/nin told me he can easily make 100k+ a day on just the money high level goblins in the Outlands drop. (more if he really goes at it)

Zandder: You'll still be able to randomly end up in the world if you're brand new, otherwise normal rules of World Passes will apply to the new servers.
# Nov 21 2003 at 2:25 PM Rating: Default
they are tring to get population down on the current servers as noted. I think plenty of people will move (*** players included).

however if noone moves its not impossible that Square might force an imigration on us i somehow think they would have no qualms about doing that

everyone is saying that your crystals will lose their value... i think not your getting moved WITH everything intact youll simply be moved to another server with other people (BTW there are already lvl 30+ NA players for those of you who dont know) thatmeans high level people will still pay abotu the same for items...

thats just my veiw on this whole matter
after reading a few post
# Nov 21 2003 at 2:02 PM Rating: Default
The should dump this idea and just split up the ***'s and na's :( I don't care about decrease in crystal value and stuff guess what we don't need ***'s to give us a starting base in a mmorpg. I was one of the first players on the eq prexus server and we did fine with out people selling loot to us or us being able to pharm stuff for them. We did just fine we worked our way up the ladder. I personally would rather be on a server of no one being over level 30 that is all americans then a server that has all levels but it's like half half. if u run around "hailing" people only like half of them speak english :(

(sorry for the rant just my 2 cent from sometimes feeling like i'm the only english speaking player)
don't wanna fight :P
# Nov 21 2003 at 1:50 PM Rating: Default
-3 new Worlds are scheduled to be created. In the event that applicants are divided among multiple Worlds, all applicants from a single World will be moved into the same new World.

just wanted people to read that when people talked about getting split up with friends if u all try to switch from your current server you will all end up on the same new server. Me personally i have a group of eq friends that we all started our own "linkshell" only 1 group of us on titan. I wanna suggest we all move no offence to japanese people but after 8pm eastern on titan they take over and no one on the server speaks english it seems.
RE: don't wanna fight :P
# Nov 21 2003 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
I wonder what zone you're in, my link shell has a good 50 people online around that time on Titan. We're all Windurstian's and San d'orian's (hanging in Wind zones mostly)

Seems Titan is a praticularly full server.
Japanese Switching....?
# Nov 21 2003 at 1:20 PM Rating: Default
Think of it this way, if you are one of few people that can take on really high level monsters then the playing field is completely open to you. So those of you who keep saying that the Japanese will not want to move. Think Again
World Emigration
# Nov 21 2003 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
The only bad thing about this is you're not sure if your friends be on the same server as you do. With this reason, I'm sure most JP will not move because at high lvl, you need a group to kill dragon and high lvl mob. I'm also sure alot of NA will not move because of this reason. Imagine you transfer to a world and found out that your wife is in another world. (Someone is going to sleep on the couch for a while)
Moving makes no sense
# Nov 21 2003 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
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It's an interesting proposition but:

#1. I don't want my linkshell/guildmates spread across 3 servers.

#B. Anonymous has a good point about the Market. Fire Crystal speculating aside, there are many crafting items that will have little or no value until the NA/EU crowd start serious crafting.

#C. Why would a high level jp player want to switch from an established customer/friend base after 15 months?

#4. Why the heck would I want to leave a server where the established players are helpful and friendly to new people?
This is simple guys...
# Nov 21 2003 at 12:25 PM Rating: Default
New characters will be able to get WP for the new servers . This is just moving existing characters to the new servers. They are doing this for two reasons. 1) Current servers are getting too crowded and want to add new servers and 2) they dont want the new servers to have no one on them. So if a bunch of players move, the world will be already in progress when new characters start on them.
# Nov 21 2003 at 12:23 PM Rating: Default
You better believe if you shift worlds all those fire crystals you've been selling will cease to be valuable until NA players start crafting en masse like the Nipponese do.
# Nov 21 2003 at 11:14 AM Rating: Default
Zandder if you have a chacrector on a server and you make a new one and want him on that server as well you just need to type the name of the server into the select world thing without a world pass and it should let you in since you already have a char on it
I won't move
# Nov 21 2003 at 11:13 AM Rating: Default
If it was only open to North American chars then I'd move without a second thought, but from what I can see on the Japanese FF11 Playonline site, it's for everyone. So IMO it's not worth it. It'll be more of the same thing, just with less people probably. :P
RE: I won't move
# Nov 21 2003 at 11:24 AM Rating: Default
This could be true. However, why would any of the Japanese players want to move in the first place? Most of them are higher in lvls than we can dream of at the moment, so they wouldn't really have a reason to move. It would be very nice for us to have a lot of the NA players move, because that way, a lot of us would be around the same lvls, and I beleive that the economy would begin to become a bit more decent anyway. Just my opinion, I really hope more people are considering this from NA, because I sure am.
I don't get it...
# Nov 21 2003 at 11:07 AM Rating: Default
So what exactly is going to happen if we do end up switching worlds? Will we all be distributed evenly throughout the 3 newly created worlds, with other people form our previous worlds? I don't really understand the point of having such a shift, unless they're trying to unite all the american players into 3 unique servers, which would be an interesting concept. If this is the case, then I suggest that any americans who want to just be in a serve with just americans should apply for this. There is a chance that some japanese will be moved too, but I believe that the majority will be new players. Post on this, lemme know what you think.
RE: I don't get it...
# Nov 21 2003 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I am definitely going to take advantage of the world shift. People may be wary due to what this may mean to the economies on the new worlds, but it is all relative. The fire crystals may not get much (if anything) for a while, but for that same reason other items will be forced to be under priced as well. Eventually, things will level out and the economy will fine. The prospect of being able to find English speaking groups vastly outweighs any such problems with the economy, in my opinion.
# Nov 21 2003 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
38 posts
It's not like they are letting you pick which server you are going to play on, so it's like making a new char AGAIN on a new server but you get to keep the progress you have already. It's still going to be a random draw for EVERYONE, the only sure thing is that you and your friends on the same server will end up in the same place.

If people are thinking, well, I won't try the server lottery to play with my friends because I can get transfered to their server later, that's not going to work.
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