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Latent Effect: Steal

  • The latent effect triggers when the player's current HP is at or below 75% and their current TP is under 100%.

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Clarification
# Mar 02 2008 at 12:41 AM Rating: Default
Ya, just remember that this ring most likely works off of 'base' HP meaning if you have HP+ gear on, it's going to throw you off. Calculate 75% of your HP before gear and before food.

Be warned though, using this ring and fighting will most likely get you killed, time and time again I have regretted using this ring and I'm no noob thief.
Rogues cheapness
# Jan 17 2008 at 12:46 AM Rating: Decent
wow I only paid 4k for mine, but using it for my LB5, tried BLU LB5 4 times and RDM LB5 4 times, I'm ready for something a little more simple.
Defentaly worth it
# Jul 21 2007 at 9:41 PM Rating: Decent
Well, I've discovered somethings about steal and this ring. I'm a 68THF on Hades server. I've been doing steal runs for Maat since 66. Well, first off this ring works best when in yellow HP. I go to steal from Tomberry Pursuers and well always had ****** luck. I found out that if you keep yellow HP steal. It seems to work best if your in combat and steal. I've tried sleeping. Nothing but Failed to Steal. I've tried hidden and from behind and again Failed to Steal. But I found the best method is to have this ring equiped and stay in yellow HP. Running up in combat then steal seems to be really effective. I did that method for my last testimony then went straight to Maat. Got pumped for Maat then just ran in used Reraise and went into combat. I let him hit me once then stole. I came out 1/5. It may all just be luck but I will have to do more research on it. I've tried all those above methods too and this one just seems to work the best.
Fenrir prices ftw!..? Remora FTW
# Jun 26 2007 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
LOL i just got this ring at AH on remora server and only paid 3k for it. Remora FTW
Fenrir prices ftw!
# Dec 08 2006 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
bought this for my thief two weeks ago. 30k on Fenrir. loving the +3 steal so far!
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# Aug 29 2006 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
20k on Garuda. ^^ Got one, using it on Goblin Bandits in an attempt to steal a Thf Testimony.
Latent while attacking
# Aug 07 2006 at 12:50 AM Rating: Good
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I understand the latent for this is thought to be 75% or lower HP and under 100% TP, but does anyone have any idea about if you have to have your weapons drawn and be attacking for the latent or not?
Rogue's Ring
# Jul 27 2006 at 3:44 PM Rating: Decent
Latent effect is triggered by having less than 100% TP and less than 75% HP.
hope that helps someone out there.


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Hmmmm
# May 11 2006 at 8:34 AM Rating: Default
Yes this is a tough ring to test. I have it macroed in and it really seemd to help in Bibiki Bay but I cannot be sure exactly what triggers it. 800k on Fairy in May 06'.
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 11 2006 at 9:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Every other of the lvl 50 latent rings requires yellow hp and <100% tp to use. Logically, this would follow the pattern.
crazy world i live in
# Feb 09 2006 at 1:53 AM Rating: Decent
Ive been wanting one of these for awhile but due to crazy price jump from 800k in Dec 05 to now 3 Million on Fairy i refuse to buy for over 1M for a latent effect. I did the BCNM chest won but no ring i was sad but ended with Quake 1.4M i can't even sell that to get my ring ><
RE: crazy world i live in
# Mar 31 2006 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
OMFG 3mil!?!?! I'm sorry dude that just plain sux!

150k on Gilgamesh =D
To hard to prove
# Dec 31 2005 at 7:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Trying to prove what latent effect makes this ring go off, will be harder than trying to proving Intelligent Design.
RE: To hard to prove
# Feb 10 2006 at 8:24 PM Rating: Default
Wow, you are the coolest!
woot
# Oct 29 2005 at 3:03 PM Rating: Default
I just picked up this ring from BCNM50, Trials and Tribulations. gunna test it out on my thf soon! looks nice.

By the way, 260k on alexander.
Current Theory
# Jul 26 2005 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Currently the theory is that this ring's latent effect kicks in when HP is less than or equal to 75% AND TP is less than 100.
In the past I've heard TH doesn't work if you kill a monster with WS. Some of you may be avoiding doing this while farming, and so building up TP and making your ring's latent effect not work. Try keeping your TP below 100% and HP below 75%. In xp parties you will probably gain TP too quickly to notice a real difference, so this is probably best tested farming.
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RE: Current Theory
# Mar 15 2006 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent
the latent effect is "Steal", not treasure hunter, so no need to worry about how a mob dies
RE: Current Theory
# Mar 04 2006 at 5:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Just read this as I'm thinking about getting this.
For those in a farming run trying to test it out but having too much TP but not wanting to kill the mob with a WS, if you're using dagger, which if you're a thf at this lvl you should be and if not, shame on you, use the 2 MP stealing WSes to drain your TP while keeping yourself from killing the mob at the same time. Very useful for those last minute steals.
statistics
# Jul 20 2005 at 9:39 PM Rating: Decent
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perhaps steal +3 raises the perccentage from 5% to 8% (not actual but conceptual) so you wouldn't even know its working unless you looked at results from thousands of tests. With that said I'm going to assume the latent effect is activated when the thf is currently not the most hated.
Stealing
# Jul 06 2005 at 1:19 PM Rating: Excellent
I thought I'd just put my 2 cents up here since i've been testing this ring relentlessly ever since i got it <<68thf. I've tried everything I can think of to get this thing to work, and I mean EVERYTHING! Instead of trying to activate the ring, i now do what works best and i assume the ring is working since, well, it works best ^^. I steal most often when behind a mob and engaged in battle. Of course, this only works with another person helpin u. Also, i find that i can steal more efficiently from gobs, opposed to yags, quadavs, whatever. I don't know if any of these factors are activating the ring or not, but it works the best in my experience. I've never once noticed a difference in stealing ability with regards to yellow hp, red hp, ANY hp, or any variations of tp for that matter. Oh yea, i think this goes without saying, but ill say it anyway. The weaker the mob, the easier to steal from them, except when the mobs differ in species. It's easier to steal from VT gobs than it is to steal from EP yags and quadavs.
Remember, this is just my experience, don't take any of it for fact. I'm just posting my findings to try and help out. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, that's fine ^^
Still lookin'
# Jun 30 2005 at 9:44 PM Rating: Decent
Been camping this ring on the Lakshmi AH for weeks now. I always seem to miss it. /cry

I'm gonna need this for my Maat fight pretty soon, so if anyone on Lakshmi wants to get rid of one of these I'll buy it for 80k. Just /tell Zvornik.

And to answer questions: This ring (like all the level 50 JSE rings of this type) are activated by yellow HP.

But remember, every Latent effect is different. Just like with those level 30 earrings, a certain sub makes those Latent effects kick in. So the pattern for the level 50 rings seems to be yellow HP.

Do not confuse Hidden effects with Latent effects.

A Hidden effect is just that, hidden, the item will not hint to what a hidden effect is.

Where as a Latent effect is clearly labled on the item, but it's our job to find out what triggers that effect.

Edited, Thu Jun 30 23:02:11 2005
solution
# Jun 24 2005 at 2:45 PM Rating: Excellent
It kik's in when you are hidden ^.^
Latent Effect
# Mar 17 2005 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Well if it's like the Guardian Ring for Paladins then it is Yellow Health and under 100tp to activate.
RE: Latent Effect
# Jun 24 2005 at 2:44 PM Rating: Excellent
no v.v it is when u use hide that it works.
RE: Latent Effect
# Dec 13 2005 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
Quote:
no v.v it is when u use hide that it works.


Steal in general works better when you use Hide ... BUT only on mobs that agro by sight.
EX. Gobs.
Latent Effect
# Mar 17 2005 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Well if it's like the Guardian Ring for Paladins then it is Yellow Health and under 100tp to activate.
Asura...DaYum...
# Feb 18 2005 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow...That's quite a bit on Asura. Only 50K on Gilgamesh. I'll be buying one as soon as I get my paws on a Corsair's Knife, which is 400K at the moment. T_T;
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RE: Asura...DaYum...
# Aug 01 2005 at 5:06 PM Rating: Decent
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QUITE A BIT!?! its f**kin 200k on fairy! [and i just tried 200k and it didnt work QUIT JACKIN UP THE PRICE MOFOS]! dont f'in complain about low prices T.T i need this fer my thf so i can make massive gil (hopefully) by stealin gold bstcoins in skill up pts w/ full af, this and if i can get me a rab charm
RE: Asura...DaYum...
# Aug 01 2005 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
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ok sry i fergot to switch accounts, muerte didnt post this, i did
hidden steals?
# Jan 10 2005 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
maybe this effect kicks in if you are hidden? I was just thinking that if a SAM's kicks in at 100% tp then the stat prolly kicks in for something more specific to your job. I would think that for a thief the closest thing we have is Hide so... maybe if I get one of these Ill try that out.
RE: hidden steals?
# Jan 15 2005 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
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That's an interesting thought. Post something here if you conclude anything. I'm skeptical to buy--150k now on Asura =/
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Means...
# Dec 16 2004 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
Dunno if anybody knew this, but latent means hidden. So no, it doesn't neccesarily mean you have to have yellow health, that's probably coincidental. Probably kicks in at random, or maybe at intervals, I don't know. Once I hit 50, I'll get one and check it out for myself, but until then, I'll keep thinking it's random. Maybe somebody can prove a pattern in it or something. I hope I helped solve a bit of this confusion with "latent effects" ^.^
Yellow HP
# Dec 10 2004 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Just asked a THF59 who has one on my server. He says that it activates when his HP is in yellow.
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