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cuttings suck to farm
# Apr 16 2007 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
man, i really hate these things, since i don't have any gil atm i decided to farm 50 cuttings for my mules well, i farmed for about idk 3-4 hrs and got 18 of them -.-
My gardening results
# Mar 22 2007 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
40 brass pots, planted on firesday.

examined at least once per real life day. I am not sure how plants keep track of time. most things in vanadiel (such as conquest and GP item deadlines, at least for cooking) end/start at 11am EST but plants don't change their status after 11am. they change whenever. I harvested at 9am EST when my flowers were not ready to harvest at 2am EST.

Checking your plants 'once a real life day' might not be correct although it is probably 'enough'. I checked my plants whenever, usually at night before sleeping.

fed 1 light crystal on lightsday.

did not feed second crystal.

Harvested on firesday - full moon.

This is from pikko pots recommended recipe.

My results...

132 Bronze Nuggets ( 9 pots )
25 Tree Saplings ( 10 pots )
40 Gold Beastcoins ( 12 pots )
35 Rock Salt ( 9 pots )

I would say that this would mean 25% chance of each result for this recipe.

Overall return is good.

Next time i'll try something else.
Growing Sapps
# Dec 01 2006 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
I've been growing saps for about 2 years now, right after the big gill boom. (this is because plat-nuggies weren't being undercut by gill sellers)

Ok, here's the best way that I've found to plant saps:

My Stats
Pot: Ceramic / Moghouse Element: Ice

Recommended but expensive
Pot: ??? / Moghouse Element: Dark

Pot: ??? / Moghouse Element: Light (Yields Rock Salt Mainly from test)

Gardening Tech.

1. Plant on Dark Day (mandatory). (or what ever your moghouse element is. i.e. Ice, then Ice Day)

1a. The higher the moon phase % the better.

2. Check the plant minimum once a REAL life day.

2a. Check it multiple times in the same sitting (so hit that check button 2-3 times when you check it)

3. On Days it is time to feed plant. Check the plant minimum 2 different times. (when you log in and before you log out works good)

4. Harvest on Dark day when phase is above 50%, HQ yields on 75% or higher usually.

4a. Harvest on Light Day when phase is below 50%, Preferably when it's in the low low 0%-20% to HQ yields.

Hope that helps out some of u out there. I'm no expert and I didn't take any information from any of the other sites out there. This is what I've done on my own and it has worked just fine for me, maybe it will for you.

Average Rocksalt is about 12-14 chunks (not stacks) over the past 4 months and about 3 1/2 stacks of shell bugs (when harvesting on light day) over past 4 months.

If you find this post helpful, please rate up. It's my first post. I've got a lot of little helpful things post and will later down the road!

Happy Gardening!
Thanks SE
# Sep 05 2006 at 7:59 AM Rating: Decent
I Have been growing sapplings for about 6 months now and whene i went to harvest like usual i get freakin Rock Salt. WTF. I spend hours farming the cuttings and i get Rock Salt. This sux. I guess i know what im not doing anymore.
Thanks SE
# Nov 11 2006 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
213 posts
I got the same result, planted 8 cuttings, figuring if I could HQ #2 them, I'd get 16 saplings, sell a stack and experiment on elemental ores for the other 4. 5 of the pots produced saplings, only 1 HQ #2ed them, the rest produced rock salt. I was always told that tree saplings were guaranteed growth from these things... so wtf is with this result? If anyone has any insight into this, please clear it up, cause this is just bad...
Thanks SE
# Nov 20 2006 at 1:13 AM Rating: Good
67 posts
They changed it in one of the patches a few months back so that it would no longer be a garanteed sapling.
Thanks SE
# Sep 05 2006 at 7:55 AM Rating: Decent
my first double post

Edited, Sep 5th 2006 at 9:09am EDT by korthos
Thanks SE
# Sep 05 2006 at 7:46 AM Rating: Decent
my first triple post

Edited, Sep 5th 2006 at 9:06am EDT by korthos
Tree cuttings and shell bugs
# Sep 04 2006 at 6:36 PM Rating: Decent
986 posts
Yeah, I've been noticing the same thing too, thought it was a bug (ha ha ha!) at first because the first time I got shell bugs I was also inexplicably unable to pick a couple pots, even tho I had safe room.

But the % hasn't been too high, thankfully, but it still hurts my profit. In the last two 30 pot runs I did, I'd say about 10-20% of the pots yielded shell bugs.
SE fails again!!
# Aug 08 2006 at 10:53 PM Rating: Decent
51 posts
This was the one source of income I could rely on without competing against gilsellers. Buy cuttings, plant them, don't feed any crystals and you're guaranteed to harvest Tree Saplings right?... Wrong! SE said they were adjusting gardening during the update... and now I have a **** load of worthless shell bugs and only a few saplings. Barely enough to make back the money I spent to buy the cuttings in the first place. Thanks SE for letting gilsellers camp O Kote 24/7 while you stick it to the honest gardeners. </3
# Jun 17 2006 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
I've been lookin in every area i kno for ages, fought all mobs at least 100 times, and no drop! The only places I haven't looked are Konschtat, Pashhow, and Rolanberry. If u kno where drops are most common, please post a reply. (Thank you.)
# Mar 24 2006 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
1 of these is selling for 10k in Cerberus this sucks man actually the 1s who farms this ****, about a month ago they were about 30k each 1
RE: -_-
# Jun 12 2006 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
Try farming these rotten things! The drop rate sux beyond all! I have been farming them for like 16 hours, killed 12 or more an hour and just now got a stack. 44Drg/22Whm. I can make 2 complete passes (up and back being 1 pass) in Rollandberry befor having to rest MP. They do sell for 160-175k on Ifrit, but I can make better gil off of Silk (50-60k a stack). I only continued because I am too stubborn (stupid?) to stop. Oh well, I did get a couple of stacks of silk while I was doing it and about 1000 total exp. Anyhow, that's my 2 cents worth on farming these mud heads!
# Jan 17 2006 at 7:15 AM Rating: Decent
One stack on Asura is selling for 900K a single is selling for 60-65
# Jan 08 2006 at 7:22 PM Rating: Default
hahaha seraph, growing gold beastcoins? jees what a waste. Thing is if u wear field gear while examining it improves chance for ELEMENTAL ORES and u dont wear while harvesting thats 100 percent proven. Maybe not for other things like gold beastcoins but thats a real waste of time to...grow
# Dec 29 2005 at 3:39 AM Rating: Default
just OMG
# Dec 08 2005 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
OMFG I first tried to grown em like 10 days ago. Spent 200k on them and got 3 stacks of platinum nuggets (200k x 3) woot. Then i look back at ah for another set of cuttings and OMFG OMFG OMFG They are 400k now! WTF??? DOUBLED THE PRICE IN LESS THAN 2 WEEKS? O,O; OMG
# Nov 25 2005 at 8:19 PM Rating: Good
193 posts
Inflation has hit these hard, gorwing Elemental Ores and/or Saplings is now commonplace and everyones doing it, then theres the gilfarmer monopoly on them.

Bad news for gardeners, good news for farmers, I do a little of both so meh =P

Zi'Tah is the best place to farm these but theres usually gilfarmers there, not too worry though theres a wide spawn area and I find they're fairly easy to beat (well when contrasted with Mee Deggi or something).

Your best bet - farm and plant your own! =)
# Nov 25 2005 at 8:18 PM Rating: Good
193 posts
Inflation has hit these hard, gorwing Elemental Ores and/or Saplings is now commonplace and everyones doing it, then theres the gilfarmer monopoly on them.

Bad news for gardeners, good news for farmers, I do a little of both so meh =P

Zi'Tah is the best place to farm these but theres usually gilfarmers there, not too worry though theres a wide spawn area and I find they're fairly easy to beat (well when contrasted with Mee Deggi or something).

Your best bet - farm and plant your own! =)
# Nov 15 2005 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
78 posts
The price of these on Phoenix has been going up like crazy...a year ago when I started growing them they were 40k per stack, and now they're 230k and rising.

Tree saplings, formerly 80-90k/stack are now 330k, and I've seen them as high as 370k in the last week.

As much as I'd like to be able to farm them, there isn't much point until I get hexa strike; I just kill the goobbues too slowly.
# Oct 04 2005 at 8:59 PM Rating: Decent
I recently did a test to grow Gold Beastcoins with Tree Cutting and had very interesting results. I planted in 10 cuttings in Brass Flowerpots on darksday, fed first time with Fire Crystals then second time with no crystal and harvested on Darksday. Halfway through I decided I wanted to test whether or not Field gear would help or hinder the growth cycle and found nothing to tell me whether it was good or bad except for the results. The first 5, halfway through, I examined once or twice a day without the gear on and the other 5 I examined with the gear on. I reversed it for the harvest. Here were my results

Examined 1-2 times daily without field gear but harvested with field gear on:
1) 2 Tree Saplings
2) 2 Gold Beastcoins
3) 3 Red Roses
4) 3 Gold Beastcoins
5) 7 Red Roses

Examined with field gear on but harvested without field gear:
6) 2 Tree Saplings
7) 3 Red Roses
8) 15 Bronze Nuggets
9) 5 Rock Salt
10) 20 Bronze Nuggets

So it would appear, although this I will test more on, that field gear helps with the harvest but not much if at all with the growth cycle. There was a big disinformation campaign going on awhile ago to ***** ppl up with growing because they clearly didn't want the competition and I have been trying to prove or disprove of it. Maybe field gear works differently with different plants, Idk, but clearly for my tests I will harvest with it on. I have found no evidence that field gear speeds up the growth cycle and I have been growing for a long time now and have grown many crops trying to get ores and after many bad attempts and knowing what gold coins were priced at, I decided to try it. Soon I will plant 30 cuttings on 3 mules and examine without field gear on while harvesting with it. I hope this helps everyone and if anyone has any more conclusive evidence, plz post.
RE: Growing
# Feb 10 2006 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
plant these on ice day i got 2 ib each porslen(sp) pots
RE: Growing
# Jan 17 2006 at 4:34 PM Rating: Decent
67 posts
With my first time doing this, checking plants with gardening gear and taking it off while harvesting resulted in 1 fire ore out of 10 pots.

Now i'm going to do a similar test as posted above. i'll try to get ice ores out of this.

On Day 1, Ice Day, 19% Moon
While wearing gardening gear, i put a Tree Sappling in pots #1-#5. I took the gear off, and put a Tree Sappling in pots #6-#10.

For the next 21 days, I will check the pots 1-2 times a day, 75% of the time i will check on ice day, 25% of the time i wil check on a random day.
Pots #1-#5 will be checked with gardening gear, #6-10 will be checked without gear.

On harvesting day, it will be ice day, hopefully on a full moon. I'll harvest pots #1-#5 without gardening gear, and put it on for pots #6-#10.

I'll post results in 21 days. =)

February 9, 2006
Well, after i harvested on ice day @ 65% moon:
The first 5 pots yielded only platinum leafs and wind clusters. Surprisingly, the last 5 pots yielded 1 ice ore and platinum leafs. From this study, wearing harvesting gear while examining doesn't make a difference. But putting them on while harvesting gave me better results. This is toltally opposite of websites i've seen that tells you to do the opposite. Maybe they are speading false information to prevent competition. Well , i'm going to try once more. I'll keep harvesting gear throughout the whole time. I'll try fire ores and i'll post yet again in 21 days.

Edited, Thu Feb 9 10:47:49 2006
RE: Growing
# Nov 25 2005 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
487 posts
Seka, one of the most interesting posts I've seen, thank you for the info. It goes counter to the accepted wisdom regarding field gear, of course, but am happy to see you took the chance. Would like to see any further results you have posted. And grats on the coins...
good £££
# Oct 02 2005 at 12:10 PM Rating: Excellent
240k a stack on caitsith 2/10/05
Drop Rate Sucks
# Sep 22 2005 at 7:46 PM Rating: Decent
I've been farming in Pashhow Marshlands and Rolanberry Fields with TH1 subjob and farming for like 1 hour and I didn't get any tree cuttings @.@ and some friend who passed by killed like 5 goobbues and got 2 cuttings -.-

I think SE leveled drop rate and want us to spend our lives farming them and get no items in order to keep playing everyday so they get money while we're poor in the game T_T

100k in Diabolos the stack, 10k the single one.
# Sep 11 2005 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
I am new to the growing of plants... Can anyone tell me how it works or maybe a good place to find out.. I have about 2 stacks of tree cuttings that I would really like to start growing... My LS tells me that it is really hard and noone knows how it works... So any tips? if you are in Garuda server /tell milesmori! I am always logged in but not always at keyboard... hope to hear from you! oh I HATE GIL SELLERS also!
# Aug 20 2005 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
38 posts
I try to farm them myself but on the Sylph sever is nearly impossible Gill Sellers have the camped everyday all day, namely in Rollanberry Fields and Zi'tah. usually i can manage to get one bag for about every 20 Goobbues i kill, which is sad
Same lvl
# Aug 10 2005 at 5:13 AM Rating: Decent
i tried farming in Pashow, Rolandberry, and Zi'Tah...well from my experience all their drop rates sucks, but when im around the same lvl as the mob i have better drop rates(example if the goobue is easy prey or decent to me). But thats only from what i experience im not sure myself but it seem to work better for me..=)
Treasure Hunter
# Jul 29 2005 at 1:41 AM Rating: Decent
I was farming with my RDM60/THF15 in pashhow and i found my friend there as well, he was drk40/blm20. me with TH1 got 2 drops of cuttings, him without TH got 6 in less time then i got my 2, whats up with that!?
RE: Treasure Hunter
# Dec 20 2005 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
I think treasure hunter, gives you an extra 0.00001% chance of getting more drops

TH2 thf45 is a good drop rate
Not too hard 2
# Jul 10 2005 at 10:29 PM Rating: Decent
Sry bout the first post ... anyway this is my first REAL post . I was walking through to Jeuno after farming silk. I got this on my third kill as SAM48/WAR24 not that hard of a drop... I do always have 4-Leaf bud and Rabbit Tail in my inventory that may have helped maybe not...

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