ok ok ok ... let me get this straight... 1 double attack is 2 swings per round right? So if AN attack could be 3 hits with a ridill AND you double attack does that open the possiblity of 6 swings in a round? and if that applies and you sub joy toy does that mean you could have 10 swings in a round? and if those apply and its not a joy but a krak could you get 22 swings in one round? What if you got a triple attack piece and its 33 swings in one round...
NOW. if you miss a round cuz yer still swinging from the prior round you end up not getten as many opportunities for the weapon to attack which in turn limits total attacks because you missed an round entirely. Wouldnt you rather have 2 attacks like joy toy so that you get fresh rounds on time with more opportunities to "Occassionally attack twice?" Is ridill better than kraken because of this?
Or is it all just about getten tp asap and unloading a SWORD or CLUB ws?? lol which means too weak in the first place doesnt it? im pretty sure a good war/thf with a Gaxe can deal out twice as much dmg as those ws in half the time. making them about the same. one being entirely possible for everyone and the other being VERY HARD for most to accomplish...
right ok its all clear now.
PS im not in school anymore and dont care about whats capitilized and where a period goes. so save yerself the replies... and while yer at it, save yer replys too cuz i wont be readin this again, just saw the crap on this item so far and had to add to it lol have a nice day
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There is a cap on how many swing you can achieve per "round". I believe it is 14 max. Someone out there correct me if I am wrong on the exact number; but no, it is not possible for 22 swings/round.
The cap is 8. You will never swing more the 8 times in a round. And you cant get more then 3 hits in with a Ridill or 8 hits in with a KC. If you double attack with a Ridill or KC you will only attack twice. The double attack over rights the occassionlly attacks x amount of times.
Even if your still swinging when a new attack round starts, you still do the dmg and get the TP for the new attack round. you just dont see the anamation for it. trust me, i have a Ridill, i know how this stuff work. Gaxe war suck compared to Ridill wars only if the Ridill war knows how to make the Ridill do its job to its fullest posabilities.
Also, Vorpal Blade doesnt suck, I do 1k+ ws all the time with it, and trust me, you dont see gaxe wars doing 2k WS very often. If people tell you that, then they are lieing. I outparse Sams, and BB mnks pretty easy, and those jobs own Gaxe wars. so get your facts stright on how they work.
Even if your still swinging when a new attack round starts, you still do the dmg and get the TP for the new attack round. you just dont see the anamation for it. trust me, i have a Ridill, i know how this stuff work. Gaxe war suck compared to Ridill wars only if the Ridill war knows how to make the Ridill do its job to its fullest posabilities.
Also, Vorpal Blade doesnt suck, I do 1k+ ws all the time with it, and trust me, you dont see gaxe wars doing 2k WS very often. If people tell you that, then they are lieing. I outparse Sams, and BB mnks pretty easy, and those jobs own Gaxe wars. so get your facts stright on how they work.
In the uh, Volsung Saga/Nibelungenlied or whatever ridiil and hrotti were the sacred treasure swords kept by the dragon fafnir...makes sense...faffy drops them both. I'm sort of wonder though - has anyone tried to dual wield them?
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Quote: "WARNING: THE FOLLOWING IS A RANT FROM AN ANGRY BLUE MAGE
seriously, why doesn't SE let us use any of the good swords? We're falchion and scimitar users, and they don't let us use ridill or seiryu's sword, which are the best from both classes of sword. What's goin on here, SE? Help us out a little on our melee abilities, they're a bit lacking at the moment."
Blue M A G E....implies caster....you should be thankful of the fact that your even as decent at melee as you are....be grateful that /nin is a viable sub job for the class and be thankful that SE didnt pidgeonhole you as a caster hybrid class subbing whm or blm,like RDM.
seriously, why doesn't SE let us use any of the good swords? We're falchion and scimitar users, and they don't let us use ridill or seiryu's sword, which are the best from both classes of sword. What's goin on here, SE? Help us out a little on our melee abilities, they're a bit lacking at the moment."
Blue M A G E....implies caster....you should be thankful of the fact that your even as decent at melee as you are....be grateful that /nin is a viable sub job for the class and be thankful that SE didnt pidgeonhole you as a caster hybrid class subbing whm or blm,like RDM.
This may be necro bump but I felt it was a good time to elaborate on SE's decision on this. At the time Bluemage was released and enhanced SE was entrenched in an RMT war, added to this was the growing evidence (proof) that HNM shells were botting Fafhog and selling rare ex drops for profit or rmt purposes. SE felt that to limit rmt's hold on the game that bluemage be left off certain items dropped from HNM's choosing instead to equip Bluemage primarily through ToAU area's and quests. SE was unable to create an equal/better sword for fear of making HNM's which they felt were operating as intended though abused, into undesired content.
SE later unsuccessfully attempted to remedy their bumbling handling of that situation by adding Zeni NM's to the game, along with Einherjar. Neither of which has any items that surpass Ridill in ability or potential. Although these issues could clearly and easily be mopped up in one sweeping simple change SE chooses to ignore the problem not out of Sociopathia but out of the need to save face. They will not admit they are wrong until something becomes a public relations problem ie. the problem makes a major internet or real world publication and gains international attention.
SE later unsuccessfully attempted to remedy their bumbling handling of that situation by adding Zeni NM's to the game, along with Einherjar. Neither of which has any items that surpass Ridill in ability or potential. Although these issues could clearly and easily be mopped up in one sweeping simple change SE chooses to ignore the problem not out of Sociopathia but out of the need to save face. They will not admit they are wrong until something becomes a public relations problem ie. the problem makes a major internet or real world publication and gains international attention.
What the **** is a BLU complaining about? Last time I checked you were basically the most overpowered job in the game. Get bent.
Added icon and fashion shot.
there is no confirmation that Ridill drops from Nyzl Isle. It was proved to be a fake SS.
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Ridill been confirmed to drop in the Nyzule Isle Assault by the ??? item.
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well ive seen the best of pretty much every job and id have 2 say the most impressive thing ive seen to date is a DRK/NIN ridill/kraken using blood weapon + souleater in ballista and killing 6 ppl, Ridill is the **** would love one hopefully with the new update of Fafnir being in that assault Ridill will be easier to get^^
Wraith it's people like you (Scholar status too LOL) that make thousands of people make fun of this site and it's ridiculous amount of pathetic trashy noob players.
It will be a COLD DAY IN HELL before a Blu would ever get a ridill even if SE did make it equippable by BLU.
****** noobs man
It will be a COLD DAY IN HELL before a Blu would ever get a ridill even if SE did make it equippable by BLU.
****** noobs man
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Edited, Feb 3rd 2007 2:58pm by KryptonOnGaruda
Edited, Feb 3rd 2007 2:58pm by KryptonOnGaruda
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They get into parties poorly equiped and are immensely slow with the tp gain. Get it through your heads, DD's are there to compliment one another, not to compete. Its nice if you want to know which can do the best dmg but if you go about it bashing other jobs then you're just feeding your own ego through a damn game.
lol, have you ever been in a WAR X4 party where they all try to outparse each other... there is no complimenting each other, its who can increase their e-peen+10 during the EXP session :P
lol, that jumped out at me, just had to.
WARNING: THE FOLLOWING IS A RANT FROM AN ANGRY BLUE MAGE
seriously, why doesn't SE let us use any of the good swords? We're falchion and scimitar users, and they don't let us use ridill or seiryu's sword, which are the best from both classes of sword. What's goin on here, SE? Help us out a little on our melee abilities, they're a bit lacking at the moment.
seriously, why doesn't SE let us use any of the good swords? We're falchion and scimitar users, and they don't let us use ridill or seiryu's sword, which are the best from both classes of sword. What's goin on here, SE? Help us out a little on our melee abilities, they're a bit lacking at the moment.
hey atleast you get to use infrits sword, thats more then pld and rdm can use
If i was a WAR/NIN with Ridill and Joyuse, Utuesemi would last for about a sec. on the mob, letting the DD to use a WS and end <t>'s pathetic life U.U
This is great for fighting the hume Ark Angel, HELL YOU WON'T NEED A MNK I YOUR PARTY FOR A LOOOONG TIME WITH JOYUSE AND RIDILL!
This is great for fighting the hume Ark Angel, HELL YOU WON'T NEED A MNK I YOUR PARTY FOR A LOOOONG TIME WITH JOYUSE AND RIDILL!
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Please delete this entire thread, there is nothing in here worth reading about this sword. i spent 30 minutes reading all of the posts there is nothing but job forum type of crap in here , ur all useless.
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there's a lot of silly people in here... this is supposed to be about ridill... which i'm almost sure i'll never possess, as most of you never will either. stop bickering about jobs. go look for a fight in "JOB PWNAGE" forums already.
Faf, will soon become my ***** till this sword drops off his dead carcase. Fafnir bewarned, your days are numbered.
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can any of you stop talkin about the sword and say how dmn i get it?
you will never have this, its like a 5% drop
Dude, look just above your post, it says it's dropped by Fafnir. Don't hold your breath though, I mean, no offence, but if you don't no where it comes from then you won't be getting one for a long time. Even myself, a MNK, knows the rarity of this item and the fierce competition for who gets the drop on the rare occurance you find it in the treasure pool. Well, good luck.
I was going over the weapons list, and realized just how overpowered this weapon is! So what kind of damage increase would this do for a WAR? 30%+ maybe? Something huge like that I would bet considering probably a doubled rate of WS's or so. You would think it would have signifigantly lower damag since it hits 2-3 damage (like kraken's club, and mercurial weapons) but it's 40 dmg is on par with other swords of equal level! SE usually balances everything out nicely, but I think Ridill is an exception.
Does it outparse relic weapons? Even with the massive crit damage capabilities of things like excalibur and guttler, I still think this would do better or at least on paper it sure looks that way (40 x 2-3 vs 50-55) O.O;
As you can tell i'm really jealous of you war/nin's that get this overpowered weapon, me being a mnk. I hear that nothing can beat a haste built ridill war's damage; i'd like to see one in action some day. Closest thing mnk gets to something like this would be faith baghnakhs, which are actually balanced - having a much lower base damage, only attacking up to 2x, and costing a crapload of virtue stones.
...Nerf Ridill! /flee
Does it outparse relic weapons? Even with the massive crit damage capabilities of things like excalibur and guttler, I still think this would do better or at least on paper it sure looks that way (40 x 2-3 vs 50-55) O.O;
As you can tell i'm really jealous of you war/nin's that get this overpowered weapon, me being a mnk. I hear that nothing can beat a haste built ridill war's damage; i'd like to see one in action some day. Closest thing mnk gets to something like this would be faith baghnakhs, which are actually balanced - having a much lower base damage, only attacking up to 2x, and costing a crapload of virtue stones.
...Nerf Ridill! /flee
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As you can tell i'm really jealous of you war/nin's that get this overpowered weapon, me being a mnk. I hear that nothing can beat a haste built ridill war's damage; i'd like to see one in action some day. Closest thing mnk gets to something like this would be faith baghnakhs, which are actually balanced - having a much lower base damage, only attacking up to 2x, and costing a crapload of virtue stones.
Lol did i just hear that coming from a Mnk? lol
I can say Ridill > Kikou for sure.
anyone know if blu can use this sword?
Nope, BLU can't use this. Least not right now.
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Wow this thing is amazing, in the right hands >.>
I saw a BST with NIN sub (odd) using this and switching between Kclub and this.....anyway to whoever said that DRK doesn't gain TP fast, after 4 hits with a scythe my friends can usually get off a Guillotine.
I saw a BST with NIN sub (odd) using this and switching between Kclub and this.....anyway to whoever said that DRK doesn't gain TP fast, after 4 hits with a scythe my friends can usually get off a Guillotine.
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whoever said that DRK doesn't gain TP fast, after 4 hits with a scythe my friends can usually get off a Guillotine.
that would mean he gets 25 TP a hit. which even for samurai with all their store TP gear is impossible. unless you meant while using a ridill. in that case ur still an idiot because you cant dual wield a ridill and a scythe (2 handed weapon) and if you meant that they used ridill for TP gain then switched to scythe for WS your still an idiot because you lose TP switching weapons
Edited, Jul 20th 2006 at 11:43pm EDT by SynergyFFXI
Actually, he'd only have to get about 19% TP per hit, since his previous Guillotine would give him a full hit's worth of TP and 1% for each of the 3 addition hits in the WS (if they all connect). But yeah, even that amount of TP is probably impossible for a DRK (and probably a SAM too). 500 delay only gives about 13% TP, so with such a high delay weapon as a scythe you'd probably need more store TP gear than there is available in the game to get 19%. There's always the chance of double attacking, though.
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Actually using a Death Scythe on a regular I get 14-15tp a smack, my best friend and roomate being said Sam with full Store TP build gets 20-21 a smack...obviously pwning me in dmg but are u figuring in said drk might actually have the spell Absorb TP and use it. On a side note, since this friggin forum is about Ridill, I can confirm Ridill + Joytoy pwns mnks, my other roomate has said combo... /cry why do I have to have the ****** gear of the house?
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Have people actually seen this happen, or is it just speculation? I was under the impression that there was a cap of 8 hits per round. I know for sure there is such a restriction on weapon skills, but I haven't heard people talk about normal attacks as much.
There was a video of a thf dualing ridill and k.club and getting off 15 hits in one round. 3 from ridill + 2 for triple attack + 8 with club + 2 from triple.
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omg this sword owns so bad. i can gain so much tp so fast wen i do tp burn pts and i use drk/nin. this is also very good for ballista, the dmg on it is very very high for a multihit weapon and i deal much more dmg then i would normally do with a normal axe plus the faster tp gain which results in chaos [which is good for me :P]
Occasionally posts 2-3 times XD lol sorry I couldn't resist :P
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wtf, triple post, my bad
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oops double post >.<
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wtf? bst can use this?
They can, I have seen a BST in Rabao with this and a Kraken.
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lol that must have been funny to see him fight
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