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Realm:Jeuno
Start Area: Waughroon Shrine
Start NPC:Shami (H - 8)
Type:BCNM
Max Party:6
Related Areas:Palborough Mines
Related Mobs:Time Bomb
Max Level:50
Rating
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Items Required:Comet Orb
Items Granted:Desert Belt
Fire Spirit Pact
Forest Belt
Jungle Belt
Kageboshi
Light Spirit Pact
Ocean Belt
Odenta
Scroll of Freeze
Scroll of Quake
Scroll of Raise
Scroll of Regen II
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This Quest is Repeatable
Last Updated: Mon Dec 5 12:56:01 2011

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Battle Notes

To begin, trade 50 Beastmen Seals to Shami at (H-8) in Port Jeuno in order to obtain the Rare/Ex item Comet Orb. Upon receiving the orb, make your way to the Waughroon Shrine zone located in the Palborough Mines dungeon.

Be advised that six players can enter the battlefield, that their levels will be capped at level 50, and that there is a 30 minute time limit that starts the moment the orb trader enters the battlefield.

Upon entering the battlefield, you will find Time Bomb, a single bomb type mob.

While the Time Bomb does not actually attack the players, as soon as damage is inflicted on it, a sixty second countdown will begin whereupon if it is not defeated, it will Self-Destruct, inflicting 9,999 damage to everyone in range, and will result in a loss for the BCNM.

In order to spawn the armoury chest, the Time Bomb must be defeated within a minute of being first attacked.

Strategies

Because of the short window of time that the Time Bomb must be defeated in, damage dealing must be a priority. Since Time Bomb does not attack at all, there is no need for a tank or a white mage for the fight.

Melee and Black Mage strategy

A recommended strategy would involve two melee capable of performing a fusion skillchain and four Black Mages.

  • Take note that although logically they should be resistant to Fire elemental damage, they are in fact weak to Fire.

Upon entering, have the Black Mages open the fight with a timed Elemental Seal Freeze. As soon as the spells connect, have the two melee begin to attack while the Black Mages spam their best spells. When the melees have enough TP, perform a Fusion skillchain and have the Black Mages magic burst with Fire II. This strategy works best if the two melee are Samurai, because they can Meditate upon entering the BCNM (and then because of the 30 minute time limit of the battlefield itself, you can afford to wait and allow the Meditate recast timer to reset), as well as use their Meikyo Shisui.

Melee and Red Mage strategy

This strategy is similar to the previously mentioned strategy, except that it requires around four Red Mages with their Chainspell ability ready.

Upon entering the BCNM, have the Red Mages activate their two hours and begin spamming Fire II while the melee attack and perform Fusion skillchains as often as possible. Because the Red Mages are using Fire II as quickly as possible, timing for magic bursting off the skillchains won't be necessary. Once the Red Mages run out of mp, simply Convert to restore mp and continue on.

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# Dec 11 2007 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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heh this bcnm kinda reminds me of something you would see on saw "hello, i would like to play a game, you have 60 seconds to deactivate the bomb before it explodes" =P, anyway does anyone have any techniques to beating this? if so please tell i want to try this thing sometime even if it does get me killed
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# Aug 26 2007 at 6:57 PM Rating: Decent
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bombs are week to fire you ****
when you set a firework on fire AWAY from the fuse it either blows up abnormally or just becomes a dud. duds are good when you dont want to die
water and ice dont do as much ask any blm whos solod in ifrits cauldraun or bombs in general
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# Aug 03 2007 at 1:08 AM Rating: Decent
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anyone actually ever beat this thing? If I knew 5 other MNK's I would so do this and kick it's **** bad.
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# Oct 15 2006 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
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how about 6 summoners all 2 hour with ifrit or
2 sam and 4 summoners all 2 hour at certain times in ordert to MB
MAYBE?
# Oct 15 2006 at 10:40 PM Rating: Decent
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what if u used 6 smns and they all 2 hour with ifrit (bombs weak to fire for some reason) or perhaps 2 sams and 4 smns
Icarus Wings.
# Jul 06 2006 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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lol, I'm thinkin about doin this today with 2 SAM, 4 RDM, I checked the price of Icarus Wings...40K lol, this is on Titan.
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# May 21 2006 at 12:35 AM Rating: Decent
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the great thing about skillchains is that anything that mb seems to never get resisted, so my plan for this bcmn would be eather blm blm blm blm blm sam, the stratagy is that the sam self skillchains while the blms mb freeze, they they just spam thier other spells for as much damage as posible, would this work?

Also from what i seen mobs are not week to anything but just has high resistance to the element thats weak to the crystal the monster drops. but then again people thing that hate "spikes and gradualy diminishes" so whatever (im a pld, i think id notice if my hate randomly diminished, i have to create hate the entire fight to match the DD hate. duh.)
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# Mar 27 2006 at 3:26 PM Rating: Default
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Well if you want to try that out I guess. So bunch of rdms and mnks a sam and nins smn and the **** that does loads of dmg at once. Got to tell my friend there full of **** they thought astals drop from this I didn't think so.

edit: btw invisible wouldn't work even if surving = win explosion is magic like dmg blast through invisible sadly.

Edited, Mon Mar 27 14:23:30 2006
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# Dec 22 2005 at 10:50 PM Rating: Default
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About how much HP does this **** have?
I wanna do this...
# Dec 15 2005 at 4:19 PM Rating: Default
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Anyone up for this or Horlais Peak BCNM 50 on Sylph? send me a tell... names Famicomx
Idiots!
# Nov 26 2005 at 4:56 AM Rating: Decent
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When you post a comment do you read all the posts? Read the information before posting. There is such a thing as a stupid question! For example
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Just out of curiousity, has anyone tried using a PLDs 2-hour to survive the blast? If it works you can basically solo this thing every 2 hours and get all the items to youself.
If you read all the posts you would know the answer to that question, also because 50 people already asked the same question.

And please know what your talkiing about before you post. ...Bombs weak to water and ice?!

Edited, Sat Nov 26 05:11:35 2005
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# Apr 15 2007 at 10:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Shendokai wrote:
And please know what your talkiing about before you post. ...Bombs weak to water and ice?!


I agree. Please know what you're talking about. This Bomb is actually weak to Fire only.
Weak to fire, not likely.
# Nov 07 2005 at 3:47 AM Rating: Default
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Um..

Just wanting to point out that this is a bomb type mob weak to water and ice. Not fire like i've seen so many people state. It's made of fire you fools! It's going to be highly resistant to it, dur.

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Weak to fire, not likely.
# Jul 08 2006 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Hold a handful of fireworks, add fire.

Now try telling me bombs are RESISTANT TO FIRE.
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Weak to fire, not likely.
# Jul 05 2006 at 5:20 AM Rating: Good
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RE: Weak to fire, not likely.
# Apr 05 2006 at 10:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Dude This is the most retarded thing i ever heard some one say. You let your newbness shine. hear foo.
like totaly 10 points on the newbular scale.
lol
Hey douche my party went in all blm cast firega lol three hits like that it was dead..
PS first run we tryed water because some douche like u said hey lets try water lol.. Water did 10 points each cast
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RE: Weak to fire, not likely.
# Apr 05 2006 at 10:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Dude This is the most retarded thing i ever heard some one say. You let your newbness shine. hear foo.
like totaly 10 points on the newbular scale.
lol
Hey douche my party went in all blm cast firega lol three hits like that it was dead..
PS first run we tryed water because some douche like u said hey lets try water lol.. Water did 10 points each cast
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RE: Weak to fire, not likely.
# Nov 12 2005 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
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rate down for being sarcastic and stupid at the same time.

Bombs are weak to fire. Take bomb queen ring as proof.



Quote:
Just wanting to point out that this is a bomb type mob weak to water and ice


Also, fire is strong against ice, not the other way around, so using that logic, they *would* be weak against water only.
RE: Weak to fire, not likely.
# Nov 07 2005 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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Bombs have always been weak to fire. It doesn't make any sense, but that's kinda the point. Its one of the great "wtf?" things in FF.
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# Nov 30 2005 at 3:53 PM Rating: Default
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Bombs have always absorbed fire in the other Final Fantasy games. It's stupid but they are in fact weak to fire in this game.
RE: Weak to fire, not likely.
# Jun 19 2006 at 1:31 PM Rating: Default
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Well it does make sense to the point that its a balloon full of gas. I don't sudgest filling a balloon with petrol and lighting a match....
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# Oct 25 2005 at 5:30 AM Rating: Default
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What is this things Max HP?

Edited, Tue Oct 25 06:39:44 2005
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Ninjas?
# Sep 23 2005 at 2:25 PM Rating: Default
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Lol is this a good idea? Have a party with SMN, NIN, NIN, NIN, NIN & NIN. SMN summons Ifrit readies Astral Flow.. NIN uses Mijin (evryone) and then BAM BOM CRASH xD. If it dosent die SMN have Reraise to be safe :D:D Hope this will help some1 to do this!

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MaaTss wrote:
Lol is this a good idea? Have a party with SMN, NIN, NIN, NIN, NIN & NIN. SMN summons Ifrit readies Astral Flow.. NIN uses Mijin (evryone) and then BAM BOM CRASH xD. If it dosent die SMN have Reraise to be safe :D:D Hope this will help some1 to do this!

Edited, Fri Sep 23 15:41:11 2005


the problem with NINs using Mijin Gakure is that the damage is proportional to the NINs HP and the mob has 9999 HP so you would need 10 NINs with 1,000 HP each to make that work.
stupid idea
# Aug 21 2005 at 6:38 PM Rating: Default
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Hmmm, the idea might be stupid, but is this soloable for a WHM?

Go in
cast reraise
attack the bomb
let it blow up, die
use reraise

Bomb is blown, you live. Just a stupid theory, anyone tested this or got an idea if it works?
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RE: stupid idea
# Oct 25 2005 at 5:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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The post before your states it has to be killed by a PC. If it self-destructs you lose.
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# Aug 19 2005 at 9:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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There is no possible way to survive the bomb blast unless you are out of the radius in which case you still lose because it has to be killed by a PC. Once the timer starts it cannot be stopped. Sleep, stun ect. ect. I don't know if Invincible would prevent death, but honestly, it doesn't matter.
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# Aug 07 2005 at 1:32 AM Rating: Default
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how big is the range on his explosion? and can pld block it w/ 2hr and/or cover someone? or can 1 person run in and others run as far away as possible to avoid damage?
Win.
# Jul 12 2005 at 12:51 AM Rating: Decent
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6 monks. all boost and chi blast hit hundred fists and go in swinging.
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NIN 2 hour
# May 15 2005 at 10:34 PM Rating: Decent
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If a Ninja were to 2 hour on the bomb right b4 it's about to blow, and throw in some BLMs think they can win?
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# May 12 2005 at 8:40 PM Rating: Default
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how many bombs u fight for this BCNM?
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# May 01 2005 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I attempted this fight at the Hawaii iGames . . . party got blown up for 16,000 damage each ><
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# May 02 2008 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey i was at that event, the taru WHM had RR and they said they won because of it.... though i would of called it a loss.
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# Mar 18 2005 at 7:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Just a thought, but im of the firm belief that instead of sam sam rdm rdm rdm rdm, you substitute 1 rdm for a bard, bard 2hrs, hits sams with minuet march, and each rdm gets a learned etude, and the bomb munches on a fire carol, and then bard melees it for **** dmg =P from here on its as the 4xrdm setup,but with 1 less rdm, but each rdm doing lots more dmg/fire II and the sams also doing improved dmg. Any thoughts? Comments?
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#CaptainJSmith, Posted: Mar 05 2005 at 1:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) uh huh, i solo'd this bcnm today. <DRG54/THF15> killed the fool in about 20 minutes, maybe a little less after using Super Jump at the 1 second till explosion mark. Got absolutely nothing! WTF WTF WTF?! If square isnt going to let you do that, then id prefer dying after the first minute not going through the whole battle, winning, and getting nothing. This is actually the second time ive tried it, the first I didnt have a weapon so I couldnt kill it within the 30 minute time limit, so theres 100 seals gone, not to mention how F'ing long it took to get them. Square is going to hear about this though...
freeze?
# Feb 12 2005 at 5:33 AM Rating: Default
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Don't forget that the cast time on freeze is 20 seconds so you will only have enough time to get one round of freeze in.
freeze?
# Feb 12 2005 at 5:33 AM Rating: Default
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Don't forget that the cast time on freeze is 20 seconds so you will only have enough time to get one round of freeze in.
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bombs are resistant to ice damage!! =P
Freeze aint worth it - fire 2 etc is the way to go...quicker recast time and more dmg^^
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# Jan 29 2005 at 8:56 AM Rating: Default
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what if you slept the bombs when they were supposed to splode?
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#Daemius, Posted: Dec 27 2004 at 5:33 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SAM#1 2hour SAM#2 2hour
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Actually could work.

Read the above: Timer doesn't start until first damage.

(Oh, and it IS Elemental Seal, not Divine)

So, you'd have the four BLM seal and start their cast. SAMs don't engage until the spells are near ready
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RE: SAM,SAM,4XBLM
# Mar 12 2005 at 1:59 AM Rating: Default
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um just out of curiosity i think im missing an update here or something...but <b>divine seal</b> freeze?
#Daemius, Posted: Dec 27 2004 at 5:33 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Edited, Mon Dec 27 05:36:25 2004
SAM,SAM,4XBLM
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Edited, Mon Dec 27 05:35:55 2004
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If a party of a number of summoners [5-6] fought this - all summoned leviathan and all astral flowed the bomb, would they not win?
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just some input for people reading, dont try this x.x Bomb = weak vs fire not vs water, try ifrit instead
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# Dec 14 2004 at 8:23 AM Rating: Decent
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So heres a question...hypothetically could you do this one with 6 monks and have 1 of them pop their 2hr every battle and still win everytime or wouldn't that be enough to drop it?
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# Nov 27 2004 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
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All you people asking about if i cast reraise... if pld does invincible.... and what if i get out of explosion range please listen. It doesnt even matter if you survive the explosion somehow. No chest will spawn unless you kill him.
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if I can bump... bump x.x
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# Nov 18 2004 at 7:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I was the other Samurai with Marseilles and Sylvr.

And I can say, in opposition from Sylvr's sayings: it last 60 seconbds. When fight begins, the bomb says:
"60......"
and farther into the fight:
"20......"
and then:
"10......"
and then:
"5......."
"4......."
"3......."
"2......."
"1......."
( then you die )
plus, you'll notice that thge movie I made last 60 seconds...

The day after, we tried again: Sylvr D/Ced as we engaged battle ><

Now we're **** and won't stop untill we get it... even if drops may not be worth it...

reccorded our fight:
(you have to right click and "Save target as..."


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That D/C was probably the worst thing to happen to me in this game so far. But alas, the next day, Victory was OURS!!!! We owned this thing with at least 3 seconds to spare, and once again, my Chainspell seemed to last the entire 60 secs........ I don't know, I think it will forever be a mistery. Oh yeah, Horrible drops. Lol, as I remember, each member got about 9k in addition to the gil we got when we killed it... but it was fun, so I'm glad we did it.
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that link there does not work.
really P!$$ED
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Yeah, i was one or those RDMs with Mar, we all Chainspell, spam FireII, convert, spam.....DIE, my max MP is about 507 with Food, i was down to 55 MP and a sliver of life (from convert) and the thing was SOOOOOO close. Strange thing though, and some of the other RDMs noticed it too, this battle is supposed to be 60 secs, Chainspell is supposed to last 30 secs. Yet for some reason, we were still chaincasting till the end..... there is a typo somewhere, i think this battle is only 30 secs or something
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# Nov 17 2004 at 7:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I tried this last night with another Samurai (me being a 54 SAM myself) and 4 Red Mages.
Fight was going well with the other SAM and myself doing 6 Fusion Skillchains (300TP to start > WS > Icarus Wing > WS > 2HR > WS Meditate > WS > WS > WS [for a total of 6])
and the Red Mages spamming FireII (or so we thought). The bomb was down to a sliver of life left when it exploded on us for 10k damage.
Well as it turns out, one of the RDMs did NOT have Fire II (was using Fire instead), and that apparently made the difference in our failure. We will try again tonight with the RDM having Fire II this time ^^

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# Nov 09 2004 at 1:47 PM Rating: Default
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Just out of curiousity, has anyone tried using a PLDs 2-hour to survive the blast? If it works you can basically solo this thing every 2 hours and get all the items to youself.
RE: Invincible
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The Paladin 2hr "Invincible" only negates physical damage taken.

You would be blown up and killed by the bomb just as everyone else.
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easy way i did it
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i did this 5 times yesterday won every time.
i was using:
Elvaan Mnk/War
Elvaan Mnk/Sam
Taru Blm/Smn
Mithra Blm/Smn
Elvaan Bst/War with alchemist water that i made
Mithra Rng/Nin

we all had icarus wings every one attacked and we all used skill chains and blm wb with freeze and the rest of the fight they cast wateraga 2 and water 2. we killed this thing fast. for the day we all came out about 1.5mil profit. we only had to use 2 hour for the last fight.
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I saw alot of post about 2 sams and 4 rdm or blm. I think 2 sams and 4 rdm would work best. But the same shouldnt do distortion they should do Tachi: kagero to Tachi: goten for fusion (since the bomb is weak 2 fire) and just have rdm chainspell fire 2. u will get 4 scs out of this and a **** of alot of mb's to the mobs weakest element. Maybe im partial cuz those are the 2 jobs ive lvled high enough to have a good understanding of.
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#xxRIDGExx, Posted: Jan 22 2005 at 6:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Bomb=Fire based NOT weak to fire
RE: Sam/rdm
# Mar 18 2005 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Your wrong buddy ^^ bomb IS a fire based mob, you are correct. The unique things about bombs though, is that they are weak to thier own element. Fusion is the BEST choice and spamming fire II to mb will totally own the bomb.

[I'd like to point my attention to rollers post down below V.V Bomb are weak to fire for being arcana! Psh even rdms can learn something new]


Edited, Fri Mar 18 07:25:20 2005
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RE: Sam/rdm
# Dec 11 2006 at 4:44 AM Rating: Decent
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lol did you even ready my post?
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Hmmm
# Oct 22 2004 at 1:22 PM Rating: Default
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I've a strategy on how to beat this... however I dont know if it will work. Before saying "OMFG UR DUM ASS!@!@*~*(" read what I have to say at the bottom.

You can do this with 2 people. On stays on the BC when you spawn, the other goes in and attacks the bomb, thus starting the timer. It explodes, kills the one that attacked it, and the other is free to take the goodies and split them.

Now... this WILL work ONLY if the radius for his self destruct isnt a billion feet. I dont know if anyone is willing to die for gil (I sure as **** am :P) but I dont know if this will work. Might be better to test it with a PLD first. Healing for 30 seconds, then using Invincible.

Anyone know if this will work, or is it just a "explode --> kill everyone in the arena" instead of "explode --> kill everyone in radius".

Because AFAIK, as long as the NM is dead, and there is at least one person alive to take the treasure, you win. :P
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RE: Hmmm
# Oct 23 2004 at 12:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, just tried that. Waste. :P

One of us went, but died because of blast, obviously. On hindsight he probably could have ran back and I feel dumb for not thinking about that. Perhaps I though it would chase him...

Anyways it exploded and nothing happened. :(

It had potential.... hehe.
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RE: Hmmm
# Oct 28 2004 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
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So it exploded and didn't die, or..? O_o
RE: Hmmm
# Oct 28 2004 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
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It exploded, died, killed one person, but no chest spawned. We kinda sat there for a couple minutes then left. :(
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RE: Hmmm
# Mar 18 2005 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Yea chest only spawns if YOU kill it, for the readers =P
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Ouchies
# Oct 19 2004 at 12:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Setup- war, sam, rdm, blm, mnk, drk

all acc str and dex gear

buff, food haste etc before the first dmg..blm elemental sealed freeze..for 300dmg lol

Then everything went to **** in a handbasket

Everyone died...never thought a minute could go by so fast.

2hrs are a must at the start or it's impossible
hmm maybe
# Oct 18 2004 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
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Do you think a party of 6 RDM can take it?
my theory Open battle - Chainspell - Fire II - low on mp - Convert - more Fire II - i dunno maybe alot of dmg im not sure i would like to try though
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RE: hmm maybe
# Oct 21 2004 at 9:15 AM Rating: Good
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Honestly... yes.

You could easily do 3000+ damage with a chainspelling RDM here. Bring some items and you could squeeze out and extra Fire II. I doubt you'd need to.
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# Oct 17 2004 at 1:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Bartender just got pwned by Time Bomb for 18169 damage when he tried it with a party. Hehe..
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# Oct 12 2004 at 2:23 PM Rating: Default
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What effect would having re-raise have on the bcnm?

Does it kick you out after self-destruction?

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Honestly SMN
# Oct 11 2004 at 3:56 PM Rating: Default
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I believe for beating BCNM SMNs are easily the best for this just Ifrit constantly cast fire II and 2 hr when close to mp gone if he's still alive
RE: Honestly SMN
# Oct 11 2004 at 5:36 PM Rating: Decent
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that would be kinda hard, the fight will last a max of 60 secs, then you all die, and last i checked you can do only one bloodpact a min, so why waste a 2 spell on it, use all your 2hrs at once on it and keep pummeling into it
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# Oct 10 2004 at 9:21 AM Rating: Default
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Can anyone who is planning on fighting this run a parser to get some idea on the Hp the mob has? Secondly how about a few thieves with high marksmanship and gun weapons? A thf/rng could get off 2 SATA's in about 10 secs and then use sharpshot and begin to pummel with the gun. TH2 would be nice too.
Um...is anyone listening?
# Oct 03 2004 at 2:36 AM Rating: Good
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Bomb = Arcana
Arcana = Weak to Fire

Even if the Bomb were Fire based, that would make it weak to WATER, not Ice.

So the "Freeze Method" wouldn't be as effective.

You can tell Bombs are Arcana by how they aggro, they aggro magic. All arcana mobs aggro magic.

Now on to strategy. I'm a WAR/NIN (or at least I will be) and I want in on the action, so here's what I'm thinking:

BRD, RDM/BLM, ME (WAR/NIN), 3 More melee (MNKs, other War/Nins...doesn't matter, maybe 2 of each)

BRD uses Madrigal, Minuet, Requiem, Wind Threnody.
RDM uses Haste (on melees), Dia II, Choke (lowers VIT).
Melees use 2HRs, Mighty Strikes and Hundred Fists. This with hasted critical hits from WARs and Buffed Attacks from MNKs should do it pretty fast, could add a WS in here too that the RDM could Burst (Hopefully Light/Fire). Spinning Axe > Raging Fists should work. The MNKs can sub THF and use Sneak, or just go WAR with Berserk (probably /WAR is better).
RDM can also cast Fire as much as possible with Chainspell and Burst when the time is right. Since MNK is ending the SC it'll be high DMG from all that TP they build with Raging Fists, and RDM's Fire II Burst should kick some ass.

Other than that setup that includes me, I could see MNK x 6 or RDM x 6 kicking but, BLM x 6 would probably work just as well.
For the MNKs I might throw one out and pick up a BRD just for fun, but I don't know if the damage output would be better or worse.
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# Oct 03 2004 at 12:47 AM Rating: Good
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Bombs are Arcana...arcana are weak to fire...even if this bomb WERE a Fire Type Mob, that WOULD NOT make it weak to ICE, Fire is Strong vs. Ice.

Seriously people, do a little reading...

IMO, the RDM/BLM x 6 or MNK x 6 using 2HRs is about the best I've heard, and since Bombs (arcana) are weak to fire a bunch of Fire IIs should be nice.

To a previous post, I'm pretty sure with Fast cast on, the Fire I in between Fire IIs isn't necissary, as ALL spell downtime is nullified.

I'd like to try this with my WAR/NIN cause at 50 I'd get that second Dual Wield and can do some hefty damage with Mithkabob, Mighty Strikes, Haste, etc.

I think a GREAT party (that includes me) would have 1 BRD (for Atk, Haste, or Acc), a RDM or WHM solely for Haste and Dia II (RDM/BLM prefered for Choke to lower VIT also), and then the rest Melee for PURE MELEE DAMAGE TIME. Haste them all, Acc + Atk songs, Dia II, Requiem IV (sure, why not) + Wind Threnody, Choke, then all out melee damage with MNKs or WAR/NINs all of which use 2HR and RDM can cast Fire II like crazy as well.
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# Sep 24 2004 at 8:57 AM Rating: Default
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Revised version... 2 Sam and 4 blm..
Open with distortion sc, 4 freeze MB. Then for 40 seconds you do whatever. When freeze recast is up, you have about 10 seconds to do the other skillchain/burst and you are money w/o using any 2 hours.
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#kolidkolid, Posted: Sep 23 2004 at 8:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Get 2 smns that have shiva,3 blms that can cast a really good blizzard spell, and a drk or brd
teH roXor
# Sep 15 2004 at 1:43 AM Rating: Default
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Samurai/War x2 Blm/Sum x4

Sam's use meat miths, blm use melon pies, meditate up to 200% tp and ready for another before the battle begins. Samurai's pop berserk and here we go!!

First one Sam blows off his 5 weapon skills (100% tp, 2 hour, meditate) creating Distortion Skillchains, the BLM all freeze MB off of him. The 2nd Samurai rips off his 5 weapon skills, then the blackmages continue their assault. So we are talking 5 distortion skillchains (~500 damage each) and 20 freeze magic bursts. Who loves yah? I am just wondering what the recast time on freeze is. Otherwise you could alternate skillchains but you would have to be really good to do this.



Edited, Wed Sep 15 02:47:01 2004
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RE: teH roXor
# Sep 22 2004 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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If I'm not mistaken, Freeze recast is ~42 seconds.
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