+8
Finaly got it after over 2 years. I killed BB once with it then tried to trade when i first got the knife and got nothing. I tried on every other BB fight but never had any luck.
The time I got it I killed BB again with the same knife. Then fumbled around to get the knife into my inventory to trade (took me some time to do that while running to the ???, maybe 6-8 seconds till trade) and got it.
A Brd was also trying right after BB was killed and didn't get it.
Maybe it's really only luck but I think you might have to kill BB with it once to be able to get the knife. For the trading it doesn't seem to have to be right after BB was killed.
Maybe it works like the Kirin teleport and you got to trade it at the right time?
EDIT: btw Dnc can use this knife too ^^
Edited, Jan 7th 2008 6:35pm by RidingBean
Bartholomew's Knife
 | Submit a correction Found in Areas:Notes: Obtained by trading a Buccaneer's Knife to the ??? in Ve'Lugannon Palace. |
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Got mine today 1/1. I was on rdm/drk so a friend stole from BB I traded and got it in one go!^^
38 posts
So, what if I traded first time and got nothing, do I have to steal it again? or can I give it another try with the same knife? Thank you.
Had this same Buccaneer's Knife for over a year.
Finally transformed to Bartholomew's tonight, first trade attempt after killing BB with it. I had also tried to trade before we fought and got nothing.
4/8/1020 Earthday
Waxing Gibbous 79%
For some reason, I thought this knife would kill BB as well. It doesn't.
Naturally, even with the +2 steal, I missed my attempt at another Bucc Knife.
Edited, Apr 17th 2007 10:42pm by Turnerbrown
Finally transformed to Bartholomew's tonight, first trade attempt after killing BB with it. I had also tried to trade before we fought and got nothing.
4/8/1020 Earthday
Waxing Gibbous 79%
For some reason, I thought this knife would kill BB as well. It doesn't.
Naturally, even with the +2 steal, I missed my attempt at another Bucc Knife.
Edited, Apr 17th 2007 10:42pm by Turnerbrown
25 posts
I got my knife today. SAM/THF stole the knife and gave it to one of our NINs. NIN made the kill, and gave me it (a SMN, but I have several jobs at 75 that can use it so before anyone frets... it's going to use). This was probably my 7th attempt -- that is, 7th knife -- trying to transform it, and it finally worked. So I guess it doesn't really matter who makes the kill or anything, just that it either transforms on the first trade or won't transform, period.
...or perhaps, it's the luck of the guy with the glowing blue rat.
...or perhaps, it's the luck of the guy with the glowing blue rat.
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weeeee! puppetmasters can use this knife too I think.
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Well the whole you have to trade with in 15 seconds is wrong or I got lucky. I traded the knife to the ??? around 1 minute after we killed BB on my 1st try and got knife. Also I have never failed a steal and I only have Brt knife with + steal. Well that is how I got it the knife.
After 2 LS's and about 15 kills of BB we finally got the damn knife. Our THF about crapped himself. Steal+2, yay.
(Melee is so boring...)
(Melee is so boring...)
Can I wait for some other ppl to kill BB and trade my knife to the ???? Or do I have to be in the party/alliance to get bartolomew's knife? thank you. Killed him 2x today, but didn't know about the 15sec time limit. ><
Ok, I got my bart knife today after at least 10 trys. thought I'd come here and confirm a few things.
First, I got my knife with an old Buccaneer's knife, that I had already killed BB with one run before.
I tried trading it before the fight and nothing, after the fight (I made final blow) I tried again and got the messege I cannot obtain the bart knife, sort your inventory.
Dropped a crystal and traded again and it worked.
Note I did trade within 15 seconds and I did not read the text by checking the ??? before the trade.
Hope this helps clear up a couple things, all in all I think its pretty random.
First, I got my knife with an old Buccaneer's knife, that I had already killed BB with one run before.
I tried trading it before the fight and nothing, after the fight (I made final blow) I tried again and got the messege I cannot obtain the bart knife, sort your inventory.
Dropped a crystal and traded again and it worked.
Note I did trade within 15 seconds and I did not read the text by checking the ??? before the trade.
Hope this helps clear up a couple things, all in all I think its pretty random.
ok, i just got this knife like 2 hours ago, and i figured i'd clear up and misconceptions about it. first off, the way u get it is by trading the buccaneer's knife to a ??? on the opposite side of the room that u pop the weapon. u obtain the bucaneers knife by stealing it from the weapon, and this weapon can only be killed with this knife. during the fight, the add. effect of buccaneers knife is 100%, sadly, the bart.'s knife isnt =( after u kill the weapon, u have to trade the knife to the ??? in less then 15 seconds, it has NOTHING to do with luck, merely timing.
the fight for my HNMLS was fun, i stole knife and died from AoE, raised, died again from damn AoE (he SPAMS AoE), melee got him to 1%, raised me, i sneak attacked to finish him. fled back to ??? hit macro to unequip dagger and traded it about 6 seconds after death and obtained knife.
while the knife's add. affect isnt as often as the buccaneers, is a LOT more powerful, after the fight i went to go fight sum flamingos and add. effect was hitting for 30-40 dmg, it was pretty friggin sweet. imma try it in EXP pt tomorrow.
the fight for my HNMLS was fun, i stole knife and died from AoE, raised, died again from damn AoE (he SPAMS AoE), melee got him to 1%, raised me, i sneak attacked to finish him. fled back to ??? hit macro to unequip dagger and traded it about 6 seconds after death and obtained knife.
while the knife's add. affect isnt as often as the buccaneers, is a LOT more powerful, after the fight i went to go fight sum flamingos and add. effect was hitting for 30-40 dmg, it was pretty friggin sweet. imma try it in EXP pt tomorrow.
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u have to trade the knife to the ??? in less then 15 seconds, it has NOTHING to do with luck, merely timing.
this is actually untrue. i fought BB right next to the other ??? so we didnt have to clear the room. i have a macro that basically equips a different dagger and trades the buccaneer with <st> i tab over, hit enter, nothing. about 2 seconds after death... sorry =\
also sat there n spammed trade on it for 10 minutes or so while the other weapons were respawning, still nothing
O.o
And what would be the additional effect of Buccaneers Knife?
And what would be the additional effect of Buccaneers Knife?
From what ive gathered.
Find ??? to obtain a curtana.
Find Brigandish Blades pop ???
Trade Curtana to pop Brigandish Blade.
Steal Bucaneers Knife
Kill Brigandish Blade with the Bucaneers Knife.
Trade Bucaneers Knife to Brigandish Blade ??? for a small chance of it upgrading to a Bartholomews Knife.
ONLY BUCANEERS KNIFE CAN KILL BRIGANDISH BLADE.
If you have stolen and transformed the Knife before BB is dead you must either zone and let BB de-pop or use a previously Obtained Bucaneers Knife to kill BB.
Edited, Mon Dec 26 01:30:40 2005
Find ??? to obtain a curtana.
Find Brigandish Blades pop ???
Trade Curtana to pop Brigandish Blade.
Steal Bucaneers Knife
Kill Brigandish Blade with the Bucaneers Knife.
Trade Bucaneers Knife to Brigandish Blade ??? for a small chance of it upgrading to a Bartholomews Knife.
ONLY BUCANEERS KNIFE CAN KILL BRIGANDISH BLADE.
If you have stolen and transformed the Knife before BB is dead you must either zone and let BB de-pop or use a previously Obtained Bucaneers Knife to kill BB.
Edited, Mon Dec 26 01:30:40 2005
So do you have to kill BB before you can trade it to the ???. I was in an HNMLS and never got the chance to be the one to deliver the final blow, but I have the Bucc. Knife. This would suck royally if I had to find another HNMLS just to kill it and get the Bart. Knife.
Lol, there's a chance?
I killed BB a few weeks back with my ex-ls and traded the knife to the ??? and got Bart's knife np.
If it was luck then where was it for Sozu then? ><
Oh well, I fell in love with this knife so much I let my good thf friend use my Blau Dolch and is using this for main now ^^. Good stuff.
I killed BB a few weeks back with my ex-ls and traded the knife to the ??? and got Bart's knife np.
If it was luck then where was it for Sozu then? ><
Oh well, I fell in love with this knife so much I let my good thf friend use my Blau Dolch and is using this for main now ^^. Good stuff.
Ninja > Pirates.
Hiyah!
Hiyah!
Ninjas suck, Pirates > all
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Here's how I go mine:
Went 1/6 on him. On the try I got it, I did not pop BB. I failed steal, a DRK stole it, gave me the knife, I killed BB. Afterwards, I ran over, traded the knife, first trade I got "The Buccannear's knife begins to change shape. Obtained: Bartholomew's Knife." It was 62% earthsday around 17:00 or so game time, if anyone is wondering. It seems to me and other THFs I talked to, it's just chance. Steal the knife, trade, and hope you get the knife. If not, well, try again next time.
Went 1/6 on him. On the try I got it, I did not pop BB. I failed steal, a DRK stole it, gave me the knife, I killed BB. Afterwards, I ran over, traded the knife, first trade I got "The Buccannear's knife begins to change shape. Obtained: Bartholomew's Knife." It was 62% earthsday around 17:00 or so game time, if anyone is wondering. It seems to me and other THFs I talked to, it's just chance. Steal the knife, trade, and hope you get the knife. If not, well, try again next time.
But this is a tribute to the pirate in FF1 where you get your ship from...
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/729735/
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I'm 0/16 on this with 16 different bucc knives. I think it is all luck when trading it. I've heard chances are better if you trade the curtana, successfully steal the bucc knife, and kill BB with sata but I was 0/3 last night with that strategy. Chances of stealing the knife are usually good, I have failed about 5-7 times.
I've killed BB at least 15 times with my LS and I've never failed the steal; also never seen any thf not get the knife on the first try. Is it possible that you're taking longer than the time limit?
Scholar
46 posts
Okay, here's a question. Since this knife is an upgrade to the Buccaneer's Knife, can it be used to kill BB as well, or is the Buccaneer's Knife the only weapon that can?
Scholar
20 posts
I got Bartholomew's knife under the impression it would kill BB just like buc knife. I'd been told ppl from my LS a while ago had used bartholomew knife to kill it... anyhow...
Long story short, it didnt work.
Had to have our nin sit there and tank BB for 25 minutes while someone else warped back to get a buc knife from mog safe.
The water damage was proc'ing for 0's. Maybe there's a trick. Maybe hafta be thief, I dont know. I was using it on ranger. Either way, it didnt kill BB.
Long story short, it didnt work.
Had to have our nin sit there and tank BB for 25 minutes while someone else warped back to get a buc knife from mog safe.
The water damage was proc'ing for 0's. Maybe there's a trick. Maybe hafta be thief, I dont know. I was using it on ranger. Either way, it didnt kill BB.
It's gotta be the Buc. Knife.
I've had a rng do it with a Buc Knife; I myself have never been able to do it with a brt knife.
I've had a rng do it with a Buc Knife; I myself have never been able to do it with a brt knife.
I got the dagger on my second try.
I simply planned ahead by making 2 macros.
One macro to unequip the Buccaneer Knife:
/equip main "Hoplites Harpe"
One macro to trade the Buccaneer's Knife to the ??? after I killed BB:
/item "Buccaneer's Knife" <t>
After killing BB I simply hit my unequip macro, targetted the ??? and spammed my trade macro. Somewhere amid my spam error messages I got the message:
The Buccaneer's Knife begins to change shape.
Obtained: Bartholomew's Knife.
I simply planned ahead by making 2 macros.
One macro to unequip the Buccaneer Knife:
/equip main "Hoplites Harpe"
One macro to trade the Buccaneer's Knife to the ??? after I killed BB:
/item "Buccaneer's Knife" <t>
After killing BB I simply hit my unequip macro, targetted the ??? and spammed my trade macro. Somewhere amid my spam error messages I got the message:
The Buccaneer's Knife begins to change shape.
Obtained: Bartholomew's Knife.
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on your second try
did you pop the the NM with the Curtana?
did you keep the Bucanneer Knife from your first kill or resteal the knife?
and finally, you trade the knife without check the ??? ?
thanx for answer, coz im mad for not getting this knife after 2 tries.
did you pop the the NM with the Curtana?
did you keep the Bucanneer Knife from your first kill or resteal the knife?
and finally, you trade the knife without check the ??? ?
thanx for answer, coz im mad for not getting this knife after 2 tries.
I did not pop the NM.
I kept the Bucanneer Knife from my first kill.
I did not check the ??? before I traded the knife.
I simply stole the knife, got the final kill, then used my macros to trade as fast as possible.
I kept the Bucanneer Knife from my first kill.
I did not check the ??? before I traded the knife.
I simply stole the knife, got the final kill, then used my macros to trade as fast as possible.
i dont understand, is the steal very difficult that you need to try multiple times ?
also does the ??? fade away so quickly that you need a macro ?
maybe someone else has the same questions in mind & you would be helping others too.
thanks for the help, !
also does the ??? fade away so quickly that you need a macro ?
maybe someone else has the same questions in mind & you would be helping others too.
thanks for the help, !
Steal is very easy for a drk or thf with full AF
the reason everyone hauls *** to the ??? is because if u do not trade it after 15 seconds from the death of BB, u dont get knife XD
the reason everyone hauls *** to the ??? is because if u do not trade it after 15 seconds from the death of BB, u dont get knife XD
Ok Heres how to get the knife:
First you have to be able to Equip the Buccaneer's Knife and Kill Brandishing Blade with it.
After the fighe Go tto the ??? at the front of the room and examine it with the Buccaneer's Knife still equiped.
Read the story.
Unequip the Buccaneer's Knife and trade it to the same ???.
Works every Time.
Congrats on your shiney new Buccaneer's Knife!!
First you have to be able to Equip the Buccaneer's Knife and Kill Brandishing Blade with it.
After the fighe Go tto the ??? at the front of the room and examine it with the Buccaneer's Knife still equiped.
Read the story.
Unequip the Buccaneer's Knife and trade it to the same ???.
Works every Time.
Congrats on your shiney new Buccaneer's Knife!!
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didnt work for me
I got this the first time I ever killed BB. I didn not pop him, I did not get the kill on him. I did steal the knife from him; traded it to a rng (I was only level 70 at the time) Rng killed him, I got the knife back from the rng, ran the the ??? and traded it. Got my knife.
This didnt work for me ; ;
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Quote:
The reason this knife is good, is the extra water effect does 60-69 regardless of mobs str. So if bartholomews does 80 dmg on a sauromogue skink, but 2 dmg on Aura statues, the water will still do 60-69. Pretty nice, the other stats are decent as well.
On every other "additional effect" weapon I've seen "additional effect" actually means "once in a blue moon" It's other stats are below average save for the +2 Steal and that's only good for farming. Unless the additional effect goes off a lot (as in "more often than not") I can't imagine using this for anything except farming coins.
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I thought of it first:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
Additional affect on Acid/bloody/sleep bolts goes off almost every time unless the mob is resistant to the status affect. Most rare weps with additional effects that i have seen go off a lot more often then regular ones, like nadrs for example poisons the mob usually within a few hits.
It procs a hell of a lot.
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I got the knife yesterday, I killed 3 BB's with the same knife. I waited about 20-25 seconds after a BB kill to trade my knife the time I got it, so duration between the kill and the trade is not extremely important. I think it may require X amount of BB's killed, traded within X time, and other randomy factors. The only way to realy get it is to trade each time after you kill BB, seems the best way.
The reason this knife is good, is the extra water effect does 60-69 regardless of mobs str. So if bartholomews does 80 dmg on a sauromogue skink, but 2 dmg on Aura statues, the water will still do 60-69. Pretty nice, the other stats are decent as well.
The reason this knife is good, is the extra water effect does 60-69 regardless of mobs str. So if bartholomews does 80 dmg on a sauromogue skink, but 2 dmg on Aura statues, the water will still do 60-69. Pretty nice, the other stats are decent as well.
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