Paper Knife
Paper Knife
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what a name....paper knife....makes it sound flimsy... wooden sword {You can have this.}
Scholar
21 posts
Hmm I'm 30 atm, I plan on making this bad boy mine^^ my shell buster from club upping on blm is in ym mog house shell busters are 2-4k on Pandy xD
I just SOLOED this quest for my brd.
First off. I went as a bst 58 after getting the key item as brd. I summoned Tros no problem. Battle took 3 mins. Used a Fungar Jug pet and just wasted the NM. I took less than 100 damage from aoe, and pet was not even a down a quater of its life. I am sure any Job could solo this 55+ and with the brd to help I am sure you could go 50.
Thats my 2 cents worth! Take it or leave it!
Edited, Jul 11th 2006 at 10:45am EDT by GalkaPriest
First off. I went as a bst 58 after getting the key item as brd. I summoned Tros no problem. Battle took 3 mins. Used a Fungar Jug pet and just wasted the NM. I took less than 100 damage from aoe, and pet was not even a down a quater of its life. I am sure any Job could solo this 55+ and with the brd to help I am sure you could go 50.
Thats my 2 cents worth! Take it or leave it!
Edited, Jul 11th 2006 at 10:45am EDT by GalkaPriest
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Ok, Paper knife does a fair amount of Damage as far as daggers go but nothing special. It also has +2 AGI and CHR. Agi gives < 1 Evasion so no biggie there, and CHR+2 Isnt the best in the world. It is very rare to see a Resist at levels below 55. So this knife is not that fantastic.
KillingIfrit.com states that this knife has another purpose, "sing effectve rises". I just got this knife and have done one test sofar. Tried a minne with then w/o the knife equipped. I also had Harp +1 equipped. There was no difference in the results.
I am wondering where this information came from or if it is true. If anyone has more info on this stat, please post here. Thanks
PS: Choosing a Weapon varies on what you are doing in a party, at lvl 40, If you are meleeing, use a sword/dagger with Elegent shield (or another lvl 30 one.) If you are having problems with resists, which i really doubt you have at that level, Use a Monster Signa or a Chanters Staff. I reccommed Chanter's because of the Singing Skill + that boosts songs potency. Using a Staff also allows you to focus your other equip on other things besides CHR. Also consider using macros to swich your weapon. (^o^)_b
KillingIfrit.com states that this knife has another purpose, "sing effectve rises". I just got this knife and have done one test sofar. Tried a minne with then w/o the knife equipped. I also had Harp +1 equipped. There was no difference in the results.
I am wondering where this information came from or if it is true. If anyone has more info on this stat, please post here. Thanks
PS: Choosing a Weapon varies on what you are doing in a party, at lvl 40, If you are meleeing, use a sword/dagger with Elegent shield (or another lvl 30 one.) If you are having problems with resists, which i really doubt you have at that level, Use a Monster Signa or a Chanters Staff. I reccommed Chanter's because of the Singing Skill + that boosts songs potency. Using a Staff also allows you to focus your other equip on other things besides CHR. Also consider using macros to swich your weapon. (^o^)_b
33 posts
that pic is totally wrong that is no paper knife -.-
my brd
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?110549
my brd
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?110549
CrazyFantasyBoy wrote:
that pic is totally wrong that is no paper knife -.-
my brd
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?110549
my brd
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?110549
That is what the knife looks like, I just got mine today you stupid idiot. RATE DOWN!
~Vas
16 posts
I got this knife the other day. I thought it would look really gay with the picture of it on all of the websites. This is the real pic and it looks awesome. Too bad its not the greatest. :(
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Just soloed this as a 67 thf/nin. Was a pretty quick fight, he only actually hit me twice, and most of his damage came from his special attacks rather than waterga 2. I had +15 resistance to water and -2% magic damage taken and was only getting hit for like 33 by waterga 2, but for like 150 by whirlwind and tentacle. Couldn't keep shadows up so nin stub was kind of pointless, he spams aoe but high evasion helps massivly. I spammed bloody bolts and was able to drain 30-60 per hit then ws which was better than hitting him for 20 per hit. Ended the fight w/ about half hp, but was overall an easy fight. As a mithra brd i have to say ill stick w/ signa b/c even with +21 chr and capped skills i get resists when im the lowest one in the pt, and id rather have the +40 mp off mp rings and use signa then have +chr rings and use a dagger. *tosses the dagger in storage*
8 posts
What gear is this BRD wearing?
this bard is wearing HUME Race specific armor!
12 posts
And a Noble's Ribbion (chr +3).
Edited, Thu Jan 12 20:32:17 2006
Edited, Thu Jan 12 20:32:17 2006
It looks like she might be wearing Garish Mitts if thats what they are called, either way.
The Garish set looks like the Seer's set but red.
The Garish set looks like the Seer's set but red.
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Yes. I soloed it as a 54 BST. That means, no one inside or outside my party (Wasn't in one, and was only one in the zone) helped me at all.
It took an hour of kiting and some trial and error (Tros has some nifty little suprises for the cocky person looking to solo him).
I had to deal with the fact CourierCarrie took full damage on Waterga 2 and enwater (Enwater did like 20+100-250 to both me and CourierCarrie) and I didn't bring and pet food (I had 40 stacks of pet food zeta I synthed for profits in my MH, and shoulda brought some).
I had to kite Tros w/o losing hate and allowing him to go back to his spawn position and regen to 100%. The first few CC's (First three) all died relatively fast, but each took about 1/3 his hp away.
I eventually was able to find some "eyes" and higher level scorpions that I could throw at Tros (The ooze I tossed at him one time was one-shotted) while wiating on Call Beast recast. Anyway, I finally did it with 3 more CC and a total of an hour's time...
Looking at some of the posts above, I'm the lowest lvl of any job to solo him? I feel sooo much better about my skills as a BST after soloing Tros...
It took an hour of kiting and some trial and error (Tros has some nifty little suprises for the cocky person looking to solo him).
I had to deal with the fact CourierCarrie took full damage on Waterga 2 and enwater (Enwater did like 20+100-250 to both me and CourierCarrie) and I didn't bring and pet food (I had 40 stacks of pet food zeta I synthed for profits in my MH, and shoulda brought some).
I had to kite Tros w/o losing hate and allowing him to go back to his spawn position and regen to 100%. The first few CC's (First three) all died relatively fast, but each took about 1/3 his hp away.
I eventually was able to find some "eyes" and higher level scorpions that I could throw at Tros (The ooze I tossed at him one time was one-shotted) while wiating on Call Beast recast. Anyway, I finally did it with 3 more CC and a total of an hour's time...
Looking at some of the posts above, I'm the lowest lvl of any job to solo him? I feel sooo much better about my skills as a BST after soloing Tros...
He soloed it (RNG73/NIN36) but I had to Divine Seal + Cure II him cuz he would have died (he even used a gun)
Edited, Tue Aug 30 17:28:06 2005
Edited, Tue Aug 30 17:28:06 2005
Then he sucked.
Barrage, Slug Shot, Win.
Barrage, Slug Shot, Win.
5 posts
k if u want to just barely scrape by this quest by the scruff of the neck.... this is what i did
lv 45bard (deleveld after first fight = / and killed him as lv 44) and a 50ranger and 49 whm.
we lost the first fight (by a sliver) from a waterga and won the second one easier (we prepared better, i thauight it would be easy fight, stupid me = /) water carol and Paeon 3 or 4 if u have it ^^ and we had 3 dancing wepons on us (poped halfway thru fight) so horde lullybye worked fairly well too ^^
lv 45bard (deleveld after first fight = / and killed him as lv 44) and a 50ranger and 49 whm.
we lost the first fight (by a sliver) from a waterga and won the second one easier (we prepared better, i thauight it would be easy fight, stupid me = /) water carol and Paeon 3 or 4 if u have it ^^ and we had 3 dancing wepons on us (poped halfway thru fight) so horde lullybye worked fairly well too ^^
20 posts
How is this quest repeatable exactly? It's an AF quest...
Scholar
37 posts
All af quests are repeatable, there's an npc in Jeuno I believe that'll erase your memory of completing af quests... mainly for those who may have thrown away AF before the npcs that store sets of AF armour came along.
My friend, a level 50 Bard, and me, a level 40 Bard, both needed this knife.
So, we got set to go there, and we realized "Hey... we're Bards. We'll suck alone."
So.... we got a level 75 Black Mage who was very generous and bored to come and almost completely solo Tros. Thunder IV -> Thunder III, it died.
I didn't care about how cheap it was, I had to log off soon and I wanted m'damn knife.
Oh, and for those that are curious, this may or may not seem obvious, but if you have two Bards, only one needs to click the Waters of Oblivion at the start and you only have to fight Tros once.
So, we got set to go there, and we realized "Hey... we're Bards. We'll suck alone."
So.... we got a level 75 Black Mage who was very generous and bored to come and almost completely solo Tros. Thunder IV -> Thunder III, it died.
I didn't care about how cheap it was, I had to log off soon and I wanted m'damn knife.
Oh, and for those that are curious, this may or may not seem obvious, but if you have two Bards, only one needs to click the Waters of Oblivion at the start and you only have to fight Tros once.
Damn double posting >_>
Edited, Sun Jul 17 21:23:26 2005
Edited, Sun Jul 17 21:23:26 2005
That picture looks exactly like me....same equipment and haircolor exactly...
Took only 3 of us and 5 minutes of my time, aside from the short trip there.
57 WAR/MNK
60 WHM/BLM
40 BRD/WHM
Cleared weapons then buffed/rested. Clicked the "Waters of Oblivion", NM spawned but didn't have any time to attack me before WAR voked it. Only dmg I took was because of the AOE which wasn't all too potent due to Barwatera and Water Carol up. Sung a few songs and threw out a heal or two, but that was it. GL everyone in obtaining your Paper Knife.
57 WAR/MNK
60 WHM/BLM
40 BRD/WHM
Cleared weapons then buffed/rested. Clicked the "Waters of Oblivion", NM spawned but didn't have any time to attack me before WAR voked it. Only dmg I took was because of the AOE which wasn't all too potent due to Barwatera and Water Carol up. Sung a few songs and threw out a heal or two, but that was it. GL everyone in obtaining your Paper Knife.
5 posts
I am the 57War that tanked this NM, in case you're wondering how the fight worked out from my end. I used my solo set up, basically I put on a nomad's mantle two dodge earrings and weild the long boomerang. Anything from taking any damage at all. If it can't hit me, it can't hurt me right. I had forgotten to take the Emp.Hairpin with me though. I asked for an agility song and ate a Bream Sushi (a cheap way to greaten accuracy and increase vitality too). The second I saw it in the waters of oblivion (nice name), I provoked it. Not going to let it hit Enixsoft. ;)
AoE were the only complications during this fight, he uses it quite frequently. Enixsoft had low HP about the same time the weapons (which I had cleared out before he and Drizzdourden got here) appeared back. By that time Drizzt was resting and took care of the aggro while I finished off the NM.
I enjoyed the battle, but and I greatly suggest a healer. I went in the orange roughly 5 times and saw damage inflicted on me for over 100 (when he hit). Hope this gives you a taste of what the NM fight is like.
Edited, Wed Apr 27 11:11:44 2005
AoE were the only complications during this fight, he uses it quite frequently. Enixsoft had low HP about the same time the weapons (which I had cleared out before he and Drizzdourden got here) appeared back. By that time Drizzt was resting and took care of the aggro while I finished off the NM.
I enjoyed the battle, but and I greatly suggest a healer. I went in the orange roughly 5 times and saw damage inflicted on me for over 100 (when he hit). Hope this gives you a taste of what the NM fight is like.
Edited, Wed Apr 27 11:11:44 2005
That's a cool looking knife.
27 posts
i am a lvl 40 bard and going to get this immediately. i very rarely get resisted as is also but the CHR bonus will still help the duration and strength of the songs. jus because songs arent resisted doesnt mean that they are as strong as they could be. that is my opinion at least. everyone plays diff and i am not flaming anyone.
well as a lvl 58 Bard i have to say i still use this dagger like 90 % of the time
and
sometimes if the party is good i can use Shellbuster (club)
*i dont have the light staff but dont tell anyone*
as for CHR+ stuff for bard/ i dont think its needed that much
and if something resists than switch either equiment or
set your macro to cast "Enchanting Etude" before song cast
that should be standard
and
sometimes if the party is good i can use Shellbuster (club)
*i dont have the light staff but dont tell anyone*
as for CHR+ stuff for bard/ i dont think its needed that much
and if something resists than switch either equiment or
set your macro to cast "Enchanting Etude" before song cast
that should be standard
11 posts
On the server Fairy, this is listed in the auction house as a "Jongleur's Knife", same stats and everything. Wonder if anyone else's server does this?
lol
That knife gives different stats and is very nice to melee with if you have the chance as the +str from it is pretty nice.
2 posts
Jongleur's Knife is NOT the Paper Knife - it's a BCNM dropped knife.
I've found that leveling bard for 41 levels that (as much as the mob resists my debuffs, I hardly ever have time to due to the kick butt factor of my parties) you don't really need all that CHR, and being a taru the -VIT isn't very good, I've used dagger since level 10, and have it capped, but as far as I was concerned... at level 48 you get shellbuster (a few -attacking stats and +4CHR) you only switched it out for your light/dark staves for regeneration / healing, and that once you were ready to fight maat, you just skilled up sword for Spirits within and yor dagger skill because BRD has a B+ in dagger... so my conclusion to this run on paragraph, is that the paper knife seems to be useful for the 8 levels you use it...just my 2 cents
I just reached lvl 40 for my BRD yesterday and ive already started the AF1 quest, but i cant seejm to see why this weapon is so great. Like many have said, I also have yet to get a resist...another downside to the paper knife for me is that my dagger skill is 9 ~___~; I've been using Whale staff since lvl 32, building my skill for that Apollo's staff I've saved up for. Anyway, I'm probably gonna have to get it, seing that i need it to get all the other useless BRD AF stuff...
Yeah, just hit 37 last night and am exctited to go after this. Have a 65 NIN and 65 RDM already there to help me out :)
I really think that Paper Knife + Elegant Shield is going to be better for my soft little taru body than Monster Signa. I may get it eventually, but I would really hate to have to skill up staff to a useful level, and besides, I have yet to see anything I see get resisted.
I really think that Paper Knife + Elegant Shield is going to be better for my soft little taru body than Monster Signa. I may get it eventually, but I would really hate to have to skill up staff to a useful level, and besides, I have yet to see anything I see get resisted.
2 posts
Seeing as how i've leveled Bard 41 levels without the Signa and got exactly zero resists the whole way, I'd say this knife is pretty slick. IMHO, Monster Signa is somewhat over-rated, mostly because of the 200k+ pricetag it carries. Mabye at later levels where you're always fighting IT++ mobs it comes in handy, but so far I've felt no need for it.
I got my Paper Knife today! It looks great with my Elegant Shield. My Signa has been retired for now.
My pt setup:
BRD40/WHM20 (me)
MNK60/THF30
PLD55/WAR27
WAR43/PLD21
Very easy fight with our setup! By the time I sang Water Carol (for its Waterga II AoE) and Barwatera and sang Minuet II, it had a sliver of life left. ^^
Edited, Sat Oct 2 23:17:26 2004
My pt setup:
BRD40/WHM20 (me)
MNK60/THF30
PLD55/WAR27
WAR43/PLD21
Very easy fight with our setup! By the time I sang Water Carol (for its Waterga II AoE) and Barwatera and sang Minuet II, it had a sliver of life left. ^^
Edited, Sat Oct 2 23:17:26 2004
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