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It's not just you, it's every job. It's supposed to be a group area mostly. It's a shame people dont really team up with people. Even BST with a Familiar'd T pet is having a hard time in there doing anything.

The recent adjustments to the enmity system means a smn will typically have their face torn off for performing any type of action (assault, BP, etc.), since outright damage isn't enough to effectively hold hate. It's a known issue that a lot of jobs are having trouble with, but pet jobs are really feeling the brunt of it.

Good.... good. I gotta say, I'd be disappointed if I could just waltz into an area that has been touted as a brutally savage land that rips buttholes into adventurer's foreheads and just start kicking butt as if they were an Ephemeral Limule eating my Brew-charged Hundred Fists.

Edited, Mar 31st 2013 12:41pm by Amovorite

I still say to this day that Abyssea was going to be SE's last hurrah for XI. They let us have a fun playground with broken stats and easily obtainable items. Then of course, XIV launches, bombs everyone sticks around XI and now they need to make new lasting content, but go back to their old ways. Only issue is, those old ways seem slow and boring now. Is it more challenging? Probably not, just need to go back to the varied jobs to support each other beyond a mnk and whm.

In a game this old though, it's hard to encourage people to go back to bigger varied parties when you've been used to soloing/duoing everything and enjoying it. It's kind of cool that this expansion is trying to do a throw back, but after the success of Abyssea, why not add more areas with huge buffs, challenging mobs and keep the playerbase happy.

People complaining that the game's too difficult? I might actually have to come back to FFXI at this rate...! o_o

I'd like to see the HP of the lair in Lair Reives increased and mobs respawn faster for these.

Right now, I can run in with an ochain, hold back everything while another person wipes out the nest in no time at all. Giving more HP to the nest would increase duration of the event. Even when there are a group of just 6 people at a lair reive, we wipe out the mobs so fast that there's nothing left except the nest, so it would be nice to distract people from the best. I'm sure this last point changes when it comes to higher level reives though.

It completes the cycle..

CoP: Too HARD! too much group work, level caps suck,etc.
Removal of Caps: fast xp, solo content, removal of tactics, etc.- WTF! This game is too easy, too boring, too redundant, so forth and so on
And here we are again.. seems interesting..

Not knocking anyone. Just pointing out that there is no real way of win here. Too many different preferences.

5 seconds to get back in range is a bit harsh, I feel. I once got locked out for 10 minutes because I accidentally walked out of range and had already initiated a DNC cure before I realised. JA lock meant I couldn't get back in fast enough -.- Really? 5 seconds? Not 10? Wtf?!

If anyone rereads my old post, as if your going to, you will see my take on hate. I commend SE for what they have done with this new expansion and as mentioned above, people are never happy.

You wanted hate mechanics to change, you got it. I am glad they did, however I was always a advocacy of you do not have to change the whole game, only the way you play it. People may take offense to this but this whole WOW style of playing has dumbed & made players way to lazy.

At the same time I am all about low people party. Does not take as much time and you still get the social aspect of the game. Kudos to SE for making this more challenging, long live the Nostalgic players!

Main problems that seem to stand out are the 10m lock out and how quickly you're "kicked" for leaving the area. Personally, I'd say cut the timer to 3m, then only kick if you drew enmity on something. From there, up the warning to 15s with a warning every 3s if you're gonna be flagged out of the area. The solution to the "need a tank" problem otherwise seems obvious. Invite one.

Tell me about it. You run outside to retrieve some item, you head back, except without a warp scroll or tele you can't. Next thing, someone will cry that is cheating. Thing is not all players have the same objectives

Maybe they over anticipated just how many players are doing these battles. When campaign and besieged first came out there were alot more people doing them even months after their release.

They put out a form on the official forums (JP) about Reives to gather feedback about how well the system works in practice. Watch the NA side for a form this afternoon/tomorrow.

I farmed >60k Bayld just by doing the Reives I ran in to while questing/doing Ops over the last two days, and it honestly wasn't that bad once I learned the specifics of the different monster groups and built a more aggressive evasion build. As a brief overview for Ceizak Battlegrounds on DNC/NIN:
1) Bees - Harmless until they Final Sting you. Final Sting goes through shadows and can do 2k damage. Try to WS them to death from 25%.
2) Ladybugs - THF type monsters. Very evasive and has access to Amnesia. Try to stun TP moves with Violent Flourish.
3) Grasshoppers - One knock-back/stun TP move that is blocked by shadows. Fight them with your back to a wall so that you aren't ring-out'd.
4) Mantids - Don't fight them unless your group has sleep and knows how to use it. They don't seem to have death prophet, but do have all the other terrible TP moves. Try to stun them.
5) Butterflies - One AoE knockback move that goes through shadows and one Blind/Silence/Paralyze move. These things suck on DNC and make it eminently clear why SE's arguments for Healing Waltz being super strong have always been stupid. Try to stun their TP moves and stay away from other people that are fighting them.
6) Rabbits - Whirl Claws spam can be very dangerous. Keep shadows up and wear an evasion set even when you don't have hate. You will need to Waltz yourself.
7) Spiders - Accept that you're probably going to be slowed for the entire fight, but otherwise these are not very threatening or notable.


I really did enjoy having some moderately difficult battles over the weekend and would not like to see the difficulty get nerfed. It is finally back to the point where triple-links almost always kill me. I would like to see SE reduce the AoE multi-status effect spam (which I swear they said they were doing in the update notes), but most things are manageable. Except for Final Sting (which is avoidable with a little planning), there was never a time where I blinked and I was dead. That was a nice change from Legion, Voidwatch, etc. I mean, I actually had to make/use a hybrid evasion set again. Awesome.

That said, I worry a lot about the staying power of this expansion. It needs more content and it needs it fast. The expansion has been out for less than a week and my remaining tasks from it are:
1) Do the 5 remaining quests (4 are expensive step-and-fetch-its with crap rewards, one is a mining quest with a useful KI reward).
2) Level GEO and RUN to 99 (I don't really have any interest in this, but it is possible)
3) Keep doing my coalition tasks to vote for Signboard at the Peacekeeper's guild. <--- This is the only daily task that accompanied the expansion.