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I'm interested in this question being answered by someone who has tested it as well. I have a 75 SAM but personally I've always just went with sole sushi + osode, shura haidate, hachiman hands, feet, etc. Basically I've never personally tested the AF hands and rochi jinpachi but if it is possible to put them on, use shogun riceball, then put wyvern helm and hachiman hands back on and keep the effects, I believe the shogun riceballs will be better than sole sushi. Accuracy is nice and all but come on... not like we need much accuracy with meditate merited down all the way, zanshin, TP store, and a small amount of accuracy. 100 TP comes in no time as it is.

With food, hasso, and the gear I macro in for WSs I have about +65 str on top of my base str. I've noticed that even with this massive amount of str my damage isn't much higher than with +40 str. I've heard rumors that after a stat reaches 100 it caps? Dunno if that is true but if it is then the only way to increase your damage further would be to load up on atk. If that is so, and the rochi jinpachi + AF hands enhance riceballs even after you unequip them, then that would make them the best food for samurai once you get 100+ str.

So in short, does anyone know if the enhancement from the jinpachi and these gloves stay after they are removed?

-K

Ok. There are reasons why you would use sole sushi, and rice balls at different times. for example: if you are sam/thf you would want to use sole sushi, not just for the acc (tho it helps) but for the +5 str. sam ws's are 75%str and 25%atk based. so as sam/thf you want that extra str to make your ws's as high as possible. If you were to be a sam/war, then i can see to use shogun rice balls, your more conserned on dmg over time, and throwing out as many ws's as possible. I wouldnt sugjest using O kote's after lvl 70 anyways, the 70 JSE hands are awsome, and O kote's are up to 3-4 mil on siren server. so sole sushi with JSE hands, or shogun rice balls and af gloves are best. (my opinion)

i almost completely wholeheartedly disagree
i am a 69 galka samurai and i use OKote and Sushi for onc simple reason: more acc
boosting attack and double attack means absolutely nothing if u cant hit the mob in first place. Samurai's job is to get as much tp as possibel and, as we make very poor tanks at higher lvls (without serious equipment macros which seem to me to leave the job's specialty undeveloped while trying to enhance a small role it occasionally plays) the only way to get a good, steady rate of tp, is too have high accuracy. Though sushi is expensive, squid sushi (all the acc bonuses of sole at 1/3rd the price) is cheap compared to most of the high-acc gear post 60. Personally, i have all the standard acc gear ( 2 snipers, hauby, mermans gorget, life belt, etc...) and i still find that on IT xp mobs at 69, i whiff far too often without sushi. Perhaps mithra (and i think taru) who have naturally more dex have less trouble than I, but the fact is I wear 13ish mil worth of gear, i have +38 to acc ++10dex(another 5 acc for 43 total) and if idont eat sushi during xp i feel more like a glorified fanning boy than a DD or WS expert. For me there is no question that sushi is the best food and i ususally have 3 different kinds on me when i lvl (some squid some sole some +1) I dont buy gil, i have worked for all my goodies, mainly because i feel i owe it to my parties to get lots of tp, predictably, so as to facilitate WSing i.e. to hit as often as is possible. Fruthermore, the higher lvl WSes that deal the best dmg (yukikaze and gekko) are very low accuracy. Also, as i said before, without being able to hit, another 20-30 to attack and a boost to double attack (even a significant one) will do round about nada. Since sushi is, for me, necessary to feel i do my job effectiively, rice balls are out imo which obviously makes the af gloves useless (4 to dex is nice, but there are many many things better... like 20att) and therefore the best gloves for sam without a doubt are ochiudos kote (only other to consider are horomusha and we dont need the eva so mighta as well have the extra 5attack and 2mil gil). I have tried this, tho no extensive experiments have been done. I ate a riceball in a party with my gf (who made it for me) and i could not hit the mob to save my life (i beleveive it was a crab... mebbe a crawler) watched the food icon like a hawk adn as soona sit wore back to sushi, back to tp land, back to pulling aggro without even wsing. While this instance does not provide conclusive evidence, it conifrmed what I had concluded the listed effects would do.
Perhaps with the roshii jinpachi, the 100 or so attack and +10 to double attack (combined with being higher lvl in relation to the majority of mobs in the game) there would be more of an advtange to af+ riceballs. In fact im sure there would be situations u would use em in, but not vs. a god with <mega boss> evasion. Still, vs. a god with high defense, it might be your only recourse. I dont like to think of things as this is best period but for where i am now, galka sam @69, i am completely confident that the best food+glove combo for me is Okote and sushi. I would love to see a mithra sam show me up with crazy double attack rates and critical hits ( well mebbe not lvoe it lol) but it hasnt happened yet.

well let's say you are a 56 sam and you have 200 base attack. I know I have more than this but let's just put it out there as a number. Meat mithkabobs give +22% attack. This would be 44 attack for our little underestimation here. Add 20 attack for the kote and you have 64 attack. That is how 20 attack from gloves can out do 45 attack from riceballs and af gloves. The other stats that come with it; however, and their worth to you as a sam are up for debate.

I agree... but on top of that... they look good haha. that match the pants can't go wrong with that.

Edited, Mon Feb 28 13:05:39 2005

I think... for the gloves u need the boots quest flagged/completed and for that u need the blade complete i'd figure you'd have it all done, i went to guslam and he didn't give me anything until i hit 50, he didn't gimme the quest until after i flagged the boots...

I have both right now, AF Gloves and Ochiudos Kote.
Since I am only 55, I cant test the AF gloves yet, however, I have a ton (at least I think I do) of attack right now, so maybe I will benefit more from the 4dex the af gloves have.
Would be nice to sell ochiudos though.. 500k on Odin.