75BRD/37WHM Titan Well i guess it does make sence that it wouldn't add +2 to Mp refreshed from Ballad, it does sound to ultra powerful. But i did wanna say this much though, Soul Voice not only doubles power of songs, but it also doubles the power of instriments. So if it did add 2 mp to Refresh on Ballad, then stats would be as follows Ballad I 3mp, Ballad II 4mp... Soul voice Ballad I 6mp, Ballad II 8mp... Total 14mp refresh
Ballad no buffballad and soul voiceballad 1 +1 ballad 1 +2 ballad 2 +2 ballad 2 +4
one gives you +3 as normal other gives +6 as soul voice gives double effects. now how even if this horn worked on ballad come out to +14? ...if it did work you'd get +12 duh duh duh!!!!
Ballad no buffballad 1 +1 ballad 2 +2 [u]ballad with soul voice[u] ballad 1 +2 ballad 2 +4
one gives you +3 as normal other gives +6 as soul voice gives double effects. now how even if this horn worked on ballad come out to +14? ...if it did work you'd get +12 duh duh duh!!!!
Thank you! It's kinda annoying when everyone suddenly starts to drool thinking +2 means potency. Even without a Gjallarhorn, you can clearly see any instrument with any +'s to song types makes the effect last longer.
+ instruments always increase the duration and depending on song (i.e. Carol, Minuet, Minne, etc) increase the effect. Grab the Paeon+ harp and you get more hp/tic. Was it truly that clear? More Mp/tic was a pretty safe assumption.
Ahh the Horn, How lovely it is, Problem it a 4th stage Relic instrument ><. For all the Bard look at this, Be prepared to work you *** off,cause the pretty thing is not cheap and is Uber expensive Byne Bill wise >< (LOTs of Time Spent in Dynamis)
I am dwelling on whether or not + [Instruments]are the power or time up. Because I know [Lullaby] last longer with [Mary's Horn] then it does without it. So would this +2 to every song mean longer lasting?
At level 60, you don't need MAry's Junk Horn anymore. Nursemaid's Harp gives +2 to Lullaby and by then you'll have AF and Light Staff. I've never failed to sleep anything with my equip.
Only reason I would get this is just for the plain and simple face that I don't have to carry around 14 instruments anymore. ><; I would keep some of them though for the +evasion skill of Hamelin Flute, of the +3 Threnody from the level 70 Harp (forget the maner). 3 instruments are better than 17! o.O
I know +2 ballad is exciting, but I'd like to point out that the +2 also applies to all those oddball songs that don't have insturments (warding round, goblin gavoette, etc...) it's *possible* that these songs may no longer be so useless with +2 (Hmmm).
its not double song effects *_* that would mean this horn would be equal to having a constant Soul Voice... highly unlikely in my opinion.
more likely it works like every other instrument with a song bonus, ie: increased effect and duration.
i believe the Paeon+2 instrument actually increases the regen effect by 2hp, and the paeon +1 increases it by 1hp, so logically, this will make ballad give 3mp, and ballad II give 4mp.... >_>
dont forget, this is the ultimate instrument for bards, they are not going to gimp it >_<
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Ill let you know when i have it
lol guessing we'll hear back in 2-3 years from you then as there aren't that many in existance system wide (not even many 75BRD JP's have it fully upgraded)