Myochin Sune-Ate
+10As mentioned before, these are perfect if you're a Sam/Thf. The +5 enmity would carry over to a SATA on the tank making it easier to hold and maintain hate. Or if you must, just use TA- Tachi:Yukikaze on the tank and solo SA for the small boost in damage. I've done near 900 damage using TA- Yukikaze, and I'm in no way using perfect gear.
Other than this tho, the boots are somewhat useless. I must admit tho, I do find myself wearing them occasionally as a 63 Sam on Shiva server.
Edited, Oct 24th 2007 2:21pm by Koalarampage
Edited, Oct 24th 2007 2:23pm by Koalarampage
Myochin Sune-Ate
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thats most likely why they give you +5 evasion. they realize you will get hate more but if you do by chance then you will have a greater chance of dodging the attack. everything has their own flaw, aint nothing perfect in this game
You wont be dogding any more then you normally would with just +5 evasion >.>
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Accidental multi post lol
Edited, May 10th 2007 5:20pm by feanlean
Accidental multi post lol
Edited, May 10th 2007 5:20pm by feanlean
Evasion *skill* and I guess every little bit helps :'\
Yeah, just as a reminder there is a big difference between Evasion + and Evasion skill +. The evasion + only gives you up to your cap. While Evasion skill + brings it up past your capped evasion level. So... if you have to tank with Seigen and Third Eye these will make things much easier.
I should also point out to people that dont read the THF forums, or haven't learned this yet, but the more enmity you have when you sata, the more hate you make, hence the more hate you transfer to somebody else. Something to consider.
Other than that I'm sticking with the kyahan. Why does sam get no good boots for, like 40 levels? Why????
Edit: Hey, at least it's better than SMN AF
Edited, Wed May 31 19:50:17 2006
Other than that I'm sticking with the kyahan. Why does sam get no good boots for, like 40 levels? Why????
Edit: Hey, at least it's better than SMN AF
Edited, Wed May 31 19:50:17 2006
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Luisant solerets are nice at 45 but yeah long wait.
xBlasphemyx wrote:
Luisant solerets are nice at 45 but yeah long wait.
not to mdntion they cost half a million gil
xBlasphemyx wrote:
Luisant solerets are nice at 45 but yeah long wait.
not to mention they cost a few million gil.
+5 Enmity Sucks period.
Depending on Situations it MIGHT shine.
but how often do you consider good pt if you are constantly pulling hate off tank.
Tank or Mage may die during xp session.
wearing +5 enmity gear just incase of emergency during entire xp session is pretty stupid if you ask me. 9/10 times you are better off using something else. 1/10 times being odd cases where you pulling hate makes more efficient and effective in xp pt. personally never had 1 but I cant speak for everyone.
Maybe you didnt notice but there is such thing as Macro..
For those who doesnt know... its like
/equip feet "Myochi Sun-ate" <me>
/ja "Provoke" <t>
try doing so..
BUT wearing Full AF looks and feels great.
Edited, Fri Mar 17 04:24:45 2006
Depending on Situations it MIGHT shine.
but how often do you consider good pt if you are constantly pulling hate off tank.
Tank or Mage may die during xp session.
wearing +5 enmity gear just incase of emergency during entire xp session is pretty stupid if you ask me. 9/10 times you are better off using something else. 1/10 times being odd cases where you pulling hate makes more efficient and effective in xp pt. personally never had 1 but I cant speak for everyone.
Maybe you didnt notice but there is such thing as Macro..
For those who doesnt know... its like
/equip feet "Myochi Sun-ate" <me>
/ja "Provoke" <t>
try doing so..
BUT wearing Full AF looks and feels great.
Edited, Fri Mar 17 04:24:45 2006
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Macro these boots in when you need to take hate (and you WILL need to take hate sometimes, if your tank dies, or for SATA, for example) and then switch back to your Federation Kyahan when you're done..
The AF boots are NOT useless just because you'd prefer something else.
You will need to take hate sometimes, so when you do, wear the AF shoes. Otherwise, wear something else and quit whining about how "SE screwed up".
Every job has pieces of AF that are less useful than others.
The AF boots are NOT useless just because you'd prefer something else.
You will need to take hate sometimes, so when you do, wear the AF shoes. Otherwise, wear something else and quit whining about how "SE screwed up".
Every job has pieces of AF that are less useful than others.
Greetings my fellow noble Samurai of Garuda Realm, *bows*
I have begun the traditional hunt for the Samurai Af's equipment. I'f any Samurai would lend my there skills and wisdom in assiting me to defeat these fiends so that I may acquire the legendary armor. I would be greatly honored and appreciative. Once again I humbly request your assistance and thankyou in advance. *bows low*
May the bushido guide you and bestow untold wisdom an strength, be well.
"How long does the water fly live in the summer, a day in the eyes of man, but a blink of an eye for the gods! Yet still his time is longer than a man that defy's their destiny!"-Martial Lord Ryuken
I have begun the traditional hunt for the Samurai Af's equipment. I'f any Samurai would lend my there skills and wisdom in assiting me to defeat these fiends so that I may acquire the legendary armor. I would be greatly honored and appreciative. Once again I humbly request your assistance and thankyou in advance. *bows low*
May the bushido guide you and bestow untold wisdom an strength, be well.
"How long does the water fly live in the summer, a day in the eyes of man, but a blink of an eye for the gods! Yet still his time is longer than a man that defy's their destiny!"-Martial Lord Ryuken
5 posts
lol shizen although ur post waas so long ago its still Funny cause i just read it XD.BTW ALL
CHUCK-E-CHEEZE Roxzorz
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15 posts
I just have one thing to say. After all the crap i went through to get my AF boots you better be damn straight that i'm wearing them with pride just like the dude said. lol. After that i could careless if it had Dex-40.
wait no i'm lying. if that happened i would sew SE. lmao
ciao
wait no i'm lying. if that happened i would sew SE. lmao
ciao
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 17 2005 at 2:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Honestly, I think the Leaping Boots may still be superior for most cases. Although the abilities of the AF pieces are historically very accurate, in game terms alone SAM have pretty bad AF pieces is seems. Scorpion Harness is vastly superior to AF Armor (Haubergon is as well if you don't mind the AGI drop), Leaping Boots I think beats the AF Boots, and the Ochiudo's Kote I think may just actually be better than the AF Gloves. At least the AF Legs and AF Helm seem to be pretty damn good.
The Leaping Boots, Ochiudo's Kote, and Scorp Harness may be better than the AF, but for those of us that don't have the gil to drop on equipment (Hauby on my server is 6mil still,) the artifact armor is FREE.
And damn, but it looks good.
And damn, but it looks good.
26 posts
federation kyahan ftw
The quest isn't very hard. The hard part for me was getting people together to do it. I got mine last night! /hurray
i thought SE put all this enmity AF for them so when they voke for SATA thats y they have third eye if u ask me
9 posts
+5 enmity bring it on itll help me hold more hate when im first voke an maybe help so mages dont get hate away as fast an ***** up the sata
if u ask me its all good im samurai 47 atm and i get to tank often.. normally scarry but when u have ••• WHM RDM BLM THF THF SAM ••• its quite fun
everyone completely ignore most of the things on this board because everyone thinks of SAM tanks and grabbing hate differently but they always want us to voke of them when there dying so dont complain
everyone completely ignore most of the things on this board because everyone thinks of SAM tanks and grabbing hate differently but they always want us to voke of them when there dying so dont complain
7 posts
If anyone is on Asura that can help me, I would greatly appreciate it. ^^
Just a historic note... samurai were heavily armored warriors of the far east (Japan), with a system of honor (bushido) that can be compared to the western "chivalry". I personally think SE designed samurai to be an attacking tank similar to the normal warrior. It could also be just that they wanted to keep the mob off the mages.
And if youre wondering why samurai can use polearms and archery effectively, it is because they were masters in both these skills.
And on a side note, not to upset anyone, but ninja don't have enmity+ on their AF because I think they were never meant to be tanks, just ranged attackers (throwing, shuriken have high damage) or black mage supplements (i dunno how strong Ni spells are) or who knows.
And if youre wondering why samurai can use polearms and archery effectively, it is because they were masters in both these skills.
And on a side note, not to upset anyone, but ninja don't have enmity+ on their AF because I think they were never meant to be tanks, just ranged attackers (throwing, shuriken have high damage) or black mage supplements (i dunno how strong Ni spells are) or who knows.
15 posts
Quote:
Just a historic note... samurai were heavily armored warriors of the far east (Japan), with a system of honor (bushido) that can be compared to the western "chivalry". I personally think SE designed samurai to be an attacking tank similar to the normal warrior. It could also be just that they wanted to keep the mob off the mages.
Actually Samurai's were not heavily armored. Atleast not most of them. They needed manuverability because of their extensive use in the many various weapons. So they actually used less heavily built armor, yet strong. ^^
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Just a historic note... samurai were heavily armored warriors of the far east (Japan), with a system of honor (bushido) that can be compared to the western "chivalry". I personally think SE designed samurai to be an attacking tank similar to the normal warrior. It could also be just that they wanted to keep the mob off the mages.
And if youre wondering why samurai can use polearms and archery effectively, it is because they were masters in both these skills.
And if youre wondering why samurai can use polearms and archery effectively, it is because they were masters in both these skills.
Right on! It's nice to see someone actually knows the real life history of Samurai. I do, however, wish SE had done the right thing and not made "Katana" and "Great Katana". This is simply ridiculous.
Here is the reality. Samurai wielded katanas (what the game calls a "Great Katana") while the weapon of ninjas was the ninja-to (what the game calls a "Katana"). SE is usually better than that. Oh, let's not forget SE's ignorance with letting so many jobs use bows and so few use crossbows. In reality, bows are a hundred times harder to master; crossbows are just another type of gun, and guns/crossbows are much easier to master than the bow.
Anyway, yeah, the three favorite weapons of the historical samurai, if memory serves, are the katana, the dai-kyu (special longbow with a grip specialized for firing from horseback), and the naginata (pretty much the oriental version of the glaive).
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And on a side note, not to upset anyone, but ninja don't have enmity+ on their AF because I think they were never meant to be tanks, just ranged attackers (throwing, shuriken have high damage) or black mage supplements (i dunno how strong Ni spells are) or who knows.
In fact, ninjas were assassins, literally. Why SE made them such great defenders is beyond me.
The reason SAM and other damage dealing jobs get +Enmity is because... well think about it, would you rather have more hate on your melee damage dealer (any of them) or the soft, chewy, squishy on the inside mages wearing candy wrapper for armor?
Furthermore, a SAM taking a few hits every now in then is never bad because getting hit gives TP.
Furthermore, a SAM taking a few hits every now in then is never bad because getting hit gives TP.
7 posts
Of course enmity is good when tanking, but besides that it is extremely unwanted. Let's face it, most of the time you're invited to a party to be a damage dealer, not to tank. Besides, that is what the most popular SAM gear is designed for, damage dealing. If you're wearing damage dealing gear while tanking, you're not going to be a good tank. I have tanked as a SAM before, and it is not generally a pretty sight. I consider these boots to be best for working in a small party with lower levels for whatever the reason. Otherwise, I would never personally wear these in an exp party unless I have to.
12 posts
I don't know why people would think enmity is bad for a SAM. I've been main tank tons as a SAM, and I welcome a good +5 Enmity to help me tank. Third Eye is one of the best tanking Job Abilities in the whole game, while it may not be the best, it's certainly up there, and the +EVA Skill and +HP on these boots helps a ton.
46 posts
Well see Theres This Other little Thing That A SAM is desighned After To Be a main Tank If people Want Him To There A Static In My LS That Consist Of A BLM RDM WHM And 3 SAMs And if You Want To say That Is A Bad static They are all lvl 71 now With No Problems
Why you write capitalizing almost all the words? O,o
4 posts
Let me make some things clear about the whole "Why does SAM have +emnity?" thing.
Samurai is probably the number one job that is around to take hate when necessary. Whether it be for getting SATA setup onto the tank, ancient magic hate the BLM made from MB, the tank is in the dark red, the ninja or war/nin is getting pounded when trying to recast utsusemi, or whatever purpose it may serve, samurai is the job to do it. Although their defense may never match up to say paladin or warrior, samurai has been known time to time to be able to tank in some variations, so it's not like it can't take the punishment for the amount of time. Use this +emnity to your advantage and know when to use it to help your party. Also when combined with the AF body piece that hate and damage taken can be much to your advantage when you get that sweet little TP boost.
Samurai is probably the number one job that is around to take hate when necessary. Whether it be for getting SATA setup onto the tank, ancient magic hate the BLM made from MB, the tank is in the dark red, the ninja or war/nin is getting pounded when trying to recast utsusemi, or whatever purpose it may serve, samurai is the job to do it. Although their defense may never match up to say paladin or warrior, samurai has been known time to time to be able to tank in some variations, so it's not like it can't take the punishment for the amount of time. Use this +emnity to your advantage and know when to use it to help your party. Also when combined with the AF body piece that hate and damage taken can be much to your advantage when you get that sweet little TP boost.
isnt it crazy how many people play this game and ***** about every single detail?
11 posts
Sam might want hate on ocasion due to the effect that the AF body piece gives, just a thought...
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SE really screwed us on these, i was wearing this when we had a nin main tank (yes there was a thf in the party) and i did Tachi: Jinpu and the stuipid thing kept hitting me, i switched back to my Windurstian Kayhans after that and i didnt have much of a problem with it. if you ask me, this thing sucks and it wasnt worth waisting all that time and effort into killing all those NMs. ugh, i wish SE made more boots with good stats, theres a huge gap for sams with decent boots that dont cost a ton from lv25 to lv55 (im not spending 70k on +2 AGI boots but most people do) other than that, i like my ugly kayhans, the +3 atk +3 ranged is alot more usefull than +2 AGI or +5 emnity and + 5 evasion and the other junk i really dont need. congrats SE you screwed SAMs over once again.
/em leaps at Square Enix with super crazy samurai flying action! *slash slash*
/em leaps at Square Enix with super crazy samurai flying action! *slash slash*
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I just did this quest and man the damn bird took forever to kill with Full party and Pld 74 helping. The second part is easier but damn bogy and curse slows u down Dark elvaan is easy, For second part i had to lvl 60 and full party of 51.
Sam 51
Sam 51
#REDACTED,
Posted: Oct 13 2004 at 9:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 74SAM/37THF here and i have all AFs but only use the head peice b/c it looks ghetto^^ Other AFs are just mostly for the poor SAMs that cant afford the heubergeon +1 and all that nice **** that makes my attack over 600
wow that has got to be the most noobest thing ive EVER seen. Congratulations you "74Sam" with a "Haubergeon +1" and "600+ attack" hahahaHHAHAHAH~!
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