Fighter's Lorica  

i am war lvl 22 and i love the af armor for me i can wait to have a party at whitegate for me i think war kick butt on great axe i already got my weapon skill to 73 and i love sturwind.

I am only a brd. Keep this in mind. I have never seen a warrior past Crawler's nest tank(hold hate no pealz). I have seent hem try and the result is downtime even with refresher(me). As merit pts go.. I never make a pt with only a war tanking. Of course 5wars and a brd was my favorite set up ever but none of them can hold hate off eachother. Mnks rngs and blm own wars after crawlers maybe even before if you have some decent members in your pt. im sorry i cant say that i know personally about tanking as war, but i have plenty of time sitting casting ballads over and over for mages with no mp to see that wars are no tanks.

I'll start by saying that outside of the dunes and the jungles.... Warriors generally don't make real good tanks. Paladin's and Ninja's are the ideal tanks, but that doesn't mean a Warrior can't do it.... and do it effectively too. Warrior are best as DD, whether it's war/nin with Axes or war/thf, /sam, even /drg with a Great Axe. But a war/nin can tank effectively, especially if there's another war/nin in the party to share the work load. As far as tanking solo goes, it takes a skilled player and a good group of skilled players working together to make it happen. Stun is your best friend when tanking solo, but it does you no good if your stunner can't time his casting properly. I've tanked solo as WAR/NIN and it can be either a piece of cake or a complete disaster. Basically you need a mob no higher than VT that doesn't double attack, and preferably doesn't have an ability that can wipe out all your shadows at once. A mob that attacks too fast is also a bad idea, but in the right area against the right mob you can chain xp just as easily as if you had a paladin or ninja tank. Enmity is also very important, without it your other DD in the party will be doing the tanking. Unfortunately a warrior is very limited in the number of abilities it has to grab hate and keep it. We're pretty much limited to Provoke, Warcry (which has a very long timer and is really just an emergency hate generator when tanking), and the damage we inflict. Without enmity+ gear.... solo tanking as warrior just can't be done. This is where the AF comes into play... a total of enmity +15 (i think that's right anyway) if you're wearing all of it, which isn't entirely necessary. A solo warrior tank is not something you see everyday... and again it's not the best option as tank, but it can be done with fantastic results if played properly with the proper support. Warriors are best suited as DD, and that's what i perfer to do.... i guess i just get tired of hearing people say that it can't be done when i've done it myself on more than one occasion. And if you're a warrior and you can't at the very least back-up tank in an emergency situation... then do us all a favor and pick a new job.

yeah i agree...war tnaks were fine for valkrum dunes...not for lvl 60 parties...waste of MP

Who ever says WAR's cant tank is a ****** I tanked Soldier Crawlers in CN as WAR/NIN and with 2 other pt's to contend with we we're droppin crawlers faster than the other pt's I nvr got below yellow and we only had to stop once for MP when our DRG died cause he wanted to try and to be first voke for SATA >.< (that didn't go far since even after he voked my dmg pulled hate right off him) so yes we can tank as WAR/NIN if you know what your doin.

I wouldn't say a Haubergeon is directly better. Think about, +5 Str & +5 Dex is great. and so is +10 Acc & +10 Att. But how often does a Warror take hate without his AF anyway? A lot. And how many times to War's die when a tank can't get hate back? -5 Agi and -10 Eva do them no favours in that situation, which is why with +5 Vit +HP, better Def and +10 Fire resistance actually help a Warrior out. If you have decent other gear you wont miss the +10 Acc to be honest, and Str can be got off just about anything aswell.

Coupled with the huge factor that a Haubergeon is roughly 4mil on Ifrit, usually more and the Lorica is free, i know what i'll be wearing when my Warrior hits 60.

Drg Af = Resembles the armor of Kain in FFIV (II US) and possibly someone elses in an earlier FF if there was a drg earlier. But Kain's armor was purple-ish. I think, been awhile since I've played that one, lol.

I am a 73mnk/37war so i have had a few parties with just about every job out there save bst(few bcnm's or quests is it) and i have noticed something. Since level 60 i have never seen a war/anything successfully tank, ever, even back up tank. I have literally been in this party Pld/war, war/nin, mnk/war(me duh), whm/blm, blm/rdm, rdm/blm, and when that pld went down guess who tanked. Your first guess would be the war/nin considering we were level 72-73 but no it was me. Reasons, even with the +enmity most wars,(preparing for flame) nay most jobs frontline melee cannot deal out the amount of damage or hate gaining skills to keep hate off a mnk with great gear(SH peacock charm snipersx2 CC's etc.). Now of course this is after the update i know but all that tells me is that a) the war had no tanking equips or b) that they are just not suited. Now on the defense of wars everywhere i have not met a nin/war that can keep hate from me since that update either. I just think its sad that the original tank in the game can't keep hate off a mnk at level 73 and that a mnk has to tank a Hobgoblin Angler because the War/nin would get eaten. Ok now on to the af i am sorry war but your af is not that cool...it almost looks like galka rse in the low 30's but red. Now mnk af is nothing to ****** over but i still think they coulda made it look a lil bet better. Most of the AF's are supposed to be based off of chars from old games Mainly FFT(Final Fantasy Tactics) and older FF games. I am not sure about this, case in point is DRG af. Whos hairbrained idea was it to make them purple...looks like Barney on crack...but if you look at the drg in FFT they wear light blue armor and a red sash or whatever that thing is. No place do you see purple. I am merely making a point. We can't all be as lucky as the SAM and get cool looking af. Back to tanking the FACT is that anyone with nin/ or /nin can't keep hate off a good dd or else that dd becomes the main tank. No DD likes turning around and getting hit in the back just so that the nin or war/nin can regain hate. Also in case someone gets smart about it nin/war with thf sata doesn't work either cuz the fact of the matter is mnk with berserk focus and dodge on hits for about 40-60 per hit (roughly been a while) and the nin trying to keep hate with defender for that odd hit that he takes only hits for about 10 add it up i am gonna get it eventually and the only way to keep it on him is to steal it and let the sata go off and then i take it back and have to wait for sata to reset. Also war can be used in MANY more ways than war/nin. I have seen a war/thf do 2200 damage with his 2hr sata aggressor berserk warcry and whatever. So think about this ppl, this job is very versitile where as most are very narrow. Use it to your best have thf mnk nin and whatever else leveled to 37 in case you find that certain parties may need you as one more than another. And then there is the "But war/nin rocks in ballista!" i have heard time and again that at level 70+ unless you are a ballista only player no frontline dd can stand against a monk. If you really wanna be that good at ballista purely go thru the hell that it is to be a mnk from 50-60 and then you can say you rock. Sorry but the simple fact is that Raging Fists rules Utsusemi Ichi and Asuran Fists rules Utsusemi Ni. So no more excuses and BS reasons.

i like war cause it can dish out a beating and take a beating also, unlike pld which can't hit for jack or drk which crumbles in a few hits. so in that balance we find a great power unfortunatly most people see that balance as the greatest weakness. because we don't fit into one role, dd or tank, we aren't given as much love as the others and are called average. sad really :(

the .. AF dose look ... odd... its a bit draft in the ice areas but it is .. metal so your freezingyer nads off reguardless. i got this when i was 52 hit 60 reciently and i wear it most of the times unless told not to then im wearing either my war 50 JSE armor <emity +2 hp+32 yes please> or my R.K. body

I think that leveling Warrior is a great challenge, the first and the main job for every newbie around vanadiel.
This armor is a good reward for the big effort

its enmity+8 because the monster cant stand to look at it it and feals it must kill the offender and put them 6 feet under

+8 emnity....altogether that's 15 emnity.