I have done this BCNM succesfully 9/9 times with LS mate and friend. It is incredibly easy as:
THF/NIN(Me) - using utsu, bloody bolts (which proc the drain affect for 70 health a hit for me) and having good RACC+ gear on
DRG/WAR - just here to do dmg and lots of it
RDM/BLM - no special gear nothing fancy at all just has to know how to kite with bind and gravity which both stick almost every time.
we have gotten 2 boots and one gun belt which were only noticable drops really. I was just wondering for all who have done this what the drop rate of utsu: ni is on this and if they know of any other BCNMs that have a better drop rate for the scroll.
Petrifying Pair
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Battle NotesIn order to enter the battlefield you will need to bring a Sky Orb, which is obtained by trading 30 Beastmen's Seals to Shami in Port Jeuno. When you are ready, trade the Sky Orb to the door of the Ghelsba Outpost hut and choose to enter the battle Petrifying Pair. Up to 3 people may enter and you will all receive a level 30 restriction. You have 15 minutes to win. In here you only fight 2 lizards: Kilioa & Kalamainu.
StrategiesOne of the most common strategies involves a tank, a DD, and a kiter (usually a RDM/BLM). The tank can be either WAR/NIN or PLD/WAR. DD's are usually a WAR/NIN with a Great Axe or a DRG/WHM (for self-curing while the RDM is Gravity-kiting the other lizard). At the start of the fight, buff, eat appropriate foods, rest to RDM's full MP, and then go after the brown lizard (the one on the left) as the RDM starts Gravity kiting the white lizard on the right. Don't forget, tanks, to unlock target and turn your back to the lizards as soon as you see them ready Baleful Gaze, to prevent being petrified. Once the brown lizard is dead, go and kill the white lizard while the RDM rests up and heals. This page last modified 2008-11-21 10:03:07. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Well, I recently did 4 runs of this. Setup for both was;
THF/NIN (me)
BLM/WHM
RDM/BLM
The RDM and BLMs were different people each time.
I had 2x archers knifes, beetle rings +1 x2, and as much EVA gear i could get with RACC. The BLM would elemental seal + bind the white, the RDM would just plain bind the left. I would SA brown lizard, and begin spamming bloody bolts after landing an acid. RDM would debuff mine, then get ready to help BLM kite.
It probably took around 10-15 acid bolts to kill the brown one, and his ACC sucks, I did not get hit very much at all with my EVA. The white one is harder, but with both mages focusing on it with me it goes down easy.
Btw, i've done this BCNM a total of like 12 times, 8 sucsesses. The first 4 i did on DRK, no leaping boots dropped. The last 4, (only 2 worked because one person did not know what to do to kite, and another time the RDM was new to BCNMs, and ran in before we were in) and leaping boots dropped both times.
Who knows, because THF has the most use for the boots, maybe a THF is the key to helping get them. 2/2 seems a lot better than 0/4...idk about you.
When fighting lizards, don't be locked on. And turn around immediately is you see a "mob readies whatever" because it could be their petrifying move, and it is uneffective when your back is turned, because it is a gaze move.
That's all I have to say, good luck to anyone doing this.
THF/NIN (me)
BLM/WHM
RDM/BLM
The RDM and BLMs were different people each time.
I had 2x archers knifes, beetle rings +1 x2, and as much EVA gear i could get with RACC. The BLM would elemental seal + bind the white, the RDM would just plain bind the left. I would SA brown lizard, and begin spamming bloody bolts after landing an acid. RDM would debuff mine, then get ready to help BLM kite.
It probably took around 10-15 acid bolts to kill the brown one, and his ACC sucks, I did not get hit very much at all with my EVA. The white one is harder, but with both mages focusing on it with me it goes down easy.
Btw, i've done this BCNM a total of like 12 times, 8 sucsesses. The first 4 i did on DRK, no leaping boots dropped. The last 4, (only 2 worked because one person did not know what to do to kite, and another time the RDM was new to BCNMs, and ran in before we were in) and leaping boots dropped both times.
Who knows, because THF has the most use for the boots, maybe a THF is the key to helping get them. 2/2 seems a lot better than 0/4...idk about you.
When fighting lizards, don't be locked on. And turn around immediately is you see a "mob readies whatever" because it could be their petrifying move, and it is uneffective when your back is turned, because it is a gaze move.
That's all I have to say, good luck to anyone doing this.
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where in gelsba outpost do you go to trade the orb?
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
It's the hut. Idk the position, but if you enter Ghelsba, take the right pathway up, there's a big clearing with a hut with a ??? on it.
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i did this tonight pt was me thf/nin, pld/war and rdm/blu. this was super easy just brought a couple meat chiefkabobs and some potions but i only used 2 in the 3 times we did it, and the pld and rdm used yag drinks. we were just experimenting with these jobs and it worked out really good for some reason. we started out with buffs then pld would provoke one and i would sneak attack it while the rdm would kite the other one till we were finished killing the other one, then we moved to the other one and killed it done, so easy. but sadly no boots this time.
This BCNM is a joke. PLD/WAR BLM/WHM RDM/NIN. Got boots on 1st run. 2 dispels on the next 2 runs. Not a lot of money to be made unless you get the boots to drop, but fun and simple to say the least. Basically all you need is a tank and a rdm to kite. the 3rd job can be anything to deal dmg.
You don't even need a tank. I soloed both these lizards as THF/NIN
Of couse I had mages that were kiting the other one while I fought, but I soloed them without any trouble.
Of couse I had mages that were kiting the other one while I fought, but I soloed them without any trouble.
did it as NIN/WAR, RDM/BLM and a MNK/WAR needed Hi-Potions and food
did it 6 times last night 4/6 on the boots of course the boots didnt drop on
my orb SE owes me leaping boots
did it 6 times last night 4/6 on the boots of course the boots didnt drop on
my orb SE owes me leaping boots
Don't do this BCNM on Iceday if you want your Gravities to wear off after 5 seconds.
2x BLU/NIN and RDM/NIN makes this a breeze, though. I try not to do it with any other combo. It's just too easy. Got Leaping Boots off my first run :P
2x BLU/NIN and RDM/NIN makes this a breeze, though. I try not to do it with any other combo. It's just too easy. Got Leaping Boots off my first run :P
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i just did this like 5 times last nite and 9 times in total, setup was always BLU/NIN x2, and RDM/BLM (me), all in all its very easy, the blu's just nuke the left lizard (brown i think) w/ head butt and bludgeon, while keeping their backs turned and keeping utsusemi up, he went down in less than 3mins, i'm still kiting the white one w/ gravity and the occasional elemental seal+ bind, after the first went down, they rested up and beat on the second one. i prolly used 4 emergency cures in all of our tries, but i've nvr really been low on mp nor did I NEED to use a yag drink, elvaan low mp ftw^^. Current record holder in Bismarck. the only decent drops we got were Gun Belt, Sarashi, Cestes belt, an Erase (YES ERASE DROPS FROM THESE GUYS^^). very easy, but still waiting on leaping boots O_O;
Hello weve finished this BCNM 5/7 the loses we had being our first 2 attempts were my fault on explaining how the fight goes to my friends. so we completed this with a NIN/WAR DRK/WAR(me) RDM/BLM ninja was even gimped 29/14. battle starts as every one says go in buff up! iv been lvling cooking so i supplied the food. The ninja and I used Jack-o-lanterns (HELPS A TON! i dodge probably about 5 attacks from jus evasion alone). lol i didnt have much for mage a kazham pinnaple and all the pinnapple juice he could drink.
so after buffs rest til full. then ninja and dark take the left side and rdm up the middle. Just before we get in range i use berserk and then ninja provokes. RDM elemental seal binds the lizard on the right and casts all the debuffs on the lizard we are fighting. after he debuffs our lizard he casts Gravity on his and starts kiting like crazy. throwing cures every now and then to the ninja, and to me when i pulled hate. i was hitting for about 80-110 and i only miss the lizard were fighting about 2-3 times each time we have done this.
ok now what gives dark knights a fighting chance at this BCNM? BIND! i have my enffeblement magic capped and if the RDM needs MP and cant get a spell off i can Bind the White lizard hes kiting and he can rest(iv bound him every single time hes never resisted my bind). after we finish off the lizard on the left. i would bind the white lizard while ninja provokes just to take hate so me and RDM can rest. we switch between bind's while he works in gravity and i drain from time to time(being Galka i have 53Mp but juice is good). ok once full have everyone engauge the lizard(enblizzard rdm) this is where Paralyze comes in the best use. when the lizard gets low it apparently gets some sort of haste and double attacks like a mad lizard! I only pop souleater if i have no hate or if the lizard petrifies the ninja, in that case i need to get my attention! and i dont want to provoke cuz petrify can break at any moment and i dont want to have the lizard stuck on me.
Notes to dark knights attempting this- have enfeeblement capped once you take out the first lizard the BCNM is really in the bag! we used shadow of death >> blade teki for fragmentation on the first lizard. once the lizard is dead head over and help Bind the lizard so your mage can rest til full. if you ever pull hate (on either lizard) TAKE OFF BERSERK IMMEDIATLY! if you attack again and hes still on you turn away from him and cast some spells (bio/drain) you dont want to pile any more hate because they hit for about 40-55 each hit and they attack quite fast.
total items consumed
hi-potionx1-2 (for ninja) 800 a piece
jack o lanterns x2 (Me and NIN) 8,000 a piece
Kazham Pinapple (lol yea this is really cheap food but hey 3 int)55 a piece
Pinapple Juice x3 (lol RDM said this stuff sucked but hey it was free cant argue with that if we got it done)
hi-ether some times they go on critcal streaks and the RDM will have to pop one of these)
*****Items Gained***
Erase- 190k
Avatar Belt- 250k
Dark Steel Ore-30k
Lizzard Skin x8 - 2k
absorb INT/VIT - 1.5k
Lance/Dagger/Axe/Scythe Belt bout 5k a piece..
*Valefore*
were still hunting for the Gun belt and the Leaping Boots.
Happy Hunting guys!!
so after buffs rest til full. then ninja and dark take the left side and rdm up the middle. Just before we get in range i use berserk and then ninja provokes. RDM elemental seal binds the lizard on the right and casts all the debuffs on the lizard we are fighting. after he debuffs our lizard he casts Gravity on his and starts kiting like crazy. throwing cures every now and then to the ninja, and to me when i pulled hate. i was hitting for about 80-110 and i only miss the lizard were fighting about 2-3 times each time we have done this.
ok now what gives dark knights a fighting chance at this BCNM? BIND! i have my enffeblement magic capped and if the RDM needs MP and cant get a spell off i can Bind the White lizard hes kiting and he can rest(iv bound him every single time hes never resisted my bind). after we finish off the lizard on the left. i would bind the white lizard while ninja provokes just to take hate so me and RDM can rest. we switch between bind's while he works in gravity and i drain from time to time(being Galka i have 53Mp but juice is good). ok once full have everyone engauge the lizard(enblizzard rdm) this is where Paralyze comes in the best use. when the lizard gets low it apparently gets some sort of haste and double attacks like a mad lizard! I only pop souleater if i have no hate or if the lizard petrifies the ninja, in that case i need to get my attention! and i dont want to provoke cuz petrify can break at any moment and i dont want to have the lizard stuck on me.
Notes to dark knights attempting this- have enfeeblement capped once you take out the first lizard the BCNM is really in the bag! we used shadow of death >> blade teki for fragmentation on the first lizard. once the lizard is dead head over and help Bind the lizard so your mage can rest til full. if you ever pull hate (on either lizard) TAKE OFF BERSERK IMMEDIATLY! if you attack again and hes still on you turn away from him and cast some spells (bio/drain) you dont want to pile any more hate because they hit for about 40-55 each hit and they attack quite fast.
total items consumed
hi-potionx1-2 (for ninja) 800 a piece
jack o lanterns x2 (Me and NIN) 8,000 a piece
Kazham Pinapple (lol yea this is really cheap food but hey 3 int)55 a piece
Pinapple Juice x3 (lol RDM said this stuff sucked but hey it was free cant argue with that if we got it done)
hi-ether some times they go on critcal streaks and the RDM will have to pop one of these)
*****Items Gained***
Erase- 190k
Avatar Belt- 250k
Dark Steel Ore-30k
Lizzard Skin x8 - 2k
absorb INT/VIT - 1.5k
Lance/Dagger/Axe/Scythe Belt bout 5k a piece..
*Valefore*
were still hunting for the Gun belt and the Leaping Boots.
Happy Hunting guys!!
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just got done doing this 6/6 times. we had rdm/whm(me), and 2 war/nin. we are from the same ls, and all 3 of us did it for the first time. the fight is pretty easy, it went like this:
Pre-battle prep. war need defence food (maybe Hi-Potions if u are worried but we didnt need, rdm needs any of the pie foods and 2 pineapple/yag drinks per attemp, again Hi-Ether if you are worried but not needed.
-walk in and buff (rdm protect 2 on all 3, rdm blink, war utsusemi, rdm eat pie, war eat def food, rdm rest while wars wait on mp, then rdm uses juice)
-when ready rdm gravity the right one (white/greyish) while the wars voke the left (brown) one.
-rdm runs away and paralyzes/dia the brown one the wars are fighting. (helps alot, keep them up until its dead, pretty easy to do)
-wars just trade hate after shadows/vokes and do defender when the lizzy does pertrify. (turning away usually doesnt work and is a pain)
-rdm kiting is easy, never done it before until now. do gravity and run to one corner, here you have a few choices. heal the wars, Cure II or regen, recast blink on yourself, or enfeeble. also make a macro before the battle that has /recast "Gravity" and /recast "Bind" on it. this way you know when to do them. when gravity has about 15 left on timer, cast bind. (if it fails hopefully gravity stays on for 15 more seconds and recast it, your blink shadows will help) then bind again, after u can recast blink and repeat. remember 3 things though when kiting. keep an eye on brown lizzy hp/paralyze/dia effects. dont recast gravity if it hasnt worn off, this screws you over badly. and finally keep blink up. youll also have to drink another juice mid battle, this is needed. kiting is the hardest part and its not even that tough.
-when the brown on dies, the wars voke, and rdm parayles/dias, heals if needed and then rests. getting up only when the wars are hurt and rdm has enough mp, nows the time to do divine seal and cure II on a war. repeat, heal/resting until dead lizzy.
-wars repeat the beginning war strategy above and its over
like i said 6/6 times, we are also doing it 6 more times tomorrow. the drops were crap. 10k runs, with one run giving sarashi which sells for 300k. hopefully better luck tomorrow.
*an addtional note, you dont NEED war/nin, you can really pull it off with many combos, just adjust the strategy a bit. a blu tank or pld could easily work very well, use juices for them and they can pretty much heal them selves. drg do great damage at this lvl and bst can use tiger pets with /nin for damage. its really endless, just need a decent rdm. ^^
EDIT: i forgot to add with war/nin and rdm you can do a WS-MB that does half a lizzys life. Raging Axe > Raging Axe > MB with Aero, very usefull. try to find a MB with aero or blizzard as they are weak to these ones.
good luck everyone, hope i helped.
Edited, Aug 17th 2006 at 5:36am EDT by XackOfAsura
Pre-battle prep. war need defence food (maybe Hi-Potions if u are worried but we didnt need, rdm needs any of the pie foods and 2 pineapple/yag drinks per attemp, again Hi-Ether if you are worried but not needed.
-walk in and buff (rdm protect 2 on all 3, rdm blink, war utsusemi, rdm eat pie, war eat def food, rdm rest while wars wait on mp, then rdm uses juice)
-when ready rdm gravity the right one (white/greyish) while the wars voke the left (brown) one.
-rdm runs away and paralyzes/dia the brown one the wars are fighting. (helps alot, keep them up until its dead, pretty easy to do)
-wars just trade hate after shadows/vokes and do defender when the lizzy does pertrify. (turning away usually doesnt work and is a pain)
-rdm kiting is easy, never done it before until now. do gravity and run to one corner, here you have a few choices. heal the wars, Cure II or regen, recast blink on yourself, or enfeeble. also make a macro before the battle that has /recast "Gravity" and /recast "Bind" on it. this way you know when to do them. when gravity has about 15 left on timer, cast bind. (if it fails hopefully gravity stays on for 15 more seconds and recast it, your blink shadows will help) then bind again, after u can recast blink and repeat. remember 3 things though when kiting. keep an eye on brown lizzy hp/paralyze/dia effects. dont recast gravity if it hasnt worn off, this screws you over badly. and finally keep blink up. youll also have to drink another juice mid battle, this is needed. kiting is the hardest part and its not even that tough.
-when the brown on dies, the wars voke, and rdm parayles/dias, heals if needed and then rests. getting up only when the wars are hurt and rdm has enough mp, nows the time to do divine seal and cure II on a war. repeat, heal/resting until dead lizzy.
-wars repeat the beginning war strategy above and its over
like i said 6/6 times, we are also doing it 6 more times tomorrow. the drops were crap. 10k runs, with one run giving sarashi which sells for 300k. hopefully better luck tomorrow.
*an addtional note, you dont NEED war/nin, you can really pull it off with many combos, just adjust the strategy a bit. a blu tank or pld could easily work very well, use juices for them and they can pretty much heal them selves. drg do great damage at this lvl and bst can use tiger pets with /nin for damage. its really endless, just need a decent rdm. ^^
EDIT: i forgot to add with war/nin and rdm you can do a WS-MB that does half a lizzys life. Raging Axe > Raging Axe > MB with Aero, very usefull. try to find a MB with aero or blizzard as they are weak to these ones.
good luck everyone, hope i helped.
Edited, Aug 17th 2006 at 5:36am EDT by XackOfAsura
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I tried this last night i was RDM/BLM lvl 30 and i went in with 2 LS members both 30War/?? dont remember i tried to sleep the Liz on the left and got 3 sleeps off and they did nothing. was a very horrid attempt but i see there is a strategy to this. so my next question is i am still new and have never seen a kite or done one before can someone explain the whole process to me so i can give it a second try.
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Basically ill describe exactally what ur suppose to do and u only ok keef? this is what i did as rdm. got in, protect2 on all 3, cast blink, used pie, healed up, when we was ready go for the lizard on the right, let the melees take the left one, Gravity it first. all kiteing is, basically is when u have it gravity just run around away from it so it doesn't hit u. just stay away from it, now gravity has a decent cooldown so keep checking how long u got left on it but when ur gravity has like 15 seconds left on cooldown, cast bind. and if bind doesn't stick keep running, but if u see the lizard get out of gravity just start recasting blink, so by the time he kills all ur shadows ur blink should recast and u get another 3 , so by the time he kills all 6 shadows from blink by then u should have gravity back , u might take like 2-3 hits at most im guessing , just a guess pends on how fast u are with the keyboard/controller ect. just keep running around the whole battlefield away from the lizard u have grav on, and make sure u keep blink up and always keep like 3-4 yag drinks with u, 1 per fight but just incase u might need more then 1 during one of the battles u will atleast have an extra. and toss ocasional cure2-3s or regens on the melees, they should have more then enough hate that even a cure 3 or in my case even a divine seal cure 3 wouldn't pull it off them. you CAN use whm sub to this and i do suggest it for the fact of u will atleast get that 1 nice Divine seal cure 3 heal each fight that u more then likely will need. Gravity is all u need this battle, bind is just there to make sure gravity comes back from it's cooldown for sure, due to lizards normally get out of gravity, like 7-10 seconds before cooldown is gone. Blm sub really doesn't help too much, so no use to really sub it, divine seal is more worth the elemental seal and int bonus, the bonus mnd and divine will be the benefit in the longrun of this bcnm
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lol my gravity have stuck pretty long at times, got in 2-3 binds once before gravity wore off. i'd /wave, /poke, /em kicks the lizard in the nuts, and my party would say that i have too much fun kiting....and i kinda do^^
Used time proven method 1 RDM/BLM, 2x WAR/NIN
Incredibly easy using the method as so many have already described.
Drops were...
Lizard skin
Rapier belt
Iron Ingot
Absorb-AGI
Lizard skin
Scythe belt
Iron Ore
Absorb-AGI (again)
Hoping each to get a pair of leaping boots (so thats 3 in total) within say.. 10 fights although that will be going some :D.
Gonna have another go tomorrow as we had to log before fight 3, then we will do another complete run again. I'll post what else we get.
Incredibly easy using the method as so many have already described.
Drops were...
- 1st fight
Lizard skin
Rapier belt
Iron Ingot
Absorb-AGI
- 2nd fight
Lizard skin
Scythe belt
Iron Ore
Absorb-AGI (again)
Hoping each to get a pair of leaping boots (so thats 3 in total) within say.. 10 fights although that will be going some :D.
Gonna have another go tomorrow as we had to log before fight 3, then we will do another complete run again. I'll post what else we get.
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Well my set up was - War/nin , Mnk/war , Rdm/whm ( me)
Basically the 2 melees took whatever food and some hp regen food.
I took rolan pies and like 3-4 yag drinks.
2 melees went over to get the left lizard i graviy the right lizard. basically long as the rdm makes sure the lizard he has keeps grav on it u should be fine, what i did was, Gravity,.. ran around , every 10-15 sec into grav being on the mob i would cast bind, if bind didn't stick, i still run around, but once grav wears off, if i can't recast it i would just start right away to recast blink , that should give u enough time till grav is back up. then ocasional cure 2-3s on the melees, and blind spell on the other lizard they fighting, and u should be fine. i beat this 3 times so far like 3/3 only almost lost once due to the lack of team work during a first run but that was between the 2 melees.
First drop was Leaping boots, gun belt and rest was useless like 10k and below items. I made basically almost 3 mil with just 1 run.
Basically the 2 melees took whatever food and some hp regen food.
I took rolan pies and like 3-4 yag drinks.
2 melees went over to get the left lizard i graviy the right lizard. basically long as the rdm makes sure the lizard he has keeps grav on it u should be fine, what i did was, Gravity,.. ran around , every 10-15 sec into grav being on the mob i would cast bind, if bind didn't stick, i still run around, but once grav wears off, if i can't recast it i would just start right away to recast blink , that should give u enough time till grav is back up. then ocasional cure 2-3s on the melees, and blind spell on the other lizard they fighting, and u should be fine. i beat this 3 times so far like 3/3 only almost lost once due to the lack of team work during a first run but that was between the 2 melees.
First drop was Leaping boots, gun belt and rest was useless like 10k and below items. I made basically almost 3 mil with just 1 run.
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Okay so I just did this yesterday with some friends and Ls mates. We had a war/nin Aegon, blu/nin Ziuh, rdm/nin Claud, and war/mnk me. The 1st fight we had another rdm/nin go in and it went horribly wrong, nothing stuck and we died.
Then the 2nd fight was me, the blu and rdm. rdm gravity/bind the white wone and paralize/blind the brown one while blu used metalic body, cocoon, and headbutt when shadows droped. It was fairly easy, we went 5 times, switching out people when needed. Aegon went to get a second orb. we won 3/5.
Our drops were Gunbelt (1.4mil) Leaping Boots (1mil) Sarashi (450k) and mace belt (like 10k) lol. so we divided by 4 and everyone gets like 700k a peice, pretty good imo
Then the 2nd fight was me, the blu and rdm. rdm gravity/bind the white wone and paralize/blind the brown one while blu used metalic body, cocoon, and headbutt when shadows droped. It was fairly easy, we went 5 times, switching out people when needed. Aegon went to get a second orb. we won 3/5.
Our drops were Gunbelt (1.4mil) Leaping Boots (1mil) Sarashi (450k) and mace belt (like 10k) lol. so we divided by 4 and everyone gets like 700k a peice, pretty good imo
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can 2 blu/nin solo this w/ good gear and items? just wondering, please respond ^^
I know your post is old, but "maybe" you'll check it.
I would say BLU/NINx2 can not solo this.
Why? You ask? Simple. BLU Evasion is not great, and even with full evasion setup these lizards will rip your shadows. Once your shadows are gone, they will be hitting you HARD!!! I take about 50-60 damage per hit as THF, and a BLU would probably take 40-50.
That's not the only reason though, the only way a BLU will have a good chance at soloing his/her lizard, is by spamming your magic. But the problem with this is your mp. There lizards have lots of HP, and you will run out of mp, even with drinks.
And lastly, what happens if you are in desperate need of mp and need to rest?
Sleep spells are USELESS on these lizards, so you're screwed there.
IMO, the only job that can duo this w/o 2-hour (to all you SMN fanatics...) is THF/NIN, with as much EVA gear as possible.
I don't even have emp pin, but when I did this the lizards had a hard time hitting me with about 26 EVA. Plus, even if they did get past shadows, bloody bolts get a lot back, and I have Shadowstitch to bind them.
I soloed the brown lizard NP, but the white one is harder.
A THF and a kiter could probably solo this, but it'd still be tough.
I would say BLU/NINx2 can not solo this.
Why? You ask? Simple. BLU Evasion is not great, and even with full evasion setup these lizards will rip your shadows. Once your shadows are gone, they will be hitting you HARD!!! I take about 50-60 damage per hit as THF, and a BLU would probably take 40-50.
That's not the only reason though, the only way a BLU will have a good chance at soloing his/her lizard, is by spamming your magic. But the problem with this is your mp. There lizards have lots of HP, and you will run out of mp, even with drinks.
And lastly, what happens if you are in desperate need of mp and need to rest?
Sleep spells are USELESS on these lizards, so you're screwed there.
IMO, the only job that can duo this w/o 2-hour (to all you SMN fanatics...) is THF/NIN, with as much EVA gear as possible.
I don't even have emp pin, but when I did this the lizards had a hard time hitting me with about 26 EVA. Plus, even if they did get past shadows, bloody bolts get a lot back, and I have Shadowstitch to bind them.
I soloed the brown lizard NP, but the white one is harder.
A THF and a kiter could probably solo this, but it'd still be tough.
This is the strat my Linkshell uses (SpiritsCrusade on Kujata)
2x WAR/NIN
1x RDM/BLM
the 2 WAR/NIN tank and kill the brown one while the RDM kites the white one with Grav and Bind. RDM cures the WAR's when needed. That's it. Seems to work well enough.
2x WAR/NIN
1x RDM/BLM
the 2 WAR/NIN tank and kill the brown one while the RDM kites the white one with Grav and Bind. RDM cures the WAR's when needed. That's it. Seems to work well enough.
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Also drops Amenthyst
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i did this bcnm 7 times now and completed 6/7 times. We have had 2x leaping boots from this bcnm. we did it pld/war war/nin and Rdm/?? rdm binds and gravity on kalaminu while the war/nin and pld/war take the other one on. this dead easy when war/nin looses shadows pld vokes, rdm cures any1 who needs it when that one dead take the other one.
that easy peeps
that easy peeps
How much damage does each lizard hit for? I read form some of the older posts they were hitting a rdm pretty hard, but how hard are they hitting pld/war or war/mnk?
I went as a PLD/WAR the other day. My race was mithra. The equipment I used was Centurion's Sword, Kite Shield,
Fortune Egg, Kamp gear for head, body, legs, and feet, Mithra RSE hands, 2 Stamina Rings, 2 Energy Earrings,
Spike Necklace, Warrior's Belt +1, and Breath Mantle. I used Boiled Crab for food. The damage i was taking
while blocking with my shield was 15-25 damage, and for not blocking i was taking around 25-40 damage.
As Mithra and having 1 merit in evasion i was able to evade a nice amount of attacks as well. All my
combat skills were capped so i did parry a decent about of times as well. Also when we fought the RDM
kited the brown lizzard while the THF/NIN and i took down the withe lizzard with no problem.
Fortune Egg, Kamp gear for head, body, legs, and feet, Mithra RSE hands, 2 Stamina Rings, 2 Energy Earrings,
Spike Necklace, Warrior's Belt +1, and Breath Mantle. I used Boiled Crab for food. The damage i was taking
while blocking with my shield was 15-25 damage, and for not blocking i was taking around 25-40 damage.
As Mithra and having 1 merit in evasion i was able to evade a nice amount of attacks as well. All my
combat skills were capped so i did parry a decent about of times as well. Also when we fought the RDM
kited the brown lizzard while the THF/NIN and i took down the withe lizzard with no problem.
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ok, just did this with a friend of mine, Nedavets, and an LS mate Bigdog. set up was rdm/blm (ned), blu/nin (me), and war/nin (Bigdog). one word describes what happened...OWNAGE!! sooooo easy with this set up. first round got nothing but junk, sorry BD ; ; second round got a scroll of Utsusemi: NI. This setup cant lose, unless you go with a complete ******. Gl to all who attempt.
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Did this BCNM over the weekend with a couple of my LS members.
Here was the setup:
Blu/rdm (me)^^
Blu/nin
Rdm/nin
We went in and buffed up, rdm casted protectII and Shell on us. While we cocooned and metalic bodied ourselfs, we all ate a rolanberry pie and Healed MP until full.
Now we're ready to start the fight. I pop open my Yagudo Drink and gulff it down. The Rdm Binds/Gravity the white lizzy and gets ready to Kite, while me and the other Blu focus on the brown one. Baisically our whole strategy was to HeadButt and Bludgeon the heck of it. Which we did and it went down pretty quick. Once the Brown Lizzy went down for the count we did a couple Pollens and then set out to Destroy the White Lizzy. Rdm at that point Heals MP and cures accordingly.
Easy fight each time. We did it 3x so far we're 1/3 on the boots. :o)
Well I hope this post helped some.
P.S Blue Mage ROCKS!!!
Here was the setup:
Blu/rdm (me)^^
Blu/nin
Rdm/nin
We went in and buffed up, rdm casted protectII and Shell on us. While we cocooned and metalic bodied ourselfs, we all ate a rolanberry pie and Healed MP until full.
Now we're ready to start the fight. I pop open my Yagudo Drink and gulff it down. The Rdm Binds/Gravity the white lizzy and gets ready to Kite, while me and the other Blu focus on the brown one. Baisically our whole strategy was to HeadButt and Bludgeon the heck of it. Which we did and it went down pretty quick. Once the Brown Lizzy went down for the count we did a couple Pollens and then set out to Destroy the White Lizzy. Rdm at that point Heals MP and cures accordingly.
Easy fight each time. We did it 3x so far we're 1/3 on the boots. :o)
Well I hope this post helped some.
P.S Blue Mage ROCKS!!!
Scholar
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Done this BCNM a total of 7 times, each time set up of 2 WAR/NIN and me RDM/NIN, go in buff, Bind/Gravity white lizzy, paralyze/slow/blind brown lizzy (paralyze sticks and effects alot >.>). I kite white, and bind it away from WAR/NIN and heal them until bind wears off, always keep gravity on >.> and remeber to reboost shadows as it hits damm hard and can double attack, try to focus on kiteing even if the WARs lose a bit of heath and start whineing.
Drops are good out of the 3 orbs in each run, we have gotten a good drop 1/3 time, its made me about 2.6 mil Fairy server, fun and easy BCNM and hold the record of 7 min 10 seconds xD
probly best off with just doing it with freinds as your bacailly going to get a good drop out of the 3 runs iv found, because if your unlucky to get a crap run on your orb 10k (You Can Have This)
Edited, Thu Jun 22 03:01:45 2006
Drops are good out of the 3 orbs in each run, we have gotten a good drop 1/3 time, its made me about 2.6 mil Fairy server, fun and easy BCNM and hold the record of 7 min 10 seconds xD
probly best off with just doing it with freinds as your bacailly going to get a good drop out of the 3 runs iv found, because if your unlucky to get a crap run on your orb 10k (You Can Have This)
Edited, Thu Jun 22 03:01:45 2006
SETUP:
bst/nin
bst/nin
rdm/nin
Strategy:
This is like the dual war/nin plus rdm/nin kiting method but ALOT easyer and less risky, the only problem is finding another bst to do it with ><.
When you get in do not move, Bsts need to call a carrie ASAP, then rdm buffs and everyone uses uts<tab>...the shadow spell ><, anyways once you buff up and heal to full rdm casts gravity on the white lizzy and kites it while the the bst send the pets to attack the brown lizzy, you should attack it but make sure carrie keeps hate, turn around if your making too much hate, but you do have a nice little uts<tab> buffer so its not too hard. you should fight unlocked and turn arouns asap when you see any special tp move from the lizzys. use reward when apropreate if you want, just makes things simpler. once you kill the first lizzy you kill the 2nd one with the same strategy but the rdm can now heal and you can go all out attack. If a carrie dies i recomend for your seccond pet you call a tiger.
My drops yesterday was the boots, mith ore, iron ingot then random crap, im 1/3 to my hauby ^^. other party members wernt as lucky /comfort.
Dont you just love bst being good at everything :D.
bst/nin
bst/nin
rdm/nin
Strategy:
This is like the dual war/nin plus rdm/nin kiting method but ALOT easyer and less risky, the only problem is finding another bst to do it with ><.
When you get in do not move, Bsts need to call a carrie ASAP, then rdm buffs and everyone uses uts<tab>...the shadow spell ><, anyways once you buff up and heal to full rdm casts gravity on the white lizzy and kites it while the the bst send the pets to attack the brown lizzy, you should attack it but make sure carrie keeps hate, turn around if your making too much hate, but you do have a nice little uts<tab> buffer so its not too hard. you should fight unlocked and turn arouns asap when you see any special tp move from the lizzys. use reward when apropreate if you want, just makes things simpler. once you kill the first lizzy you kill the 2nd one with the same strategy but the rdm can now heal and you can go all out attack. If a carrie dies i recomend for your seccond pet you call a tiger.
My drops yesterday was the boots, mith ore, iron ingot then random crap, im 1/3 to my hauby ^^. other party members wernt as lucky /comfort.
Dont you just love bst being good at everything :D.
We just did this 5x tonight... with 5 people: RDM/BLM (Me), a team of PLD/WAR (veteran PLD) and SAM/WAR, and a team of PLD/WAR (not as good PLD) and RNG/WAR.
Easy as pie, though we had a couple of close calls. Zone in, I'd Protect II everyone, Aquaviel, and Blink, then rest to full. I kited the white one, while they beat on the brown one. Kiting as RDM is fun and easy and gives time to rest/help heal/debuff, so it wasn't too difficult.
First run: crap
Second run: Leaping Boots (2 mil) and Sarashi (450k) :D
Third run: Sarashi (450k) :D
Fourth run: Avatar Belt (500k) :D
Fifth run: crap
so awesome drops, too bad we're splitting them evenly 5 way (I say I should get 1/3 of the gil, and everyone else should get 1/6, but they won't go for that :P)
Edited, Sun Jun 18 00:50:51 2006
Easy as pie, though we had a couple of close calls. Zone in, I'd Protect II everyone, Aquaviel, and Blink, then rest to full. I kited the white one, while they beat on the brown one. Kiting as RDM is fun and easy and gives time to rest/help heal/debuff, so it wasn't too difficult.
First run: crap
Second run: Leaping Boots (2 mil) and Sarashi (450k) :D
Third run: Sarashi (450k) :D
Fourth run: Avatar Belt (500k) :D
Fifth run: crap
so awesome drops, too bad we're splitting them evenly 5 way (I say I should get 1/3 of the gil, and everyone else should get 1/6, but they won't go for that :P)
Edited, Sun Jun 18 00:50:51 2006
Um... How did you do this with 5 people?
Just want to know...
Just want to know...
So we did this bcnm 6x tonight. The setup was NIN/WAR, WAR/NIN, RDM/WHM
The RDM kited the brown lizard while the NIN and I dual tanked the white lizard. Once the white one was down we pulled the brown one over and started into it.
We of course had all the requisite potions and foods. I even gave the RDM a couple of ethers to speed up the last two fights a bit.
Overall we went 4/6. The first wipe was my fault as I went into the BC with level 34 swords. The second went well except the RDM eventually ran out of mp and we couldnt kill the second one fast enough. After those first two runs we went 4/4.
All in all, no drops worth more then 10k. In fact we had the same drop list back to back at one point. Sardonyx, lizard skin, steel ingot and beetle broth... So the fights were mostly successfull but the run cost me a lot more then I made.
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Anyone know if 2 BLU/WHM would be able to duo these with Lizard Killer and Paralyze?
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