Warning to Players SE is STILL Banning!Follow

Nobody in the asylum is going to like seeing crap pulled there either, to be fair.

ORLY?

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=42;mid=1247205526206053350;num=16;page=1


I'm sure there were more too.

I have 3 linkshells I used at any given time. One of them was my Dynamis shell and I am sure there is no reason to use a bot in Dynamis. Another was a social shell I dropped in every now and again when my best friend was not logged in to the game, but even then I was still almost exclusively on her linkshell, which was a social linkshell make by my best friend. In that linkshell, it was pretty much just me and her that were on it. There were an occasional other person or two who would come on the ls, but those were mostly just rl friends and family that didn't play much at all. Other than that, it was pretty much just me and her exclusively, and neither of us used bots. She mostly plays on the 360 so she can't use windower and the like, but even when she logged on with her PC she did not use them for fear of getting her account hacked like her cousin did over a year ago. I do not use any 3rd party tools whatsoever, windower or anything the like. I did use AltanaView a few times just to view character models but that was on my laptop that I did not log in to FFXI with, and there is no way a model viewer could be considered cheating. Even if it was, there would be no way they would know about it because I never logged online with that laptop, and it doesn't affect your game in any way to begin with.

Edited, Jul 26th 2009 4:34pm by Phallucy

From what I understand, the "suspicious activity" that triggered the RMT-pwner wasn't the gardening itself. It was 15 level 1 characters funneling money to another level 1 character, and that level 1 character shuffling the gil off to another apparently unrelated account. These ones just happened to be legit accounts that gardened full time.

But that is exactly what the RMT do. They make lots of little piles of gil on some characters, and then pool it together on another character, who then sends it off to the bank character. It's not the activity, it's the scale of the activity that triggered the alarms on the RMT pwner. Most of the people I know that garden do so on mules on their main accounts, and only 2-3 of them at a time. And none of them were banned.

I have 95 gardening mules and I haven't been banned.

I'm in a social shell that doesn't bot...and my dyna shell doesn't bot either...and how can I use 3rd party tools on a PS2? Geez...

A friend of mine just got his account banned a few minutes ago right after my trial got banned. I was talking to him and he sent me a message over MSN telling me about it -.-

It appears my room mate's account is not banned as of yet, and she is still using my credit card to pay for her account. She is really scared of being banned right now though. We hope her account stays safe, but even so you should not have to live in constant fear of being banned from a game you rightfully bought and continue to pay for. That is hardly a product worth having and last time I checked SE's advertising strategies, "you shall live in fear of being banned daily just because we woke up with a stick up our *** today!" was not part of the overall marketing strategy for FFXI. Then again, I forgot to read the fine print when they made the trailer for it so I could be mistaken. Still, this is getting out of control.

I actually asked SE Customer Service about what would happen if I started a new character with the same or similar IP address. They indicated that more than likely if 1 character gets banned, they will eventually ban other accounts with similar IPs. The rep said I should wait for my character review and possible unbanning. He also indicated that any future SE games (FFIV) would not consider FFXI bans, and I could in a worst case scenario start fresh with FFIV.

I dunno... My room mate has the same IP as me (for some reason it shows up on our network as the exact same IP even though we are on different computers... we keep changing to different static IPs but it still shows up as the same and I don't know why) and so far she has not been banned yet, but she is scared she might be. She still uses my card for her billing information and I am still banned.

However, my trial account got banned today and with a trial account they don't even ask you for billing information, but the IP address was the same as the one I last logged in to my normal account with. Which begs the question, if they banned based on IP address, why is my room mate still not banned yet this new account is? If it is billing information why is she not banned, and this new account is? You are not even asked for billing information for a trial account until after you decide to keep it, which then it goes in to normal billing. How do they determine what accounts to ban? I sincerely hope her account does not get banned either but we both have that fear it could be. I will ask customer service about the trial account tomorrow and see if they shed some light on why an account was banned when all I did was literally sit in my mog house and just talk to people through /tell and /linkshell.

Edited, Jul 27th 2009 12:50am by Phallucy

Lobivopis told us



ROFL, you have banned yourself from RL! How long does this take to maintain!

Well I've been around since the original 8-bit FF NES game came out stateside. Does that qualify? But seriously, I know what you're saying. I just think some of you guys are reading too much into these banning threads. The logic that SE is trying to kill off FFXI by banning people is just idiotic. Who in their right mind would bother to play FFXIV if you were banned from FFXI for a b.s. reason? My point was to address that lack of sense in the threads sweeping the forums. Now you correct me if I'm wrong, but SE doesn't have good communication with us, right. So who are we to say that these issues aren't being worked on as we speak. Think about it long and hard. SE introduced the security token following the compromising of our players' accounts. Prior to that, SE implemented a Playonline PW with the enhanced kb to lessen the number of hacked accounts providing more security.

Is their billing system screwed up? Yes, they realize this and plan to phase it out for FFXIV. Is their customer service epic fail? Yes again, and I hope they work on this. The point is nobody wants to give SE any credit for anything, just ***** and whine about any and all mistakes. I'm no longer the Square fanboy of the golden 16-bit generation, however I'm giving credit where credit is do. I don't know a single person in-game that has been effected by this including friends of friends, etc. So that tells me this problem isn't as large as people are alluding to in the first place. Does a problem exist, of course yes. Is it as bad as most are stating like in the OP, not even close.

I always appreciate warning threads that have no factual support to justify the claims.