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Linkshell Community Forums Beta Coming Soon!

Tired of giving your linkshell long, confusing URLs to your message forum? Square will soon be introducing a new feature on the Play Online website that will hopefully make running your linkshell easier! Preview images: Message Board Manager Community Board Allakhazam Discussion Thread From Sage Sundi, Global Online Producer: Beta service for the new "Linkshell Community" community tool will be launching soon. Detailed information can be found on the FINAL FANTASY XI official website, but I thought I'd explain some additional points which we would like our community to understand. We believe that most community activities in FINAL FANTASY XI are based on linkshells. However, for various reasons, there's currently no way in PlayOnline or FINAL FANTASY XI for these communities to "leave footprints." The community management team feels that we're lacking a place to record these live experiences. Generally speaking, for MMO games, there are two main methods to record live, in-game activities. The first way is to use blogs or forums outside of the service, and the second way, though currently the minority, is by using officially provided methods. The FINAL FANTASY XI Linkshell Community doesn't favor one or the other. While its aim is to encourage communication between different linkshell communities, ideally we would like it to coexist with existing sites, such as general information sites which don't belong to any particular linkshell or world, premiere sites, and other major sites and forums. We're aiming to build systems like the following to create synergy between our communities: o Premier sites: Premier planning, main discussion o Community sites: Information sites & forums o Linkshell Community: Communication between linkshells, linking to outside blogs There's one more important point for us in the FINAL FANTASY XI community. Linkshell Community gives moderation authority (management of information written on the site and message boards) to the linkshell owners. Thus, all text or images posted on Linkshell Community website will be moderated by the linkshell owner and up to 2 moderators which are named by the linkshell owner. Any reports about site content will also be sent to these moderators. This is because we think it should be left to each community's moderation policy to determine what do about borderline issues that don't fall under official user agreements and policies. This will be different from an official forum moderated by the community management team. We believe that creating rules and communication for linkshells will encourage self-regulation which results in good community functions for all players. However, in cases where moderation hasn't been done properly or the moderators cannot be contacted for a while, Game Masters may take appropriate action, such as temporarily suspending that Linkshell Community site. Also, because the Linkshell Community is strongly linked to in-game worlds, some penalties may apply to PlayOnline accounts if severe violations are detected. This should not affect communication, but in case of problems caused by non-real-time communication, each linkshell owner's moderation is needed for the Linkshell Community to run smoothly. We're hoping that lots of players and linkshells will use the Linkshell Community beta service while taking this into account. During the beta test, some data is already linked to the in-game world, but we believe you will come up with various ideas while using the Linkshell Community. We're looking forward to seeing interesting discussions and hearing your suggestions for the service. Finally, the beta service and future official service will be free to use and open to every player who is a linkshell member regardless of their region. Also, after the beta ends, unless any problems prevent us from doing so, we're planning to carry over all the data as-is to the official service.

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FFXI==> WoW???
# Jun 11 2006 at 4:39 AM Rating: Decent
This may sound strange but is FFXI slowly forming into wow? I mean the chocobo raising of haveing your own choco (mount in wow) and now this lol this is actually really good though it might bring me back (haha right) but maybe
RE: FFXI==> WoW???
# Jun 12 2006 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
you do realize before wow was even made that chocobo raising and breeding has been in the final fantasy universe (Final Fantasy VII)
Freaking Good Idea
# Jun 10 2006 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
This is a great idea for the game. Like one person said earlier, I do hope also that they will add a function so that we can update the posts on the messageboards and check them and all that jazz from the game. That would be a great benefit not just to PS2 and Xbox 360 people, but to everyone. Just remember that this is a beta version, so thinks could end up being like that in the future.
Neat
# Jun 10 2006 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Yikes. Some people will just never be happy, regardless of what SE does.

Personally, I think this sounds like a cool new feature which will hopefully make setting up LS events, missions, and the like easier for people. As the head of my own LS, I'll definitely be looking into this when its finalized.
Member List
# Jun 09 2006 at 9:25 PM Rating: Decent
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SE just hinted all holders of a Pearl from your LS will be listed and appropriate stats will be given, and I think we've been asking for this for how long?

Can we try to be a little happier?
Bleh.
# Jun 09 2006 at 9:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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We still need more emotes, being able to go to other moghouses, in-MH pets to **** on our stuff and being able to interact with furniture.
hmm...
# Jun 09 2006 at 9:08 PM Rating: Default
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..*snip*.. a new feature on the Play Online website that will hopefully make running your linkshell easier!


I hope that means they'll do something about the god awefull load times for the pages on playonline.com

Before anyone jumps up talking about broadband let me remind you the game was aimed for a low band environ. I think if the game its for is, so should the site..

Oh god forbid anyone say anything that isn't a steller review of all things done by SE..Not a damn thing in the above was worthy of any nuking, and how the **** is saying "I hope feature X gets improved thanks to them adding feature Y.." mean I'm not happy about this, or never happy with anything, you ******* thought ****'s.

Edited, Thu Jun 15 16:46:53 2006
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Hmm I'm Interested
# Jun 09 2006 at 5:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Now if they can tie it into the game so that we can post a message from inside the game with out having to log out (ie. for ps2 & xbox players) that would be great. My LS's forum has 60+ registered users but there are many more in the LS that dont' have a computer to get to the site. And have to rely on key members to be on to find out information.

Over all Still very intrigueing <sp>. I might bring it up with my LS and see what they think
o.o
# Jun 09 2006 at 4:28 PM Rating: Decent
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sweet o.O
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Nice
# Jun 09 2006 at 3:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow, this is nice. They should have thought of it sooner.

Edited, Fri Jun 9 15:34:22 2006
cool beans
# Jun 09 2006 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Looks good to me, a free board in which the theme models that of FFXI, nice fluid graphics, and with the support of a "vana'guide" profile tool built in, i'd say this is a good thing.

sure, most hnmls wont use this.. they already have a board and don't want to switch and keep open an inactive board which contains most of their information. But i think anyone creating a new hnmls or a new ls in general will switch to this message board.

my ls has just used yahoo groups to chit chat, and i was getting ready to add a php board to our site, but with this coming, saves me time and looks much better.

Thiggs, where did you get a Max of 50 threads? I havent seen that anywhere (then again i probaly missed it).

Also, i think people may be reading into certain things the wrong way...

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However, in cases where moderation hasn't been done properly or the moderators cannot be contacted for a while, Game Masters may take appropriate action, such as temporarily suspending that Linkshell Community site. Also, because the Linkshell Community is strongly linked to in-game worlds, some penalties may apply to PlayOnline accounts if severe violations are detected. This should not affect communication, but in case of problems caused by non-real-time communication, each linkshell owner's moderation is needed for the Linkshell Community to run smoothly. We're hoping that lots of players and linkshells will use the Linkshell Community beta service while taking this into account.


That only screams "big brother" if you are fearful of big brother and interrupret things like that. The way i see that.... if someone has a busy life and can't moderate their communiity, then there will be some sort of "help desk" much like in game, where you can contact a game master and have them do things that are out of your control.
And as for severe violations, don't go around bragging about MPK, using third party programs etc... after all SE is designing these boards and hosting them to us for free, and if you start abusing them by gloating on how you constantly violate their ToS... yeah they will get pissed off.
RE: cool beans
# Jun 15 2006 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
Aggreed, that is what I was thinking when I saw that little part about "We" getting involved if things get outa hand.

I have nothing to fear from SE, but I still don't like that fact that we are going to have to watch what we talk about >.<. This will be good but I think we should still keep our individual sites so that we can talk about what ever whenever and about who ever.
RE: cool beans
# Jun 10 2006 at 12:17 AM Rating: Decent
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In the first Screen Shot, Message Board Manager, two-thirds down or so ir red text. Only 10 new active threads at a time. Only 50 0ld threads will be saved, and any after that will automatically be deleted. So in total you could have 60 threads "active" at a time, and any more than that would automatically delete the oldest thread. While this would work for small linkshells, larger ones will shy away from this for that fact alone. But like other people have said on the official thread for this topic, it would also make a great recruitment tool for Linkshells.
SE
# Jun 09 2006 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
no, not unless you openly state that you mod ffxi, use a windower blah blah.

I dont understand it though, if SE tries to do something good for the FFXI community you all immediatly start thinking its a trap, a way to catch people out 'like bait on a string'.

I personally think SE is trying to creat a closer knit community.
RE: SE
# Jun 09 2006 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
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If you are referring to my comment, I only meant that if it was something of that nature, it's not a very good attempt, and only those of lower IQ's would probably get caught. I'm not saying it is, and I still think it's a good idea with bad limitations.

In the end, from what I'm getting out of this, it seems like more of an attempt to have multiple linkshells communicate with each other. They mention something of the sort in there. That would be the unique flavor this addition would have.

Although, all you need is one person to be a jerk, and flood the forum with stupid topics, deleting everyone elses. Hopefully there will be more options than "Can other people post here or not."

It would be nice to see ways to add Linkshells to a list, and then those linkshells would be allowed to post in your forums. Maybe ways to have "Guest Linkshells" be able to post on a separate guest forum, to kind of get used to them, but they can't post in your main forum area. Some straight up chat functions would be nice too, but maybe that's getting too far ahead? I just think it would be odd to talk with your buddies in game but not out of game, with the same linkshell concept.
Modders
# Jun 09 2006 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
You think those ppl who mod FFXI will be caught if they used this?
Way Cool
# Jun 09 2006 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
This may seem silly .. OMG I want it now

Edited, Fri Jun 9 10:48:09 2006
meh
# Jun 09 2006 at 9:42 AM Rating: Default
This won't be used much by any serious linkshells. It's easy as hell to set up your own PHP-based message board without all the limits and "Big Brother" watching you. I don't know of any HNM shells that don't have their own web space and forums.
RE: meh
# Jun 13 2006 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
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"Big Brother"?!? LMAO!! You guys crack me up. If you're not doing anything wrong, what are you afraid of?

/em rolls eyes
RE: meh
# Jun 09 2006 at 12:30 PM Rating: Good
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true. I'm in a casual linkshell and we have our own site and forums up, but this will really help for the less knowledgable and for the people who don't have to time to keep boards up and running and the like.
Oh boy...
# Jun 09 2006 at 8:33 AM Rating: Default
Oh boy, SE you better not drop the ball on this one. This is a good idea, but SE has been known to fumble every good catch they've made.
Meh?
# Jun 09 2006 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Tie a piece of meat on a string and see how many bad eggs you can catch.

All I know is most Linkshells already have websites, and the limitations shown in the images make me kinda skeptical. 50 threads maximum? Kinda limiting, especially if you have a good sized Ls that likes to jibber jabber too much. "Leaving Footprints." Yeah, footprints that dissapear once you take 50 steps or more c.C

Hopefully they have(Or Add) a way to save certain threads.

Edited, Fri Jun 9 07:19:12 2006
Cost of Censorship
# Jun 09 2006 at 6:42 AM Rating: Default
"However, in cases where moderation hasn't been done properly or the moderators cannot be contacted for a while, Game Masters may take appropriate action, such as temporarily suspending that Linkshell Community site. Also, because the Linkshell Community is strongly linked to in-game worlds, some penalties may apply to PlayOnline accounts if severe violations are detected. This should not affect communication, but in case of problems caused by non-real-time communication, each linkshell owner's moderation is needed for the Linkshell Community to run smoothly. We're hoping that lots of players and linkshells will use the Linkshell Community beta service while taking this into account."

Use at your own risk everyone. Anything stated here is reviewable by SE and applicable to the end user agreement. Thus, you write it & they say it violates, your history.
kool
# Jun 09 2006 at 5:45 AM Rating: Good
Hey this is pretty cool. My linkshell currently uses guildportal.com but I haven't checked that website in a while and this seems like a more functional alternative.
Pricing?
# Jun 09 2006 at 5:43 AM Rating: Default
Does new service come with a price tag once the beta is done?... Hmmm... I wonder. O.o

RE: Pricing?
# Jun 09 2006 at 6:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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"the beta service and future official service will be free to use"
RE: Pricing?
# Jun 09 2006 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
Sorry but I'll stick to using my own forum with moderators and Admins I can trust, I have no desire to have any of my personal thoughts or posts mis-interpeded by faceless patrols watching from afar.
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