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Nexa

That's apparent.

Your understanding is wrong. Foremost, the co-op system would be private insurers versus a government owned/run public plan. Isn't the fear of scary government run programs supposed to be the boogeyman in the public option debate?

Nope, he just needs to copypasta the rest from the web.

OMG tears Co workers are looking at me funny well funnier

If the private insurers end up being anything like Acorn or Planned Parenthood, then yeah, I think the same argument against a Public Option remains in place.


The boogieman is that the government will use unfair pricing to effectively force truly private insurers out of the business, leaving just the government run system left standing. If the co-ops are all licensed non-profit organizations which receive special deals and access to government subsidies and then compete against for-profit insurers in an environment with price controls in place to ensure that a for-profit company can't remain afloat, it's no different at all (and in some ways worse).

The specifics surrounding these proposed co-ops are still far too vague to make a specific call about them, but I don't think is unreasonable to oppose such things until the details are much more clear. As I've said in past thread, Conservatives have already been burned with the "wait until everything's written. Trust us. The final version will address your concerns..." scam a couple times already this year.

Obama and the Dems have pretty much burned up any trust capital they had with the Republicans, Conservatives, and a whole lot of Independents as well. At this point, no one's listening to what they're promising. We want to see what's actually written down on paper. That game has been played too many times.

First off, O'Reilly is more of a populist than a Conservative, but I suppose he just gets lumped in with the whole set of "people who don't support the liberal agenda right down the line", so whatever.

I can't find a full transcript or video of the interview, but O'Reilly tends to play devil's advocate on his show, taking the opposition side to whatever the person he's interviewing is saying. I wouldn't read much into that at all. Not without seeing what the whole video looked like.

Or... OMG... What if they begin breeding dinosaurs on some island off the South American coast!?!

Because that's about as likely to happen.


Look, you've already shown you don't know what you're talking about in this thread. you don't really need to start covering for it now.

Who? Did you really just include a transient who participated in some rallies as a member of the GOP?


Is the sole purpose of the GOP to protect the sexual security of children? Does the GOP receive federal funds to do this? I somehow missed that in the definition of "political party". There's a difference between members of an organization committing crimes unrelated to their position within said organization, and members committing crimes directly connected to what they do. A politician is no more or less expected to not violate our sex laws than any other citizen.


The members of Acorn are supposed to be helping needy people obtain financial aid for which they qualify. Helping people to lie about their conditions in order to qualify for aid they aren't supposed to receive is in direct violation of what they're supposed to be doing. They are entrusted to do a job and have failed in that trust. The degree of violation is indicative of a larger problem with the whole of the institution. An organization given this trust should be taking steps to make sure that trust isn't abused. It's pretty clear that they have failed to do so. Miserably.

Actually, what we're speculating is that O'Reilly realized that Beck is getting too crazy for mainstream GOPers, and he's trying to move toward the center a little more so he can capitalize on the people who have stopped watching Beck for that reason.

Read the news: recessions "over", stocks are up, & consumer spending just made the biggest jump in years. I'd like to thank massive government spending, in the form of Stimulus Packages, for this. This of course, requires I thank W & Obama, respectively, & I don't even feel dirty for doing so.



Who the fuck cares about insurance companies? They, by their very definition, make money off of the people who aren't sick & try everything in their power to decline coverage for the sick. I have no problem if they're taken down a peg.

Looks like we got our 60 seat majority back!



Fuck the Repblicans, we'll pass healthcare reform without em'.

How's it feel to have Kennedy kick you in the balls from his grave?

That assumes that they do something with their majority. Otherwise, it just turns into a "Kennedy as Charlie Brown" moment.