Trade 40 Beastmen Seals to Shami and get a Star Orb. Trade the orb to the Burning Circle in Horlais Peak located in the Yughott Grotto.
This fight is capped at level 40, and only three people may enter the Burning Circle. Upon entering, you will find three mobs from the Hecteyes family: One large Sobbing Eyes and two smaller Compound Eyes.
A typical strategy for this fight is to go in with a party consisting of two NIN/BLM or NIN/RDM's and a RDM/BLM. Eat food, buff, heal, then each NIN will take their own Compound Eyes while the RDM kites the Sobbing Eyes with Elemental Seal Gravity to start, then Bind and Gravity. Each NIN will spam Tier-2 Elemental Wheel Ninjutsu on their Compound Eyes, making sure to keep their back to the mob to avoid the paralysis effect of the Hex Eyes ability. Once their individual mobs are dead, the NIN's will rush to where the RDM has kited the Sobbing Eyes and spam Tier-2 Elemental Wheel spells again until the fight is over, while again keeping their backs turned towards the mob.
Note: Reports indicate that it is possible for Scroll:Utsusemi: Ni to drop twice from the same treasure chest at the end of the fight.
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Edited, Jun 15th 2010 5:54pm by jdragon1976
We do this BC with me as Blu, my wife as Nin and our friend as Rdm. Tonight, when we "attempted" this BC twice, my wifes elemental wheel would only do 7 points of damage each spell (compaired to 72+ EVERY other time we've done this).
Has anyone ever encountered this or could potentially explain what the hell happened to us last night. Needless to say we failed both runs.
Thanks for your time.
Edited, Feb 11th 2010 12:34pm by Sarantyr
I kept reading different things about this fight to see if anything would give me a clue about what the hell was different this time around. And someone talking about Ni spells prompted me to look at the log files on my PC to see what spells my wife was casting (I wasn't paying attention to the chat log all that much as I was focused on trying to compensate for the drop in dmg output). And, low and behold, she was casting Ichi spells. On Sunday I helped her and one of our dynamis ls mates do Shadows of the Departed as they had just beat Storms of Fate Saturday night. She went Nin and had changed her elemental wheel macros to Ichi for the promy climbs. That was the last time (until we went in to do this BCNM) that she used Nin and obviously forgot to change her spells back.
So, mystery solved and lesson learned.
Jobs: 3 x BLM/NIN (preferably capped sub for boosted stats. Just in case.)
Items to bring: One yagudo drink for each one of you, every round. (If each of you have an orb, bring 3.)
Shihei (the whole point of the method.)
Pies (You want a lot of MP and INT. Obv.)
Gear: Dual wield some HQ INT wands or something. (I'm not sure if they're better than the staves, because of level synch)
A lot of RSE/Seer's
Strategy: As soon as you enter the BCNM, cast Utsusemi. Reraise if you want (just in case.) Hike up to the arena, and get close to the edge of it (Don't get too close!) Pick an exact time on the game clock to inform your party to start casting (it's important to synch up, so you kill off the two grunt Hecteyes.)
But before you start casting, drink your juice and use Elemental Seal (also important.) When the clock hits the time you selected, all of you begin casting your best -aga spell on the big guy in the middle.
When your spells land, immediately start casting your next best -aga spell. (Thundaga for most level 40 mages.) If your shadows are down, recast them at the next safest opportunity. (Preferably when you have no hate)
Keep sending off your next best spells, until every one of the bastards are dead.
If at any point you require Manafont, I suggest you use it!
We broke the record every time we did it over the next few weeks.
Edited, Jan 22nd 2009 2:04pm by EtherealTwilight
I'm going to say no, b/c SAM has to face the eyes to actually do damage. By doing so, you open yourself up to moves that can leave you as a block of stone and unable to help. As far as a kiter, that probably won't work either. That would have you relying too much on luck, which is never a good thing for this BCNM.
1x RDM/NIN or RDM/WHM
Elemental nuke the mini ones while facing backwards for both NIN/RDM.
The RDM kites the boss up and down the giant pathway leading to the entrance till the NIN/RDMs kill the little ones.
After the little ones die, have both NIN/RDM separate themselves from everybody while spamming nukes, so if the boss decides to petrify/AoE, it'll only hit one person.
Another cool thing about this method is that the boss will run back and forth between the two NINs, so its very safe. If one NIN gets petrify/-ga, the other NIn will keep rotating his/her spells until s/he pulls hate, saving the other NIN. Enchancing skill may be gimp for NIN/RDM, but having halfass barfire on yourself will definitely helps increase your resistance to the -ga nukes.
With all that happening, the RDM or the NIN/RDM can heal themselves to pull hate as well.
RDM can nuke the boss as well when the NINs are on it.
Give or take, a good 6-8min is all you need.
Next fight we had another BLM come with StonegaII to switch out with one of the one's that did not. We beat it pretty easily this time. Strategy:
Melon Pie, Protectra & Shellra, Blink, Re-raise, Aquaveil, Shock Spikes, Rest to full, Barfira, Elemental Seal, Yagudo Drink
StonegaII (the BLM with no StonegaII used something else - they said TierII)
Killed it pretty quickly. Nothing interesting was in the chest. Next fight we died. It can be pretty easy to get unlucky with three BLM strategy. If one mob gets on one person and you can't pry them off it can go bad quickly. Next run was successful, and Ni dropped.
I wouldn't mind doing this BCNM again.
Good spells to use, which order to kill the eyes and tactics?
Thanks in advance.
It was pretty close though, I spent about 20k on meds and almost used them all.
Anyway, we go in, he calls Tiger Familiar, we buff up and whatnot and wait 3 minutes for call beast to cool down a little. Since this was our first run, we weren't too sure about how long we should wait, but 3 minutes proved beyond sufficient. Once we were ready, he sends his kitty on the Sobbing Eyes and lets all 3 eyes aggro it while he runs away. Once he is far enough, he uses heel and starts kiting 2 eyes while I start killing a Compound Eyes.
Alternating between Screwdriver and Bludgeon while headbutting spells and backward tanking worked out quite well. I managed to kill a compound eyes in about a minute while burning through roughly 150-200ish MP. Once my eyes were dead I began recovering some MP via mulsum as my bst friend brought the eyes back up. I grabbed the other compound eyes and went to work while he held off the Sobbing eyes some more. The second Compound Eyes was a lot tougher than the first; I had to burn through 250-300ish MP to kill him.
Once both lesser eyes were felled, I began resting while my bst friend let his tiger fight to the death, at which point he used an Antlion jug and began working on the sobbing eyes. Once I recovered a sufficient amount of MP I began fighting. The last battle was pretty close, I was practically out of MP and HP, but we won.
All in all, we got about 10k worth of junk ._.;
Some side notes:
I used 3 HiPotions +3, 2 yagudo drinks (another one would have helped greatly, my second one wore off shortly after the death of the second Compound Eyes) and 8 mulsum (bought a stack for 14k so I had a good 4 to spare). My friend walked in with 6 HiPotions, but gave me 3 near the end of the fight (all of which I burned through). He only used one.
You really have to be careful when fighting these eyes. All it takes is a split second for it to use Hex Eyes on you and ***** you over big time. On my second Compound Eyes I actually got hit by Hex Eyes and had to kite it a bit so as to not get my *** handed to me. The paralysis doesn't last long, but it's incredibly potent, acting more like stun than paralyze.
If you're kiting the Sobbing eyes, make sure to keep a huge distance between you and him. 1 breakga is all he needs to mess you up big time. If you're kiting as a beastmaster, make sure you keep a large space between you and your pet; on our first run, my friend didn't leave much space and he pulled too much hate through the use of heel.
Also, if you're going to be insane mofos like us, try to be lvl 40. Both of you. Those extra 2 levels would helped greatly (Chain affinity, +15 accuracy from gear, more MP, more attack from gear, etc.)
And finally, good luck to anyone trying this BCNM.
Edited, May 3rd 2008 2:38am by mathayusofalexander
Now Jakewyler works with a RDM partner, forgot the name but they are in the same LS.
Caution, we were very curious on how this group could manage to steal BCNM rewards. We thought that well from what we heard Jake is always leader then disbands after opening chest, I believed that is cause leaders keep loot when no one lots or something.
I was way wrong, my friend demanded leadership to see if he disbanded he wouldnt lose his items.
After winning the BCNM, Jake opened the chest quickly and before my friend could even see the drops, he left the pt. Now at first I was confused why my friend still didnt get the items. I believe it is because Jake opened the chest and since pt disbanded he gets the rights.
So even though we figured we could out beat the CON, we still lost and to this day no idea what items were dropped that night. So do not BCNM with these people, your best bet is to do this with friends or trusted linkshell members, since the only way to lose to these people is if they open your chest or you just dont go with them.
It's sad tehre are people out there like this, hopefully SE will figure something out to solve this BCNM issue that is making it easy for not just selfish meanies, but this can also be taken advantage of by RMTs, and we wont need anymore of them causing bad economy.
Final note this happened on Fairy server, and from what I heard in Whitegate, Jakewyler and his partner rhm has coned atleast 20+ ppl or more. ;_; Be careful everyone, these 2 know what their doing.
Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 3:37pm by Kesala
They can also solo a Fusion Skillchain and Magic Burst off it, that'll sort out the bigger eye in no time at all, especially when you have x2 BLU that do it.
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
Invictus -- William Ernest Henley
me=nin/war or mnk/nin
both bsts use tiger pets because the tigers can outrun the casting of the sobbing eyes spells. The eyes are naturally slow anyway just make sure you sent your pet from a distance and run a but before calling it back. The weaker bst does this job. J is a 75 bst and has merits and stuff so he is my melee and T does the kiting. Anyway his pet attacks the sobbing and he runs off. I voke a compound or i let the other bst cast dia on it(if mnk) and we go to town. 2 chars and a pet take one down in like 2 minutes. Then we run down and take the second compound eye and kill it. At this point sometimes we switched kiters but normally T is fine. After that we spread out and i tank the sobbing and they sent their pets in and help me out.
Ok before i hear all this ******** about MNK WTF?!?!? my mnk has merits and can use Raging Fists at level 40. Which is the best ws in the game damagewise at this time. So think what you like but either way i have only lost this bcnm 3 times out of 18+ runs and that was the first run and then the first run with T who called his pet back too early and he got nailed with breakga. My ls has gotten approx 15x Ni, and 5 PCC(not approx) so think what you like.. otherwise use the BLM x 3 idea with the timed aga's works like a charm unless you get horribly unlucky.
Edited, Jul 6th 2007 9:52pm by blulight
One BST cannot take a sobbing eyes on his own, the pets are just paralyzed too much for it to work. Unless the RDM is very talented and can kite two at once, don't try this configuration, BST BST BST is much safer.
Craps drops on all runs I think the gold bst coin on my orb was the highlight ><
Nin/Blm I averaged 84 dmg per nuke vs. 66 average off of the Nin/War, not "alot" more damage just glancing at it but I did finish my eye and run to help on his when he was still at 40% or so on the last two runs (remembered to throw parser on for those) and our total damage percents were: #2 Sobbing 57.94%@/blm 41.81%@/war, #3 Sobbing 62.09%@/blm 37.91%@/war.
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