Waking the Beast  

Hey guys, wanted to give a little more information on the quest.

Rewards Not Listed:
Titan's Baselard (Dagger)
Leviathans Couse (Polearm)
Carbuncle Cuffs (Hands)
Ifrit's Bow (Duh)

Drop is 1 item per party, with a rumored chance of it being more.

The writeup says minimum 12 ppl required. This is true, however full alliance is recommended. We primarily went after the HQ primes with a full alliance consisting of 12-15 SMN, remaining spots were used for refreshers and/or BLM. I could see where a zerg setup could work but not without RDM/DRK, or BLM for stun support and elemental control. Elementals cast -AGA/IV repeatedly; simultaneously curing the Prime and destroying whoever has hate, and are refreshed (brought back to life or HP replenished) whenever the Prime uses one of the Merit BPs. This causes for interesting scenarios when fighting avatars that can already cure themselves. If I can recall fighting Garuda till 1%, and not being able to do enough dmg with the SMN that were still alive to finish it off. That loss actually prevented a cpl of ppl from meeting the Carbuncle deadline, subsequently, a cpl of my close friends dont have their Carby pole. But I digress.


Carby Fight is worth the drama. Fun as hell. I say split the alliance into groups for each stage of the fight. 2 groups for the 2 avatars and into 3 groups for the set of 3 avas. This turned out to be the deciding factor as kiting the 2 Avatars was killing our kiters fast. The Avatars in this fight are suprisingly low in HP. Your main concern is Astral Flow which is surprisingly powerful. Hopefully you have bards who can Carol the appropriate element, or someone /whm for party -ra spells.

When it comes to Carby, the only tricky part is when theres 5. my advice: kite 2 with the knowledge that the kiters will probably die within a cpl mins. reason being you will want to keep the 3 you are fighting in the 3 corners of Full Moon Fountain(1.Entrance, 2&3. The Extreme Left & Right of where The mobs Spawn behind the rocks). Kiters drag carbys in opposite directions in and out of hallway, all the way to the fountain and back. The whole idea behind this is to expose as few ppl as possible to multiple searing lights. It is quite possible to recover without death from a single SL, but 2-3 in rapid succession will wipe you.

"Rapid Succession" you say? Yes. It seems with this fight the Avatars Astral Flows are somewhat coordinated. I believe it is connected to their HP. The avatars will Astral Flow together when there are more than one. It seems that in the event one of them is close to being KOd or has just been KOd is what triggers AF. So when you get close to killing one... let the other pt know b/c that should give some ppl a chance to run for safety leaving the tank, or if you go the smn route to stay further away :p

Ok, ok, i gotta go soon so ill wrap it up.

Order of Difficulty IMO of HQ Primes(Hardest to Easiest) with the least amt of ppl we have ever beat it with:
Garuda (16)
Shiva (16)
Leviathan (15)
Ramuh (15)
Titan (12)
Ifrit (12)

I think Ifrit was beat in like 8 mins one time... it was sad.

We had to implement a "Wave" System against Ramuh *Thanks to Chelsea for the help* because paralyzed avatars are pretty useless. Half of the alliance would assault the other half would rest.

The whispers and eyes are 2 different things and they have nothing to do with each other.

The rainbow resonator will not replace tuning forks.

2 bows and 1 baselard dropped for us.

*THEORY*

I believe in order to get the max 3 drops from this BC there has to be 1 person who needs the quest in each party of the alliance. This is why you will see the drops range from 1-3. I have never heard of this fight dropping more than 3. Jinirin, BtL's SMN, told me its possible the drop #s could be based off of the total # of new ppl, but I have not confirmed this beings as everyone in our alliance was "new" by definition. another interesting tidbit is the items didnt show up in the treasure pool until the respective pts were done with the ending CS. meaning, not all 3 items showed up in the treasure pool they kinda appeared one at a time, indicating to me that they corresponded to a particular member exiting the BC and completing CS, perhaps the pt leader. idk.

*THEORY*

After Completing the Carby BC you do not have to redo the HQ PRIMES. However, like the HQ Primes will need someone who has the Resonator, but not the corresponding eye to initiate battle. If my first theory is right then you will have to find 3 new ppl everytime in order to farm this BC.

Meh... idk... if theres anything else you are wondering about, let me know. Ryuko's write up helps alot, as well.

Dyminh

Edited, Jul 25th 2007 11:53pm by Dyminh

I have some questions. It seems that the Ifrit Bow is not a reward item similar to the other avatar fights. Am I correct, and is the Ifrit Bow a random drop which isn't 100% during the final fight? Also, do you need to get the Eye of flames, tremors, etc. key item each time you want to do the final fight? Or do you get the key items once only, and are able to do the fights after the timer requirement lets you?

iirc, when this quest first came out and some info was actually found out about it, there was confirmation that you could trade the Faded Ruby to the ??? in LaTheine which started the quest, and you would get Carbuncle's Staff. That is all i remember unfortunately >.< good luck