I don't know how true this is but i heard from somewhre that the +6% on the destroyers apply for both hands, so it would be +12% overall, is this right, cuz if it is, it seems a lil overpowered o.o
not quite, it is 6% per hand but it is not 12% because the bonus stays on the hand so each hand has a chacne to crit of 6% it doesn't raise your overall chance to crit by 12%
1st run Subduer dropped n stuff 2nd run Heart Snatcher n stuff 3rd run DESTROYERS n 250k worth of stuff but got destroyers not sellables
PLD MNK BLM BLM WHM NIN- most important for kiting
we slept BRD elemental seal + sleep 2, then kill WARR fast. BRD woke up kite it n GRAVITY it sticks like glue. NIN kiting cause any1 else die in a heart beat. and HOLY WATERS for cursna n nuke n kite- nuke n kite
I just got my Destroyers last night /joy! we went 5/6(wiped on our 1st attempt) and they droped 3 times. Double drag.FTW I'd like to say thanx, and grats to everyone who helped/got theirs. And yes, Kill the WAR 1st. NINx2 BLMx2 MNKx2 Really isnt that bad, we had a bad run the 1st try, but after that it just got easier.
What this means is the delay is +48....not just 48. +48 means you take your delay for your unequipped H2H ability and add 48 to that. All H2H weapons use this formula.
The easiest way to get these: Next time people you know do one of the fights for $$, ask if you can go up and grab a pair. Then ask if you can chill outside the party, in the alliance, and lot them if nobody else wants them. :)
Hey all i got these about 4 months ago, i broke them the second i hit 73. Anyway i have Crit fully merited and with my Destroyers i feel that they are second to only 1 H2H. But i have yet to play with a set of Faith but aside from full Relic upgrade then these rank highest on my list. To all the MNK out there we are probally the best DD around and just because SE messed us on new meritts we are still DD pro's. Any way enjoy if you have, if not i strongly urge you to get a set, look me up if you need anymore info have fun and happy fighting.
Hey yall, well I got mine like 1 month ago, when some friends from my LS went to do Copycat for Fuma, and so I went with them to do the Desert Storm, since we were doing it Manaburn style. Anyway so we did my scoprions and I got a Venomous Claw and then we did theirs and they got total of 3 drops out of 5 so I asked and I lotted and thats how I got mine. I didn't had monk lvld then but now I am lvl 72 and I am only 1 lvl away from using them and I am ready to pawn some mobs.
I think Copycat is hella easy if you do it manaburn style. Just have like 5 blms cast tier 4 magic and sleep after each cast with Elemental Seal and then redo casting and it will die fast.
no no no no. always , . . always kill the weakiest mob first. the faster you kill the weak (brd) dragon, the faster/better chance you get of jumping to the next mob before it awakes. This way your killing one at a time, its like chaining dragons instead of having a link. Think about it, basic tactic in an outnumberd situation.
If you go for the war first it will take a while to take him down, risking the other dragon to awake and might start resisting sleep and starts buffing the war and make him even more stronger. I know what your thinking, you'v done this and came out alive. yes its true its possible to kill war first, but all im saying is that there is, a betTER and easier waY!
Now if you go for the BRD first and sleep the war, you can kill brd pretty easly since its prety much cutting through paper armor. Once bard is down you can even rest for a while get MP back while he sleeps. This way you'l have one mob to defeat at this point its all in your teams hands to beat down the strong war class dragon.
I know this cuz i done this ksnm for my MNK's in my LS. Now we have tried both ways since some of my members think killing war first is easy. now i took all suggestion and came out a better plan. but like me as always, i always let them try first, since i like saying "I told you so" in the end.
WHM subs SMN for auto-Refresh and Earthen Ward. Keeps finger on trigger for Cure V and Cursna.
Not trying to mean, but since when SE release a new quest for lv cap up to 92? Earthen Ward is a lv46 Summoner spell. just wonder how you can get that for the current lv cap? Or you are saying that was SMN/WHM? if so, that's even worse, cause Cure V is lv61 whm spell...
Let's not forget the basic tactic of killing the stronger one while everyone's full and not trying to tackle it after everyone's hp and mp are depleted.
no no no no. always , . . always kill the weakiest mob first. the faster you kill the weak (brd) dragon, the faster/better chance you get of jumping to the next mob before it awakes. This way your killing one at a time, its like chaining dragons instead of having a link. Think about it, basic tactic in an outnumberd situation.
If you go for the war first it will take a while to take him down, risking the other dragon to awake and might start resisting sleep and starts buffing the war and make him even more stronger. I know what your thinking, you'v done this and came out alive. yes its true its possible to kill war first, but all im saying is that there is, a betTER and easier waY!
Now if you go for the BRD first and sleep the war, you can kill brd pretty easly since its prety much cutting through paper armor. Once bard is down you can even rest for a while get MP back while he sleeps. This way you'l have one mob to defeat at this point its all in your teams hands to beat down the strong war class dragon.
I know this cuz i done this ksnm for my MNK's in my LS. Now we have tried both ways since some of my members think killing war first is easy. now i took all suggestion and came out a better plan. but like me as always, i always let them try first, since i like saying "I told you so" in the end.
Ive done DD a reasonable amount of times and killing the WAR first makes it very very easy...
Super-Charged BRD its quite easy, Super-Charged WAR is a beast and usually needs to be kited, with DDs/NIN you can take both WAR first fast and BRD super-charged does not give problems WIN/WIN situation plus you dont need BLMs/Ranged damage to get a party ready.
IMO Brd first its not a better plan its slower and depends more on jobs you can take, War first aproach helps MNKs getting a real role in the BC and not having to look after BLMs and so.
hi i got these last night and have started to work them off, about 40 Skill Chains to go. I was just wondering if the dmg is noticeable the moment u get 500 pts or if more subtle?
Obtain 500 Weapon Skill Points while Destroyers are equipped.
Not all 500 points need be obtained in a single session. They may be obtained piecemeal over any period of time the player chooses.
For a solo Weapon Skill or opening any level Skillchain, you get 1 point. For closing a Level 1 Skillchain, you get 2 points. For closing a Level 2 Skillchain, you get 3 points. For closing a Level 3 Skillchain, you get 5 points.
Info taken from: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php/Main_Page
The only real way to tell if you broke latent is that you do higher damage.
ok ive read some of these posts nd im still not sure how ya get the Latent. is it 500ws to get the +18dmg and critical hit rate +6% or 500ws before u lose it and go to the +5dmg?
Double Dragon can be stupid easy if you have the right people. You dont need to kite, just have the rdm ES Sleepga to open it up, then get that WAR dragon dead
Gotta watch curse, erase and Cure IV for the NIN should be one after another and really fast.
Copy is a bit tougher, for copycat having a whm, or a mnk is bad news.
well we finally did DD 3-3 and got Destroyers 1-3. Rdm, Blm,Whm,Mnk, Sam, Nin. All 75. Slept the War, then melee the Brd.
We then had the Rdm and Blm kite the War while I/Mnk Chi blasted when I could and they slept, gravity, bind and Blm and Rdm Nuke ..mostly Blm. I would not advise meleeing the War as his aoe will kill all of you
Ok, so I had enough KSs for 2 Copycat runs. 1st run, KSNM LS BLM PT wipes. I rushed back to Jeuno to get my 2nd orb. Upon returning one of the KSNM LS members says to ppl waiting, "Destroyers dropped, customer doesn't want, who here wants?" Naturally I jumped at the opportunity, but so did another person waiting. KSNM LS member asked us to /random for it. The other guy rolled 400-something, I rolled 200-something... "DAMMIT!". Then another KSNM LS members says, "Give them to Minsc, we lost his orb. "WOOTZ!!" Chalk one up for karma.
Now, from 65-73 I used Shiva's Claws. I know what ya'll are thinkin', "Shiva's Claws?!?. But with the right equipment, these things work great, not to mention they're free! After finally hit 73 I began working off latent. With claws I was hitting 80-100 off EP ants just outside Kufkul (SP?) Tunnel entrance, with Destroyers, 40-60. Not great, but I expected that with DMG:+5.
After a week or so of Skill Up PTs and SCing with NPC I finally unlocked! Now I hit for 100-120 off the EP ants and I seem to crit hit every other hit (I've maxed out merits on crit hits also)! Now I can't wait to try these godly weaps in an actual PT!
Moral of the story...
To those that think they suck or that the latent's not unlocking after days or weeks of trying, DON'T GIVE UP! I to thought the latent would never unlock. You won't regret the time you invested in them.
I've had these for 2 weeks ... Haven't taken them off ... I play for 7 hrs a day ... This latent better not be off or these weapons suck ... I put on Indra Katars in my static burn last sunday ... The dmg was 40-50 different on reg hits and 100-120 on Crits ... The crit rate was the same ... Please tell me there is a drastic difference when the latent breaks ...
Believe me, you will notice the difference when the latent is off. You need 500 WS points in order to break the latent, not 300 that I've heard some people saying. I went through the same thing you went through, Ceran, but eventually you will see a change in the damage. Just keep doing the SC and you should see the difference soon.
Just got my destroyers today, went 1/2 for runs ^^b
On the 2nd run, we actually wiped to it but everybody reraised and rested up to win! I had enough KS's for 4 runs so i'm pretty happy it only took 2, now I can save easier for a KS99 and get started on black belt!
Congrats!! I've had mine for awhile and I can say that Double Dragonian is the better KSNM to do from my experience in trying both Copycat and Double Dragonian. They are both pretty hard NMs but Double Dragonian has a better drop rate. I believe we went 0/4 on Copycat and 7/11 on Double Dragonian.