I like the concept of the storyline going back in time. I'm thinking the invitation of new jobs is a little optimystic. I would imagine that most of the character changes would be in the already existing jobs. There just seems to be too much speculation and not enough real information at the moment.

It would be nice to see a new job(s), new abilities, and new quests/ missions. I still have so much left to do in the game I'm not so worried about all the new stuff yet, lol. I guess all we can do is keep on checking back.

Just wanted to make a note, the COR ability Random Deal can already refresh job abilities.

A lot of people forget what COR can do since it's such an uncommon job, so I just wanted to point it out. ^^;

I disagree that Time Mage would be completely useless-- as it's been said a lot of spells they normally have are already split amongst the existing mage jobs-- but can't you imagine any other benefits to speeding up or slowing down time, or bending space? How about a job ability refresh? Probably wouldn't work on two-hours, but that'd still be darn handy. Maybe a short-range teleport, similar to tractor but moves you ahead a certain distance quickly (would make Time Mage an interesting puller). Or perhaps an ability that speeds up certain DoT spells, like Poison. Normally it does, say 1 point of damage every 3 seconds, but with a Time Mage's help it would deal a point of damage every second and wear off sooner, so it could be cast again and deal more damage over the same amount of time (could also work on regen and refresh for your allies). There are always plenty of possibilities if you dig a little bit.

Can't say that it'll happen, still, but it could. Admittedly, I've always loved Time Mage so I'm a little partial to seeing it in FFXI. As for mime, mimicry should've been PUP's two-hour ability. That's where that should've come in. Geomancer would be awesome-- there's a lot that could be easily done with that. Chemist..? Maybe, in the sense that it could revolve around items much like a NIN's spells, and could be an alternate healer/enfeebler/enhancer type. Dancer could be alright-- a BRD/MNK hybrid? I dunno. Maybe Templar could be a new tank of some sort...

Bah, now I'm just rambling and this post has gotten way too long. Forgive me my long-windedness. I'll go now. XD

I think it's HIGHLY unlikely there will be any new jobs in expansion. As a few have mentioned not every expansion has had new jobs, just 2 out of 3. As for Time Mage etc...it just wouldn't make any sense. There aren't that many spells left that aren't already in XI they could implement to make Time Mage stand on it's own and justify making it a job.

Geomancer is the only job left really they could add and actually make a job out of it. Mediator = BST, Dancer = Moving BRD, Lancer = DRG, Time Mage = combo of WHM and RDM spells, Mime = No point in any FF, Chemist = Alchemy craft main? >.> What's the point? Geomancer would actually have spells not available already and wouldn't be a rehash of a job and/or spells already in game. But I rant...I still don't see new jobs in this expansion. =P

I'm not too psyched from what I've seen but hey, noone knows jack yet. But judging from pics etc....I see rehashed areas and what not (who cares what time frame they're in? >.>) I also see it being a lil soon too even if it isn't for months from now. There's plenty of content in AU and they haven't even finished the story line yet, and what about Assault/Salvage? I say give it a year then drop a fully fleshed out and ready to drop expansion.

My two (k) cents. =P

I READ THAT SE IS GUNA MAKE UPGRADED JOBS.... IT WORKS LIKE THIS!!! *THIS IS ONLY OBTAINABLE AFTER A QUEST USING 100 PEOPLE!! LIKE! RDM >>> RED WIZARD OR KNIGHT DEPENDING IF U WANT MORE MELEE OR MAGIC! AND BLM >>> BLACK WIZARD! OMFGOMFGOMFG IT'S GUNA BE AMAZING!!!! omfglmaoroflcopter

ok i lied about all of that, but hey it'd be pretty cool anyway. i hope this expansion is amazingly amazing:-)

No.... Do you watch the story unfold with your eyes closed?

Let's face it - FF doesn't stray too far from its roots. Looking at previous titles, the remaining jobs are Time Mage, Mystic Knight, Chemist, Geomancer, and Mime.

I think Time Mage is pretty much a done deal, considering the theme of the new expansion.

Chemist is also very likely I think, seeing how SE loves consumables that keep the economy flowing.

Mystic Knight seems questionable, as RDM of FFXI is pretty similar. I could still see it being altered enough to be added into the game though.

The least likely are Mime and Geomancer I believe. I think a Mime job would be too vague, without any real significant purpose. Geomancer would perhaps be ineffective in FFXI, as the mobs are generally strong to their surrounding elements.

If I really had to hazard a guess, it would be Time Mage, Chemist, and a brand new job(similar to ToAU). I do believe there will be 3 new jobs though, as they have done with every expansion thus far.

Here is my idea on the whole thing
as we've seen in the movie it shows current areas than how they used to look like Saruta under Yagudo Control

But Yes, it will be before crystal war, why everything is still functionable and not destroyed lol. But this also means that the beastmen will be in full power, as after seeing the 3 beastmen strongholds in the movie when they flash quickly.

Also I think/hope it will be something along the lines of:

Galka capital in Altepa not covered by sands.
Windurst not flooded anymore (Yags flooded when invaded it said ;o)
Also Tavnazia will be in it's fullest glory i'm thinking.
Zilart extinct still?
New Abilities only available in that era? (Magic power WAS afterall powered by the functioning towers windurst built.

And that's just some thing i thought of.
I doubt SE will be making any new jobs soon, because when i think about it, there are 18 jobs out currently, perfect for a full alliance.
I heard ppl talking about new crafts but than thought to myself - "What would they make.. everything can be made XD"

New summon? I wish, but in the Summoner story line, back then they were illegal magics and forbidden or some crap like that lol. But maybe the guy who found out how to control one has some new tricks?

But yes, i think the main thing to look forward in this will be the Beastmen at full Capacity :D

put my post in a weird place

Edited, May 14th 2007 6:56pm by Slythro

Hmmm... that is acually a very interesting idea. I would not be suprised if something along those lines was in the works.

For all intents and purposes, regardless of their long term goals, Elad'Narche and Kam'Lanaut would actually be good guys at that point in time. They developed the duchy, introduced the world to crystal synthesis, crystal power (which led to the development of airships), forged an alliance between the four nations which is the only reason they actually won the crystal war. So, if anything, you'd actually be fighting alongside them at that point.

I just really, really, really, really hope it's one continuous past world that you travel to and fro between one or two points, not like dismembered areas that you travel to through the same area. Like, if you want past-Pashow, you must go to Pashow. Instead I would prefer the whole past world be one continous body you can travel through. And more than anything I want to see the whole Penninsula and Tavnazia as a playable city.

SE has never come out and said "No, this job will not be made" and then made the job. There is a BIG difference between vaugeness and misleading and flat out denying something.

And I REALLY don't want Odin, because he would be yet ANOTHER dark avatar. I'd rather have Alexander, though he is awfly big. They DO have a charactor model for him though... so who knows.

Ready for a bunch of wild hopes on new jobs?!

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Geomancer! Sort of like an alternate blm with spells based on current geographical position... SE could make it work. Maybe let it be a more melee'ish job than the others.. Sort of like blu is now, in an alternate way, except still good just backline. I think Geomancers use staves...? I think they have the potential to be a verrryyy cool job, unique, fun.

Next..! Mystic Knight: Half-way knight thing between drk + pld (think blm-rdm-whm) althoughhh drk has already got enfeebling FORGET IT!

Think of them doing thie; damage/enfeebling using enhancement spells on a Great-sword, (yeah I know they used 1-handed swords but nobody REALLY uses Great-sword at the moment and I love Great-sword so shhh ;_;) because blah.. When you think of en-elemental spells you think yeah... A nice bit of extra damage for a rdm or /rdm. These guys would make awesome use on it, every hit doing some sort of status and damage and etc with quick changes between certain spells, en-elemental spell AoE on party, etc! (give it a few un-used Summoner BP's except more efficient.)

Uh... Time mage I geuss they could make it work... Haste II, Slowga! XD

Alchemist for uber huggeeeee MP spells involving many crazy -aga's that you would probably never use but would be massive and flashy and burn your eyes and go "OMFGOMFG ALCHEMIST WAAOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHLOL" or something like that.

Oh and of courseeeeeeeeee...

MOOGLE KNIGHT!

But seriously...

I would love to see Mystic Knight and Geomancer as new jobs. Geomancer, if made well, would be the only mage I would actually think of playing lol. If Mystic Knight had an A+- in Great-sword then I would love to play it as well. I'm sure they could make many very useful, new spells for these jobs.

The support job/DD hybrid appealed to me a bit (COR) but I don't personally want to be a pirate using guns and rolling dice or SMN using pet.

Geomancer just because we only really have 1 magic-nuking job, and thats BLM. Geomancer would sort of be the alternate version of blm. I geussss you could say its like the smn-to-whm relationship, but only because smn was put into being the main-healer by the fact that at certain levels, their DD pacts just don't really do much damage (without the proper gear) and high MP with refresh.

I think those jobs could both work, and as for a third, blah. I'll be happy with these 2 ^^. Though I doubt it will happen... :/

Oh and as for storyline, these could fit right in.

Mystic Knight = Back before the Great War, Mystic Knight's being an elite group of special arcane knight's. However, most died out in the Great War, leaving behind two seperate strands of itself; Dark Knight and Paladin. (This sorta doesn't make sense but sorta does. Of course it would be different, but this is an example of how it could work. I'm not sure if drks and plds existed before the war...)

Geomancer = Also like Mystic Knight, an ancient group of strange mages who focused on evoking the power of nature rather than using colour magic. Like Mystic Knight's however, their small group was destroyed in the War, and because nobody reallllyyy knew much about them, the legend died away.

If WoTG is about going back in time as I'm assuming it is (assumption!) then we will see these job's, we can learn them, travel back to our times and bam! Run around in our grey-red or brown-rock AF fighting small rodents!

Sorry about the size of that, but its just a crazy theory of mine which I would really like to see come true. ^^