Gjallarhorn  

My quest for this begins today... If there are any ambitious LS's on the Diabolos server that want to help me out with this one, please send me a /tell or message me. I'm pretty ambitious and would love nothing more than to see just how far that ambition takes me. Cheers!

Desdemona from Diabolos ^^

Apache, a JP player on Shiva server has this but don't know how long shes had it.

I see, a 49 post discussion on the merits of improved ballad, but not 1 post on how to upgrade, quite informative to the aspiring 75 brd...

anybody know step by step how to upgrade this to full relic horn? please post a link ^^

While it is true that at one time, this horn only increased Length of time of effect

NOW, because of one of the last couple of patches the horn also increases POTENCY

SO now it is possible to Have a bard 2 hour, add to it smn sub, refresh and vermy and have

Balad I: 3 (2 hour >> 6)
Balad II: 4 (2 hour >> 8)
Refresh: 3
/SMN: 1
VERMY: 1
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Regular: 7
other refreshes: 12
With 2 hour >> 19 mp / tick

im posting this as of 31 AUG 05 my quest has started. i WILL have this
(lets see how long it takes) {bard} {power}!

ok im jumping on the band wagon to beat the dead horse. first of all any bard (i hope) would know that +2 (specific song here) doesnt mean +2(specific attribute here) ie. Minuet +2 doesnt give you +2 more attack. its more like +2 = +20% +1 = +10% more than if you had the wrong instrument equipped for that song. sorry for my sarcasem but just tired of people adding wrong -.-

:edit: assuming your corrisbonding skillz are capped that is

Edited, Tue Aug 9 15:57:35 2005

The Gjallarhorn is much more than a space saver. Below is a link to a thread on Killing Ifrit that has a video of the 7mp per tick Ballad 1 + Ballad 2 combo.

http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=67201

Soul Voice + the two Ballads would only make 6 mp per tick (Soul Voice + ballad = 2mp. Soul Voice + Ballad 2 = 4mp. total is 6mp) Also neither person in the video has mp regen equipment nor subbing summoner. This fact is also dispalyed in the video as they have no mp regen at all until the Ballads are played.

Edited, Tue Aug 9 14:00:52 2005

Hmm....You think..just maybe...this can give you ReraiseIII? lol, thers a reraise song right? So...Reraise1+2=3(i think lol) Prolly unlikely..but any 75 Brds every try and died to find that out? lol (^^)/

I've been considering a bit lately whether i would bother working on assembling this. the downside of this relic is that you spend alot of time and effort and don't get a shiny new WS to show off. The others all have that as a little added perk whereas this does not. And i apologize if i get a bit wordy; but i wanted to be thorough in my analysis.

so it's not a question of eternal dominance or a rediculous ballad. it's about whether you are willing to spend the time and effort to bleed for the finest instrument. And don't make any doubts: this is the best thing a bard can put in that equip slot to improve thier songs. As i see it since music is the crux of the job, that's pretty important. So i want to share my little analyitical viewpoint on it's musical merits.

The most obvious statistic is the "All songs +2". but it's misleading to think of that as the most important one. this aspect of Gjallar provides the foundation for it's greatness, but is by itself unimportant for the sort of bard that has the means to obtain it in the first place. at this level bards should have instruments with +2 song bonuses for any song they consider important. and clearing inventory space is not nearly important enough to merit the investment involved in obtaining this item. futher, some instruments carry special bonuses that merit thier retention: Hamelin, sorrowful, angel lyre, crumhorn +1, frenzy being the ones that come to mind. I conclude that +2 all songs by itself is inconsequential and unworthy of the investment: it provides nothing of substance that was not available beforehand.

This leads to my point. The other statistics of the Gjallar are what make it a worthwhile item. While there are instruments with charisma bonuses, they are not entirely worthwhile to use on the songs where charisma is most crucial. i believe Ryl. Spearman and Cythara Ang. are the only ones that provide charisma, and while Virelai absolutely benifits from that... well one does not use Virelai in dynamis! So Gjallar will grant some char in a slot where it is otherwise unavailable.

What i find most important are the massive singing and instrument bonuses this instrument grants. skill will improve all aspects of a song (in directions the song can improve) Gjallar gives roughly a bit more combined skill than you can obtain by maxing out merits. offensive songs will stick longer and be more accurate, while defensive songs will be enhanced in effect. Notably MinuetIV will be increased in effectiveness by another point, simply from the skill bonuses, regardless of your current skill. ( http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?ffspell=447 ). What it comes down to is that while this instrument is the same +2 song as any other instrument you would be using, it's other bonuses allow you to trancend your limits and squeeze that extra bit of power out of your music. It would take alot of merits to equal the bonuses granted by this horn... and even with that said, equipping this over those merits will redouble your payoff. It won't make you "the god with the Refresh power of (insert impressive metaphor here). but it will make you better than any other bard, without any question. Assuming you know what you're doing!!!

Once more, forgive my long post. I didn't wish to beat a dead horse, but i thought my position was worth mentioning to those wondering what to do with thier rusted old Relic Horns.
Happy barding everyone~

Edited, Sun Jul 17 03:10:51 2005

I am dwelling on whether or not + [Instruments]are the power or time up. Because I know [Lullaby] last longer with [Mary's Horn] then it does without it. So would this +2 to every song mean longer lasting?

*Squishys*
*Has mouth full of sugar* KEWL HORN! *Mumble-mumble*
*Mumble-chew-crunch* ONIONS! *Grumble*

you will get 6mp a tick with ballad 1 and 2 up

Edited, Fri Dec 24 06:22:26 2004

I'd really like to know if that +2 to songs makes Ballad II have 4 mp every 3 seconds o.o