The correct latent abilites are:
Under 100% TP and at moment of weaponskill: 33 damage, +16 attack +5 accuracy.
When it is over 100% TP: 26 damage.
Edited, Jul 27th 2006 at 11:04am EDT by LyleVertigo
Blau Dolch
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I got this Knife. here is how latten affect works,
under 100% TP attack +16 accuracy +4 accuracy
But, whe u use ws u actually are at 0TP meaning latten affect work on ws's.
under 100% TP attack +16 accuracy +4 accuracy
But, whe u use ws u actually are at 0TP meaning latten affect work on ws's.
lol tribal monk, think before you talk plz. Martial dagger does NOT work in offhand it has to be mainhand for tp bonus and your saying some pretty bad combos.. crits arent that good compared to massive sata damage and wep skills so sry dude.
alexbadass wrote:
lol tribal monk, think before you talk plz. Martial dagger does NOT work in offhand it has to be mainhand for tp bonus and your saying some pretty bad combos.. crits arent that good compared to massive sata damage and wep skills so sry dude.
Most cases that is true.
However,
When dealing with mobs with very high def. crits mean the difference between 0s and no tp to tp gain without the use of /sam.
On the other hand, now that higher level daggers got a damage boost it may very well be possible to damage them without crit or sa-ing them (haven't tested it yet since update). Still, in those cases crit > damage (to an extent). Also, X-knife may possibly be better than BD now (don't quote me on this I think the damage on it is up to 35 now).
alexbadass wrote:
lol tribal monk, think before you talk plz. Martial dagger does NOT work in offhand it has to be mainhand for tp bonus and your saying some pretty bad combos.. crits arent that good compared to massive sata damage and wep skills so sry dude.
Most cases that is true.
However,
When dealing with mobs with very high def. crits mean the difference between 0s and no tp to tp gain without the use of /sam.
On the other hand, now that higher level daggers got a damage boost it may very well be possible to damage them without crit or sa-ing them (haven't tested it yet since update). Still, in those cases crit > damage (to an extent). Also, X-knife may possibly be better than BD now (don't quote me on this I think the damage on it is up to 35 now).
Forever? Even if ya got a chance to get an X's knife? Or Perseus's Harpe? Personally I don't think there is any dagger that *I* can stick with. Speaking only for myself though, everyone might have a differing opinion.
Some combos I want to try out whenever I get to a level where I actually *can* test it out (>.<) (woot for lazy levellers like me)
Heart Snatcher Main with latent effect cleared
X's knife sub (if I could ever get my hands on one) (>.<)
+Critical Hit chance, combined with more critical hit damage sounds like I could have some fun with it.
Another combo, Heart Snatcher main, with a (cheap) Anubis's Knife subbed, while poisoned of course.
Again with the criticals +13% with this setup from weapons alone
And the one I really wanna try out, with this dagger.
Blau Dolch main, Martial Knife Sub
You get the TP bonus from the Martial knife, (from my understanding about the martial weapons from a linkmate, they don't give you more TP per hit, they actually increase the TP value used during WS's, IE: Spirits Within 150% TP with Martial Anelace gives the same effect as a 300 TP Spirits Within with any other sword)
So with that setup, you're going to be wanting to get rid of that TP asap, and you'll get the TP bonus from the knife, so at 100 TP SA or TA then spam the WS's through the fight with whatever bonus ya get from the Martial Knife. Sounds like (Fun) and (Excitement) to me.
Or of course the Dream Combo, Mandau Main, Blau sub, "just cause"
EDIT: I got a message from someone telling me that the benefit from the Martial Knife would only apply if I had it equipped in my main hand. Scrap that plan. Time to scheme up another nasty dagger combo.
Edited, Fri Apr 21 14:50:05 2006
Some combos I want to try out whenever I get to a level where I actually *can* test it out (>.<) (woot for lazy levellers like me)
Heart Snatcher Main with latent effect cleared
X's knife sub (if I could ever get my hands on one) (>.<)
+Critical Hit chance, combined with more critical hit damage sounds like I could have some fun with it.
Another combo, Heart Snatcher main, with a (cheap) Anubis's Knife subbed, while poisoned of course.
Again with the criticals +13% with this setup from weapons alone
And the one I really wanna try out, with this dagger.
Blau Dolch main, Martial Knife Sub
You get the TP bonus from the Martial knife, (from my understanding about the martial weapons from a linkmate, they don't give you more TP per hit, they actually increase the TP value used during WS's, IE: Spirits Within 150% TP with Martial Anelace gives the same effect as a 300 TP Spirits Within with any other sword)
So with that setup, you're going to be wanting to get rid of that TP asap, and you'll get the TP bonus from the knife, so at 100 TP SA or TA then spam the WS's through the fight with whatever bonus ya get from the Martial Knife. Sounds like (Fun) and (Excitement) to me.
Or of course the Dream Combo, Mandau Main, Blau sub, "just cause"
EDIT: I got a message from someone telling me that the benefit from the Martial Knife would only apply if I had it equipped in my main hand. Scrap that plan. Time to scheme up another nasty dagger combo.
Edited, Fri Apr 21 14:50:05 2006
Server: Bismarck
Character Name: Mazurat
Job Levels: 75 War / 75 Nin / 66 Thf / 43 Rng / 38 Mnk
Character Name: Thatcrazytaru
Job Levels: 75 Blm / 52 Whm / 40 Rdm
Character Name: Mazurat
Job Levels: 75 War / 75 Nin / 66 Thf / 43 Rng / 38 Mnk
Character Name: Thatcrazytaru
Job Levels: 75 Blm / 52 Whm / 40 Rdm
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lol When I read this part I had to laugh >.> because you cannot trigger the latent on Blau Dolch if you off hand Martial Knife and secondly, you cannot trigger Martial Knife off handed... <.<
Tribalmonk wrote:
And the one I really wanna try out, with this dagger.
Blau Dolch main, Martial Knife Sub
You get the TP bonus from the Martial knife, (from my understanding about the martial weapons from a linkmate, they don't give you more TP per hit, they actually increase the TP value used during WS's, IE: Spirits Within 150% TP with Martial Anelace gives the same effect as a 300 TP Spirits Within with any other sword)
Edited, Fri Apr 21 14:50:05 2006
Blau Dolch main, Martial Knife Sub
You get the TP bonus from the Martial knife, (from my understanding about the martial weapons from a linkmate, they don't give you more TP per hit, they actually increase the TP value used during WS's, IE: Spirits Within 150% TP with Martial Anelace gives the same effect as a 300 TP Spirits Within with any other sword)
Edited, Fri Apr 21 14:50:05 2006
6 posts
Just got this dagger the other day, and it is by far end game material... There is in fact a hidden effect of +16 attack while under 100% TP
I swear this will be my main weapon forever
I swear this will be my main weapon forever
10 posts
So does the Blau Dolch has hidden effect of +5 acc also? Woo this dagger is godly. I am guessing the +5 acc goes away when u have tp 100% as well? can anyone test this out if you have the dagger >.> please
6 posts
no i dont think there is an added effect of +5 acc, if anything i think it may -5 acc. Soloing steelshells in Boyhada Tree im missing every 3rd hit, while misericorde+1 in off hand never misses
I think you're just getting bad dice rolls. Weapon stats like acc+ and att+ are applied to your whole character, not just the weapon. If it's like Maneater, the ENM dropped axe, then there's a pattern of these 75ENM weapons with the stats of +18att and +5 acc, with a latent damage effect.
Allright! at least my fashion shot is used.
Mucho Gracias
Edited, Fri Jul 1 23:02:53 2005
Mucho Gracias
Edited, Fri Jul 1 23:02:53 2005
Here's a thread that gathered some good info on this dagger.
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=10&mid=1117920628457777541&num=0
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=10&mid=1117920628457777541&num=0
10 posts
Blau Dolch is german, and translates as blue dagger.
#Lobivopis,
Posted: Jun 05 2005 at 12:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) How would you know this is it's hidden? More to the point, how would you know how much +attack it is?
Your attack is listed in the equipment screen, all you have to do is look at it go up.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 06 2005 at 5:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Increased DMG on your weapon also increases attack. Compare a sword and Dagger without any attack props and you'll see the difference in your attack, even though you've only changed weapon's DMG. It's used as a multiplier for attack.
No, what you're seeing is the difference in your skill in that weapon.
47 posts
Latent is TP under 100% AND during WS since that counts as under 100%. So it's perfect for THF. It has has a hidden +16 attack during Latent Effect.
3 posts
Bah I fudged the link. Submitted it to here. Maybe it will be up in a few days.
edit: lol, Dramanue beat me by 2 minutes and he actually fixed the link, too XD
Edited, Sat Jun 4 02:24:21 2005
Edited, Sat Jun 4 02:24:21 2005
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http://photobucket.com/albums/y260/Alexia255/?action=view¤t=Blau.jpg
Copy and paste into browser, it works just fine. Very nice. ^_^
Edited, Sat Jun 4 02:15:15 2005
Copy and paste into browser, it works just fine. Very nice. ^_^
Edited, Sat Jun 4 02:15:15 2005
I believe the Latent Effect is active on this series of weapons if your TP is less than 100%.
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