Martial Knife  

The update to this dagger was the damage. The picture is no longer correct (the same goes for all daggers listed in the updated items section on the main page).

Dmg:23 -> 27

so now for the most part, martial is still an excellent dagger choice for shark bite -> light parties.

Also, with the evisceration update (TP effects chance to critical) I would imagine it would help achieve more critical strikes with the TP boost, to make for some excellent darkness skill chains.

what was update on this dagger?

assuming logically you would have to use the
M. Bow for the tp bonus to kick in.

Not sure if this question was addressed, but since it doesn't seem to be Rare, if I dual-wield these, would both take effect and increase the power further of a WS?

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WHATS THIS THREAD PURPOSE:

Martial Knife
DMG: 23
TP bonus
LV72

its all about this weapon as:
Dancing Edge TP modification is not modifiing DMG just accurancy Martial Knife has not much use for Dancing Edge

BUT

Shark Bite TP modification is modificating its DMG

as u can see here

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/journal2.html?user=313276&mid=1099606680697846812

 
Dagger WS                 100%  200%	300%	#Hits	Secondary Attribute	TP Adjustment 
Wasp Sting		1.00			x1				More poison 
Shadowstitch		1.00			x1	CHR_30%			More bind 
Viper Bite		1.00			x1	ATKx2			More poison 
Dancing Edge		1.1875			x5	DEX_30%, CHR_40%            Accuracy 
Shark Bite		2.00	???	3.00	x2	DEX_50%			 
Evisceration		1.00	???	2.00	x5	DEX_30% 

as u can see its unproven how much is SB at 200%TP and that mean how much good is Martial Knife for exp party or any other conditions u use it

about 3 monhts ago i made my first test

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=10&mid=1117395279159633701&num=12

has showed that SB at 200% has modifikator of 2,1 or 2,5

problem was it varried too much and i was not sure just few days ago i got it

i have done today tests on tww mobs outside sandoria that grant me:

A) capped ATT/DEF
B) capped STRvsVIT
C) probbability of capped pDIF multiplikator as i used SA + SB = 3
D) SA+SB only first swing went off that mean less statistical errors
E) DEX 100

so my test was

gain TP with THF/SAM with two weapons

Martial Knife
D23

Stun Kukri
D23

than SNEAK ATTACK + SHARBITE on TWW WILD RABBIT

here are my results:

Martial Knife ( TP 100% + 100 from weapon )
831
853
861
861
855

as u can notice my highest ones has been 861 DMG

Stun Kukri ( TP 100% )
716
729
744
744

my highest 744

that was enough for me because i allready calculated possible highest DMG from SNEAK ATTACK + one hit of SHARK BITE in excel

 
DMG     MAXSTR     DEX     TP     DEXMOD     WSC     SNEAK ATTACK + FIRST HIT SB 
23      33         100     2.5    0.5        41.5    858.75                      

DMG = weapon dmg
MAX STR = WDMG + (WDMG/9+8) (thats weapon cap for STRvsVIT) = 23+10
DEX = my DEX
TP = TP multiplikator
DEXMOD = DEX modifikator for Shark Bite
WSC = wsskillchain modifikator multiplied with lvl 75 multiplier
SNEAK... = Sneak attac + first hit of Shark Bite dmg

this is calculated with TP 2,5 !

as u can see i obtained 858,75 DMG > my max in my tests was 861 it depend how i round my numbers so im extemely near real numbers vs calculated

numbers for STUN KUKRI

 
DMG     MAXSTR     DEX     TP     DEXMOD     WSC     SNEAK ATTACK + FIRST HIT SB 
23      33         100     2      0.5        41.5    747.00                      

as u can see TP modifikator is 2x
real number 744 vs calculated 747

once more time very close ....

conclusion:

SHAR BITE AT 200% TP HAS 2,5 MODIFIKATOR

what does that mean:

Marti Knife in best conditios where verything is capped will do
1037 DMG

Hoplitas Harpe
954,9

Perseus Harpe
993

in this test as its maximum for SNEAK ATTACK + SHARK BITE

this is calculated with "fact" taht second hit from multi WSs is calculated only with TP = 1 and not 2(2,5)(3)

The way the TP bonus works on WS, is that it'll add 100% to the ws you're using. For example when using Shark Bite at 114% TP, it'll give Shark Bite 214% TP. and if at 214%, it'll give it 300% TP. I've seen parsers for shark bite and martial knife and it's just plain unbelieveable.

I hear it doubles whatever your current TP is at. So if your TP is at 100% its 150%, and 200% its at 300%, but i dont think you can exceed 300%. That is what ive heard, sorry if its inaccurate

is this crafted or droped?

TP Bonus only works when the weapon in is the main hand.

so i gues this like the others r rumored to have a special property. They give your WS a bonus amount of TP. knife would be nice for a thief or ranger perhaps to use in the off hand. not sure how much extra tp the ws gets but headr it was 100%.