Wyrm Brais
Wyrm Brais
28 posts
Also dropped in Dynamis - Valkurm
1: It's obtained in Dynamis Bastok. NOT Dynamis Sandoria as this page once said.
2: It reduces the physical damage your wyvern takes by 5%, NOT the dmg the dragoon takes.
3: Enhances High Jump effect relates to the ammount of hate shed. Macro swap this in spam parties where you pull too much hate. Not dying > miniscule TP boost from Baron/Conte Cosciales.
4: If you wear this full time. QUIT THE GOD DAMN JOB. YOU'RE RETARDED.
5: It doesn't matter what you call it, as long as others understand you. Quit fighting over something so miniscule.
The preceding info is FACT. I have tested the effect myself, and it seems to shed aproximately 500 points of damage. This means that awesome double attack high jump you just did for 600 damage will not shed hate. This number is just a rough estimation based on my own personal use of the item. Effects may vary.
2: It reduces the physical damage your wyvern takes by 5%, NOT the dmg the dragoon takes.
3: Enhances High Jump effect relates to the ammount of hate shed. Macro swap this in spam parties where you pull too much hate. Not dying > miniscule TP boost from Baron/Conte Cosciales.
4: If you wear this full time. QUIT THE GOD DAMN JOB. YOU'RE RETARDED.
5: It doesn't matter what you call it, as long as others understand you. Quit fighting over something so miniscule.
The preceding info is FACT. I have tested the effect myself, and it seems to shed aproximately 500 points of damage. This means that awesome double attack high jump you just did for 600 damage will not shed hate. This number is just a rough estimation based on my own personal use of the item. Effects may vary.
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#4 + #5 = Wow, you're a hypocrite. Congrats.
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4: If you wear this full time. QUIT THE GOD DAMN JOB. YOU'RE RETARDED.
I guess this point isnt valid anymore since the update. As far as I see it, 1STR = 1att and 1 DEX = 1 acc on 2-handed weapons measn this legs give +5 acc technically. And +5 acc on legs isnt too bad lol
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I hate to say it, but I agree with omasthedragoon. It's LONG past the time that you people should just stop bickering over trivial matters. It doesn't really matter what it is, just drop it. And if you wanna pull that "well this NPC requests a piece of RELIC armor, but does/doesn't accept this as such...." arguement, then to you I say woopy Fu*kin' do!
Just do what ya gotta do to get what you want. disputing what to CALL it is painfully besides the point.
Just do what ya gotta do to get what you want. disputing what to CALL it is painfully besides the point.
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good god people seem to have no lives. check any vana diel map online that involves the lvl 50-60 artifact and it will say "DRG AF2 ???" pointing to the area that you pop the mob for the armor. loads of space was wasted on these posts because i highly doubt anyone /really/ cares what its call so long as they get it and can use it. whoever all said it was right, it goes by both names to different people. mostly its slang made up by people that became widely used and thought to be the "correct" way of stating it.
How does it affect High Jump? Plain, simple.
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I would think that it makes High Jump shed more hate. That is the "effect" of high jump. The damage is more secondary, I'd think.
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I can't offer a definitive answer for you, because I don't think there really is a way to prove this.
When I got this, I started asking all the DRGs I knew what it could possibly mean. I checked for myself, and what it DOESN'T mean is:
Quicker recast timer
More TP
The only help I was offered is that it increases damage. As I said, I don't know how one could possibly test that, as my jumps tend to be inconsistant in terms of output. I average about 140-180 normally, but I've gone as high as 550 (Both without the benefit of 'Enhanced Jump/HJ Effect') I guess if ya wanna do 100 Jumps with ur AF on and 100 Jumps with ur AF off to test this theory and compile all that info....
Personally, as DRG/SAM, it's not worth it. I get +2 STR, +5 Attack and +1 TP extra with barone leggings on rather than these, so it's not worth the change to me. But for S&Gs sake, clarity/closure would be appreciated. I'm just too lazy and don't care enough to do it myself.
When I got this, I started asking all the DRGs I knew what it could possibly mean. I checked for myself, and what it DOESN'T mean is:
Quicker recast timer
More TP
The only help I was offered is that it increases damage. As I said, I don't know how one could possibly test that, as my jumps tend to be inconsistant in terms of output. I average about 140-180 normally, but I've gone as high as 550 (Both without the benefit of 'Enhanced Jump/HJ Effect') I guess if ya wanna do 100 Jumps with ur AF on and 100 Jumps with ur AF off to test this theory and compile all that info....
Personally, as DRG/SAM, it's not worth it. I get +2 STR, +5 Attack and +1 TP extra with barone leggings on rather than these, so it's not worth the change to me. But for S&Gs sake, clarity/closure would be appreciated. I'm just too lazy and don't care enough to do it myself.
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I use these as my main leg slot for my lvl 75
drg and they are really helpfull.
MY DRG
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?110549
drg and they are really helpfull.
MY DRG
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?110549
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Posted: Mar 03 2006 at 1:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) IT'S AF2..... STOP THIS.
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no well see, i call it relic armor or epic armor, becuse when you talk about AF2 when you walk around 75, not everyone is thinking drops in dynamis but maybe the quest for another job, so i just make things less complacated and call it those, and if people ask i simple tell them "its relic armor that drops inside dynamis" there problem solves xD
Technically... I'll use DRG as an example
AF1 = Peregrine
AF2 = Drachen Brais
AF3 = Drachen Greaves
AF4 = Drachen Gauntlets
AF5 = Drachen Mail
AF6 = Drachen Armet
Relic Weapon = Relic Lance/Gungnir
Relic Armor = Referring to all Wyrm Gear
When you see it referred to in any other way, its because early on this wasn't understood, and misconstrewed to the way it is now.
AF1 = Peregrine
AF2 = Drachen Brais
AF3 = Drachen Greaves
AF4 = Drachen Gauntlets
AF5 = Drachen Mail
AF6 = Drachen Armet
Relic Weapon = Relic Lance/Gungnir
Relic Armor = Referring to all Wyrm Gear
When you see it referred to in any other way, its because early on this wasn't understood, and misconstrewed to the way it is now.
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It's RELIC!
No, it's AF2!
Relic
AF2
Relic
AF2
We've all heard both arguements....stop repeating yourselves PLEASE!
No, it's AF2!
Relic
AF2
Relic
AF2
We've all heard both arguements....stop repeating yourselves PLEASE!
... It's Relic... and I have INGAME proof
go to port jeuno and talk to that npc is the BRD armor who will up grade ur relic armor to relic +1
she herself calls it RELIC armor
go to port jeuno and talk to that npc is the BRD armor who will up grade ur relic armor to relic +1
she herself calls it RELIC armor
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i would also like to hear less about AFv2/Relic and more about how this affects High Jump, etc etc... if u have noticed any differences in hate lost or anything, post so we can go play more FFXI >_> just a thought.
...if I may interrupt...how thw crap does this enhance High Jump?
So... 2 types of DRG AF drop in San d'Oria? I got a pair of Wyrm Greaves(Auto-lotted) there a while ago.
i think Se needs to add "for all you idiots out there, this means It effects the wyvern not the drg"
Scholar
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ok look at DRG AF pants it says
"Wyvern: HP + 10%" so this does effect the wyvern not the drg think before u post plz
"Wyvern: HP + 10%" so this does effect the wyvern not the drg think before u post plz
so let me get this straight, its found in bastok, but the monsters it drops off of are in dynamis sandoria?
This is definately a point of confusion. I personally just recieved the Wyrm Greaves from Dynamis San d'Oria. This drops from the mobs in Bastok.
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Posted: Jun 13 2005 at 10:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I was talking to a high lvl dragoon. And he says the physicalk damage taken doesn't effect the wyvern but the player character when the wyvern is out, that's why it doesn't say Wyvern Physical taken -5%, but Wyvern: Physical damage taken -5%.
Im starting to think this armor is wyvern friendly, about all of it only helps the wyvern.
From a lvl 74 ninja i know-
"Getting stuff in Dynamis is only hard when you have the maximum amount of people. But it also makes it easier."
I have no idea either... dont ask
"Getting stuff in Dynamis is only hard when you have the maximum amount of people. But it also makes it easier."
I have no idea either... dont ask
what he means is getting drops is hard with a bunch of people because that decreases YOUR chance of getting the item, but it's easier with more people since you get MORE drops from killing MORE mobs with MORE people, giving you more chances to get the item you are after.
AF:vanadiel areas
Relic:Dynamis areas
Relic:Dynamis areas
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Posted: Jun 22 2004 at 8:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) no it's Artifact 2. look at Mystery Tour, they are classifing the Armor that drops for each race in Dynamis as Artifact 2.
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Posted: Jun 23 2004 at 8:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Look People...AF2 is a gamer term to distinguish between the Armor and the Weapons. The first site I saw this stuff on (which happened to be Mystery Tour) classified the Armor AND Weapons as Relic Gear. AF2 is just easier to understand what people are talking. So stop trying to constantly correct each other...you're BOTH right...
It's not AF2, it's Relic. It's also NOT at the AH, it's a Rare/Ex item. You get it in Dynamus, I think. Probably a very rare drop.
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Posted: Jun 22 2004 at 3:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It is AF2 its the 2nd set of AF, relic only applys to the weapons you get in dynamis wich have "realic" in their name.
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Posted: Jun 22 2004 at 9:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wow a lot of people have their facts about relic/af2 mixed up.
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Wow a lot of people have their facts about relic/af2 mixed up.
Pedro has it right. This is part of the AF2 sets of armor, acquired by defeating dynamis bosses.
Pedro has it right. This is part of the AF2 sets of armor, acquired by defeating dynamis bosses.
That's funny. You say I don't know what I'm talking about, yet you say these drop from bosses, when in fact they can drop from ANY mob.
When I posted that, was around when Dynamis was FIRST made, and everyone called it RELIC. AF2 back in the day referred to your second AF Quest.
As the other guy said, it's both correct in the end.
To end the confusion, call it AFv2..
Thanks its glad to see that somebody knows what they're talking about. If anybody else still thinks its "relic" like the weapons keep in mind certain "relic" weapons can be used by multiple jobs and the armor that drops in dynamis (AF2) cant.
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Ok....It doesn't matter what you call it, both are right, but last time I checked...I don't take advice about anything over level 50 from some noob who's level 31...
Facts:
1) it IS Rare/Ex.
2) it CAN be called BOTH names Relic or AF2 because the only ppl that are concerned with it are the ppl over lvl 60, and they arent dumb enough to mix it up with the AF you get from lvls 52-60.
3) it is ONLY obtained in Dynamis.
Now if your gunna ***** about something, make it about these pants and not relic/AF2 ********* I'm sick and tired of reading up on items and seeing random flame posts about things that have nothing to do with the thing your looking at. Go to a place where they actually care about what you have to ***** about you dumbass.
Edited, Sat Feb 12 13:50:15 2005
Facts:
1) it IS Rare/Ex.
2) it CAN be called BOTH names Relic or AF2 because the only ppl that are concerned with it are the ppl over lvl 60, and they arent dumb enough to mix it up with the AF you get from lvls 52-60.
3) it is ONLY obtained in Dynamis.
Now if your gunna ***** about something, make it about these pants and not relic/AF2 ********* I'm sick and tired of reading up on items and seeing random flame posts about things that have nothing to do with the thing your looking at. Go to a place where they actually care about what you have to ***** about you dumbass.
Edited, Sat Feb 12 13:50:15 2005
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It doesn't matter, get that through your heads guys geez. AF2=Relic=AF2=Relic yadayadayadayada. Argue over something worth arguing, rather than just what you want to call a full set of gear.
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IS THIS AF2??? >.< prob not cause its on auction.. but you never know... I WANNA SEE IT!!!
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how could it be on auction? answer: it can't.
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OMGOMGOMGOMG!!!! IT IS AF2 XDDDDDDDD ...I STILL WANNA SEE A PIC... SOMEONE PLEASE SEND ONE >.< even if its a screen shot from some super highbie jp who has it...
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OMGOMGOMG... don't have a hernia!
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