The Talekeeper's Gift - WAR AF3  

Start Area: Bastok Mines
Start NPC:Deidogg (H - 6)
Prerequisites:The Doorman - WAR AF1
The Talekeeper's Truth - WAR AF2
Related Areas:Behemoth's Dominion
Related Mobs:Detzo (I - 6)
Doglix Muttsnout
Moxnix Nightgoggle
Picklix Longindex
Mission:6 - 0
Min Level:50
Max Level:75
(Average from 5 ratings)
Items Required:Ginger Cookie
Title Obtained:Paragon of Warrior Excellence
Items Granted:Fighter's Lorica
This Quest is Repeatable
Last Updated: Tue Aug 30 13:43:04 2005

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Raogrimm's gift to the San d'Orians was stolen by a band of Goblin thieves from the Behemoth's Dominion. The Musketeers are in search of the item, but Deidogg wants you to take it for yourself.


Note: You must have completed The Doorman - WAR AF1 and The Talekeeper's Truth - WAR AF2 to activate this quest.

In Bastok Mines, talk to Deidogg at H-6. Then, go to I-6 in the mines and talk to Detzo. Then, craft a Ginger Cookie and give it to Deidogg.

After that, head to Behemoth's Dominion. Investigate a ??? around K-9 to spawn three notorious monster goblins, Doglix Muttsnout, Moxnix Nightgoggle and Picklix Longindex.

After you kill the three goblins, check the ???, then zone back to Qufim Isle for a cutscene and your Fighter's Lorica.

Quest Series

This quest is part of the artifact gear quest series for Warrior. The quest series includes:

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# May 13 2011 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I am having a terrible time with this. I can not get the mobs to spawn. I've tried everything, asked everyone and no one can figure it out. I have followed the steps to the walkthrough to a T (except I didn't craft the ginger cookie) but I can not get them to spawn. I just check the ??? and it says it's blurry and I can't read it. I have waited game days and real days now so that's not it and I have spoken to the NPCs again too. Please, if you know what I'm doing wrong or have a suggestion, please let me know.

Waiting Time
# Mar 13 2009 at 2:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Looks like you gotta wait until next game day to flag this, after completng AF2.
37 - RNG DNC
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# Sep 04 2008 at 7:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I Soloed this today as WAR75/DNC37, took a while,

Got 300TP from bats in the area before popping the 3 Gobs, i only got below 100TP and 50% health when i was attacking the 3rd gob, the Ranger.

Still a fairly easy fight.
war af body
# Jul 10 2008 at 3:32 AM Rating: Decent
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orr form shiva rdm/blu soloed this pawned all 3 nms too weak coccon + phal when stoneskin is down alot of times i got hit for 0 dmg gob landed ws for 9 points of dmg lmfao. if u a war on shiva sever send me a tell i would be more than happy to help u with this fight solo too easy

Edited, Jul 10th 2008 7:39am by orrsphantom
Solo as MNK/NIN
# Mar 20 2008 at 3:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Just soloed this fight as 75 MNK/NIN with some assistance from my lvl 55 soothing healer npc. I was using gear with a total of +45 evasion for this fight. Summoned npc with tactics pearl, used dodge and focus, then popped the NMs. Used Hundred Fists on the WHM, which was almost dead by the time it wore off (even after Bene). After taking the WHM out, the fight was quite a bit easier, though my npc was completely out of mp. I was out of the range of the RNG so he was just shooting at me while i was working on the THF. The only time i took damage during this part was when the THF would use Bomb toss or Goblin Rush. The gobs hit for very small damage, but things got a little more dangerous when the RNG landed an acid bolt on me for -def ; ;. When i started on the THF i had around 1k hp, when he died i had around 400 left. Not wanting to chance getting hit by EES, i kited the RNG around quite easily till the 2 minutes left on my Tactics pearl were up. I disbanded with my npc and resummoned her, who immediately cured me to full hp ^^. Then it was just a matter of taking out the single RNG. All in all it wasn't a bad fight but i definitely couldn't have done it without Hundred Fists or my npc. Fight took about 12 minutes.
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# Aug 09 2007 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
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This worked for me, but it would be nice if someone could confirm.

Spawn the NM's and run them to zone. Zone back in and single an NM out and kill it. The other gobs will return to the spawn point and despawn, but that is ok.

Repeat the spawning, zoning, killing until you have killed a total of 3 NMs. It can be the same NM, in my case whm x2 and thf x1. After your third kill, the ??? shouldn't spawn NMs anymore, and you can zone to collect your AF.

To explain how this worked for me, i was trying to single out an nm, kill it, then run back to the spawn points before the gobs despawned to take out the remaining whm or thf while the rng would shoot at me from afar. However i failed to catch them before they despawned 3 times in a row. The fourth try didn't spawn any NMs, so i zoned and was suprised to get my AF. I also dc'd once between each downtime for spawning the nm. Could someone confirm this please?

Edited, Aug 9th 2007 12:46pm by Eljahaisabum
Ginger cookie 1
# May 30 2007 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
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ginger cookie..... 2 dolla



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The Easy Way
# May 21 2007 at 6:59 AM Rating: Decent
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My good friend stopped leveling warrior a while back, but wanted to get the body to complete the set and NPC store it for possible future use. (Not to mention freeing up 4 spots in his mog house :p)

Our setup was this:

75 Galka Pld/War Tyreewere (me)
75 Mithra Whm/Blm Meowphttphtt
75 Hume Rdm/Blm
75 Taru Bst/Nin Fireman (Person who needed the quest)

We all buffed up, did our food thing, etc. I had no special gear, just my normal tank things. Fireman spawned the 3 gobbies and we each picked a target. He {SIC}ed his Carrie pet on the Whm type while we started on the thf. (I flashed the rng just to keep him on me) This fight was a joke. Our red mage kept them enfeebled, while Meow kept us buffed and healed. The thf went down fast, despite using Perfect Dodge at 50%. We switched to the Rng and took him out quickly as well. He hit me with his 2 hr Eagle Eye Shot for a whole 175 dmg. :p

I was taking so little damage at this point that Meow hadn't thrown a cure my way through 2 NM's. O.o (Can you say Regen III ftw?) We all switched focus to the Whm type, which by now was over 1/2 down thanks to Carrie. Needless to say, down went the last NM. I realize we were all lvl 75, but I kinda expected this fight to be a bit tougher. After all, the doll fight for the red mage AF body is a REAL ***** even for a full party of 75.

Anyway, Fireman is now the proud owner of his full set of Warrior AF {Congratulations} my friend :)

**On a side note, the Warrior AF Body has +8 enmity?? WTH?? The entire set has more enmity than Paladin AF. What a bogus deal. lol**

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The Easy Way
# Jan 15 2008 at 9:57 PM Rating: Decent
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the reason why war af has more enmity than pld af is because warrior was the games ORIGIONAL tank. that is why there is so much enmity with the af. now im not saying warrior is the best tank by any means, because it isnt.. pld ftw.... warrior happens to be my main job so i took the liberty to look at the history of the role of warrior in the past of the game and low and behold warrior tanked endgame in the beginning... <modern day whm>"OH NOEZ!". yea.
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Later I wept. But not on Warrior. Warriors never cry. I was Ninja.

WAR has access to enough enmity gear and enough hate-inducing JA to aggro baby Jesus.
The Easy Way
# Sep 15 2007 at 8:42 AM Rating: Good
390 posts
Tyreewere wrote:

**On a side note, the Warrior AF Body has +8 enmity?? WTH?? The entire set has more enmity than Paladin AF. What a bogus deal. lol**

That's because War is one of the jobs originally made to tank. It's primary purpose was not as a DD. It formed into this when people started to place NIN as a tank instead of a DD. One of the reasons why most of the WAR AF is unusable in parties, they already pull enough hate as it is. Also, they have less job abilities/magic to pull hate, (i.e. Cure or Flash, Sentinel or Rampart) so they need the additional Enmity.

If you want to get technical you could even make PLD a decent DD with the right gear and sub, but then if PLD became classified like this then their AF won't be as great. If WAR was used for its original purpose then their AF would be very nice.
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# Dec 27 2006 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Just did this with


75blm me The NIN went to work on the WHM first. Fight took a bit Both BLMs nuked but not for much, and Yes those things are not sleepable. so dont waste the MP to try. The NIN got down in the yellow once but that was it. The fight can be done with 3 people, just get you a good tank and go to town.
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# Jan 04 2007 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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nicely done, i saw you there :P

having trouble with this quest myself, the guy won't give me the quest <.< he just says thankyou >.>

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# Oct 30 2006 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
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It should be noted if one of the mobs despawns it will NOT count as a win.

Soloed it on SMN, managed to get the THF to despawn and kill the other 2 but... ._.; no luck.
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Not a problem
# Jan 16 2006 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Well me( 75MNK) and a 75 ninja and a 75 whm beat this no problem. Not to say it is easy but we used this method.

First I subbed /nin and we all bought some icarus wings. I had some potions just in case, never used them tho.

Built TP to 300 poped the mobs. We targted the RNG and unloaded TP, his 2hr was absorbed by shadows. Then we all poped an icarus wing and finished him off.

Next we moved on to the thf and picked away at him until he 2hred. 2hr finally went off I used hundred fists, and made quick work of him, and continued the 2hr on the whm. He used benny at about 45% by that time we had tp and unloaded brought him back down to about 45%.

I had the hate blink tanked it, only thing to take shadows was gob rush and he really couldn't even hit me. Got TP and finished him off.

Most of our WS were taking 700+ even the whm. So it can be done with low numbers at high lvs. Just take out the rng his 2hr is the biggest threat.

Edited, Mon Jan 16 03:26:58 2006
# Oct 22 2005 at 10:14 PM Rating: Default
RAWR!!! just solo'd this as 75 NIN/WHM.

i didnt know if id even stand a chance so i didnt really come prepared on 1st try. but i got WHM past 2hr, and almost dead with just 2 yag drinks before i had to Mijin Gakure to avert a death.

anyways, went back (at nighttime for +20evasion with stone/AFpants) and brought 5 yag drinks, and 5 pear au laits, as well as all my ninja tools.

used pro2/shell2, SS, AQV, and barfira before fight, and got 300 tp. o, and i ate a jack-o-lantern instead of sushi.

when u pop them, make sure to pull whm and thf to the side so u arent close to the rng. the rng wont engage u, he will just shoot from a distance. it took me 15 minutes to kill the WHM. just focus on keeping barfira and SS up, and your shadows of course. always have your HP/MP regen drinks on too. (they do stack, i didnt know this until i tried it.) i never went below 700HP the whole time. its a pain in the **** at first bc u have a thf doin alot of triple attacks, and the whm does diaga alot. but once u finally kill the whm, its easy really.

im sure plenty of other ninjas have solo'd this as well, but i gotta admit it was a good challenge. i reccommend trying it, but come prepared.

o, and when i killed the last one (rng) i had 1155/1155HP and 17/167MP. the whole fight took 25 minutes.
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RE: Solo
# Jun 13 2006 at 6:43 AM Rating: Decent
Just soloed this as RDM/NIN, It can be done!! no super uber equips needed. fanciest i had were genbus shield and o hat. take out the whm first, and you end up killing him 1.5 times since he will bene on you. its a little hectic with the 3 mobs pounding on you all at once, i used Ni for a little breathing room to recast stoneskin. phalanx is a must of course, and shock spikes seem to help a bit with the short stun they sometimes give to your assailants. once you get the rhythym down its just stretching your mp out till the next convert. this took me about 45 min, so i guess it takes some patience too. i lost on my first attempt because i didn't enfeeble that much and ended up going through my mp too fast. keep em all blinded, para helps but wears fast, and don't bother slowing the ranger, since he just sits and shoots and haste/slow doesn't seem to affect rng attack. no real need to solo this i guess, be easy with a partner, but it is a nice challenge if you don't mind a 45 min fight.
WAR AF body
# Oct 12 2005 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
106 posts
I did this easily with a 4 person pty just the other day.

PTY setup.

First clear pop area, then person needing quest touch the ???. MNK pulls the whm gob "Muttsnot". The MNK/NIN and WHM fight the one gob. The 2 WAR/NIN each voke one of the other gobs and run them to the zone.

From there WAR/NIN's keep zoning in and out keeping the other 2 gobs at the zone till your MNK calls for another. Simply bring one while keeping the other at the zone. etc etc.... No one died doing it this way, and you could prob substitute the WAR/NIN for 2 NIN mains to make the zone less painfull. Try it, it works.
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# Sep 10 2005 at 12:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Just did this with 63WAR/NIN, 75WAR/NIN and me as 75RDM/WHM. Me and the ninja hadn't read up on it, but the warrior's friend had told him that the NMs are sleepable. Well, we get there and pop them only to find out that no way can you sleep them. So instead I grabbed hate, gravited the THF and kited that and the RNG until the WHM was dead. Then brought them back and NIN grabbed RNG off me and we killed THF last.

I'd definitely recommend killing them off one at a time while kiting others unless you're there with a near-full alliance to kill them off fast. The RNG is super easy to kite since it always stops for ranged attacks, and THF just needs gravity/bind. Also, since we just had the WAR and NIN meleeing them the mobs didn't get much TP and I honestly didn't see more than a couple of bombs go off. Both guys were still at full health after the first gob and by the end of the three fights the 63WAR had barely dipped into yellow. Overall just a really fun and easy fight for us. =)
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# Aug 13 2005 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I just did this with my DRG. Had no problem popping them and getting the cutscene as DRG. So no, you don't NEED to be WAR for the NM's fight.
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About To
# Jul 10 2005 at 8:50 PM Rating: Decent
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About to Try this out and I hope We win XD Any Tips?
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This stuff is fun
# Jun 23 2005 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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As a 60 WHM I don't do this to achieve any AFs, but I do participate in AF3 runs with my linkshell. I've done a few of these fights... and this is what I personally have observed.

These guys aren't very hard at all, but WHMs should be prepared to deal with bomb tosses, because they WILL happen.

We usually have a full alliance taking on these, one pt on each goblin. Pretty easy with an alliance as long as you keep Birfira up and the gobs seperated so that you don't take more than 1 bomb toss at any given time.

As everyone should know the WHM one should be killed first so it can't use Benediction. I've seen it and I don't think anyone wants to see a mob recover 3,000+ HP in one move, lol.
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Quest error...
# Jun 21 2005 at 10:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, I just defeated the 3 NMs 5 minutes ago... and nothing happened. I checked the ??? again, nothing. What's going on here?

Edit: I figured out that I get the cutscene when I zone to Qufim. I was freaking out there for a minute lol, didn't want to go through that fight again.

Edited, Wed Jun 22 00:54:34 2005
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Can't Start Quest
# May 19 2005 at 3:08 PM Rating: Default
93 posts

Edited, Thu May 19 21:20:25 2005
Did this tonight
# May 07 2005 at 1:41 AM Rating: Decent
9 posts
Just beat this for my war with 71PLD/War(me), 75 MNK/NIN, 74 BRD/WHM, even with the soul voice gobs would not sleep so it took some doing. I grabbed all aggro and me and the monk killed the whm, then he went to rng and I kept thf busy. EES killed monk while blink was down and it got hairy after that but we finally beat it. Another person or two and it would have been a ton easier, reccomened at least 4 high 70+ to make this easy.
can't get quest
# Apr 24 2005 at 11:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Is there anything else I have to do? I got my Fighter's Calligae, but when I talk to Detzo he just asks if I've seen Gumbah. Then I tried trading the cookie to Deidogg, but nothing happens.

EDIT: Had to wait until the next game day to receive this quest.

Edited, Mon Apr 25 01:17:29 2005
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As Drk
# Apr 17 2005 at 5:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry this stupid Alla messing up ending up doing double post,,,

Anyone know about my ?

Edited, Sun Apr 17 18:19:11 2005
Name: Harker
Race: Hume
Nation: Bastok Rank 10
Server: Bismarck
Linkshells: Amour

As Drk
# Apr 17 2005 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
134 posts
Can I flag this with my War and then Whoop on them with my 74 Drk and other 70+ Friends or do I have to be WAR?
Name: Harker
Race: Hume
Nation: Bastok Rank 10
Server: Bismarck
Linkshells: Amour

# Feb 28 2005 at 3:29 AM Rating: Decent
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dose it HAVE to be a crafted ginger cookie or can you just buy one
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We did this with FOUR
# Feb 14 2005 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Did this today with only 4 ppl (on Leviathan):

68 NIN/THF - Pinkninja
75 THF/NIN - Deseree
60 RDM/WHM - Kady
58 WAR/THF - Taltos (Me)

Took a little while, but with minimal help from me (a few sneaked Sturmwinds and Keen Edges) and a few heals from Kady, Pink and Des beat them. I had to see it to believe it. Major credit to those two!

Now I have my halter top. Too bad the Hauby is so much better!
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lvl 55-63 pt
# Feb 13 2005 at 4:02 AM Rating: Decent
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We had lvl 55-63, and a lvl 74 BLM:


One PLD in each PT was assigned to a gob, and then the WAR voked. We all went after the WHM first, then the RNG, then the THF. We took the WHM out without incident, but one of the PLDs died while fighting the RNG (and it was the PLD who wasn't assigned to tank one... we're still scratching our heads on that)

Sleep and Bind don't work. You'll either need good tanks, or need to kite. A pop at the end would have messed it up a bit, but I did Stoneskin and Flashed it, which kept it busy until we could finish off the THF.

The key concepts are:
1) Barfira/Carol
2) Take them one at a time.

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RE: lvl 55-63 pt
# Feb 15 2005 at 11:44 AM Rating: Default
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Had 2 70+ blms in my pt for this, slept the rng and thf easy while we went to work on the whm.
nm lvls
# Dec 21 2004 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
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i love the discriptions for the mobs we have to fight i know just what i am going up aginst now 0.o
Remember Barfira/Fire Carol
# Nov 28 2004 at 6:28 PM Rating: Good
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With a high level Barfira, plus Fire Carol if available, the bombs don't do much damage. My party, mostly ~60, was taking ~20 damage from each bomb.

I went in a 12-person alliance; we had RDMs kite the RNG and THF (Gravity'd the THF, didn't bother on the RNG) and it went very smoothly.
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RE: Remember Barfira/Fire Carol
# Dec 24 2004 at 4:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Just did this tonight. We totally pwned those 3 gob NMs. Although they did a lot of bomb toss, we had Barfira and/or Fire Carol up so the bomb dmg was nothing (thanks to Valyana Sage's advice ^^). All of our alliance members HP never seemed to decrease, except our RDM who tanked the gob RNG almost died of its Eagle Eye Shot. I was so worried about the gob WHM would Bene, because we really did not pull them apart. But we pwned the gob WHM so fast that it did not even have the time to Bene. Basically, we kill the WHM (Doglix) first -> RNG (Moxnix) second -> THF (Picklix) last. Picklix used Perfect Dodge about 1/2 health and we could not hit a squat, but once it was gone, we pwned it again like the rest.

Our alliance config is:

first party
74 RDM (tanked the gob RNG first)
73 PLD (tanked the gob THF first)
60 WHM
60 Brd

second party
75 Ninja (tanked the gob WHM)
74 WHM
72 Monk
60 Monk
60 RDM
60 War (me)

Overrall, the fight was so easy with the above alliance config that it was so sur-real. (^^;)

P.S. After the fight was over, some alliance members insisted me on clicking the ??? again while I was trying to zone to Qufim. I ran back, clicked on the ??? again and nothing happened. I then zoned to Qufim, got a cutscene and my AF3. (^^;)

Edited, Fri Dec 24 04:54:54 2004
# Nov 21 2004 at 8:55 PM Rating: Decent
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i think.. you get 3 WAR who also need the AF.. and get as many BLM/WHM's as possible ... have the War Each Voke 1... and have them all Cast Thunder IV on it at the same time =P ... nothing could work better
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# Nov 11 2004 at 10:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Did mine tonight, beat it with 75rdm/nin, 75blm/whm, 75nin/war. had the nin take the whm and the blm nuke it, while i kited the other 2 juggling utsusemis and stoneskin/phalanx.
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# Oct 14 2004 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
54 posts
Just got this one done tonight. Had a full alliance with probably 7 or 8 above 70 I would guess. Some were /anon so I couldn't be certain. Anyway, I believe there were 3 or 4 of us who needed to complete the quest. The fight only needed to be done once, and you do not need to click on the ??? again post battle. When you zone back into Qufim, a cut scene happens that finishes with you receiving the Fighter's Lorica. For all of you on Valefor who helped out with this, thank you so much! /bow /kneel
Sarahlynn - Valefor - 75 BRD WHM RDM BLM NIN
not bad..
# Oct 13 2004 at 9:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Helped a JP alliance with this today. It was fun, but they didn't really know what to do. They were all saying to get the whm first, and then when they popped, everyone went after something different ; ; I ended up grabbing the whm, and instinctively started moving back away from the other ones. I turn around and the MAGES are standing behind me. The goblin of course throws his bomb at that exact moment. Luckily nobody died but the mages were a mess. I felt bad and I was so confused.. nobody yelled at me which was good. We beat it and the WAR thanked me and now one more honey hume female with midriff in Vanadiel. woot.
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??? is at K-9
# Oct 08 2004 at 1:13 AM Rating: Excellent
63 posts
First off, the ??? is located in K-9, not K-6 as stated above

ok, at the time i was a 58was/29nin
we got a full alliance with majority of ppl around 60, give a take a few levels
there was also a 73 rdm that helped us out
our alliance was melee oriented with only 1 smn, 1 blm, 1 whm, and the rdm. another whm not in the alliance happening along helped with the healing

our strategy was for each pt to take one goblin each
we built up tp by killing mobs around the area
one of the wars ( there were four who needed it) touched the ???
the gobs spawned and the respective tanks voked their gob
and separated them so that everyone would not be hit by their bombs
my pt had the pleasure of raping Doglix
he was dead really quick, even after it used benediction
then my pt moved on to Moxnix, the rng
the pt had him down to half health and then we my pt came, it died really quick
finally it was picklix's turn, we was down to around half health as well, but he died really quick with 18 ppl raping him

some other online guides say to check the ??? again after killing them, but nothing special happened, no key item, no cutscene, no nothing
we proceeded to zone and got the cutscene and lorica ^^

all in all, it was an really easy fight, just have each pt have at least a healer and a tank and a good strategy
two ppl did die though
the war tanking the rng gob died really early in his fight? eagle eye shot maybe? i dont know but that seems the most logical
also the rdm unfortunately died just before we killed off the thf gob. i think he used chainspell and nuked it liked crazy which gave him lotsa and hat and thus death

also, if there are more that 1 warriors, you need to fight the goblins only once
War AF3
# Sep 20 2004 at 6:47 PM Rating: Excellent
43 posts
Line up:

Party1: PLD(75), BLM(75), BLM(65), BRD(71), DRK(62), RDM(62)

Paryt2: War(62)

Try #1:
We had our WAR pop the 3 goblins. Had the lvl 75 BLM bind 2 of 3 NM, which did not work very effectively cuz bind broke after 3 seconds. Trained 2 of 3 NM to the zone leaving only the RNG gob for the remainder of us to kill. By the time we finished with the ranger, our lvl 75 BLM zoned in and soloed the WHM gob with his 2hour. We killed 2 of the 3 goblins but the 3rd(THF) despawned. Yes, they do despawn if they are not active for a while.

Try #2:
This time we had our WAR/NIN kited the THF gob around the two rocks near the ??? for pop.
While the two BLM kept the WHM busy with sleep and bind.
Our PLD and DRK killed the THF with no problem.
The RDM kept refresh on the PLD and the Casters and healed the Kiting WAR/NIN.
The BRD just went back and forth Ballad the BLM and the PLD and DRK.

After PLD and DRK took care of the THF gob, they went to help with the WHM gob which was maintained by the 2 BLM. The WHM gob 2hr and took a while to kill, but everything was under our control at this point and we finished off the WHM and the RNG mob easily after that.

We also used this configuration to get RNG AF3 and we will attempt to do DRK and RDM AF3.

Obviously, not everyone will get help from 17 other people or lucky enough to get help from lvl 70+.

Face to face fight:
If I had a full alliance I would personally kill WHM>RNG>THF in that order.

Kiting method for less people alliance:
The RNG is fair easy to kite because it stops and tries to shoot you which gives you time to run away and cast your ninja stuff. Have a WAR/NIN provoke and kite them around.

The WHM is also easy to kite because it tries to nuke you with WHM magic which you can outrun if you are fast enough. Just make sure you keep it provoked and the kiter is far from the other goblins so the WHM gob can't use benediction or heal the hurt goblins.

The remainder force will take on the THF while the 2 kiters do their thing. After you are done with the THF, you can go ahead with the WHM and then Ranger.

Also, it is important to keep these kiters alive, so toss them some heals. They WILL get hurt. If they die, means 2 angry goblins will attack the main fighting force.

THF(kill first)> RNG(KITE)> WHM(KITE FAR AWAY, so it can't heal)

*Kiting = running the monsters in circle so they can't hit you.

Hope this helps!

Good luck.

Edited, Mon Sep 20 20:19:45 2004
# Sep 16 2004 at 1:46 AM Rating: Decent
199 posts
I've tried twice to get Japanese Behemoth people to help with no luck, wish I knew some japanese. Also helped people with PLD AF3 and DRK AF3 in hopes that I can talk the alliance into staying together for warrior AF3 with no luck >_<. Anyways i'm going to give it a shot this weekend with LS people and hopefully random helpful people who join. I was wondering does the tank dealing with the Rng gob usually always die after eagle eye shot? is there a way to avoid this? Would an utsusemi tank be better for him?
Wish me luck!
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just wanting to know
# Aug 28 2004 at 1:18 AM Rating: Default
6 posts
how did u possible find and keep this many high lvls most i have experienced will turn their noses up to you for the stupidest excuses but i was wondering if u really need a full allience of three parties i am far from getting this but i need to know ahead of time

44 warrior/22 monk
RE: just wanting to know
# Oct 01 2004 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
7 posts
Well if you've got very high level friends that are willing to help, then you don't need a full alliance, but if you're doing this at level 60, you should know a lot of people who are around your level and with some effort can get an alliance together for doing lots of people's AF3. It takes a while to do multiple AFs but more people are willing to help if you're willing to help them with their AF, too.

Honestly, it's not the responsibility of the high levels to help you. If they do, that's nice of them, but you really can't expect them to. They've got stuff they want to do, too.

Almost everything that you need to do is possible to clear without high level help. It's just harder.
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RE: just wanting to know
# Feb 19 2005 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
30 posts
And How did you manage to get your AF Done. I bet you didn't Solo It. I'm sure you had higher lvl help. I think Higher lvl's should take some time out of there day, so some kindness, because i'm sure they had some high lvl's help them.
I'm a Warrior 4 Life!!
# Jul 19 2004 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
2,306 posts
you can load up with blm and drks with stun, sadly you can't stop all the bombs because of the recast timer

the gobbies put down 8 bombs, and i ended up dying on the final bomb despite the whm using curaga throughout the fight. the whm in our party didn't have benediction ready, which made the difference.

you might as well gather up all your high level buddies and do this as early as you can because you'll likely die, and i'd rather do it in the low 50s when exp penalties aren't as excessive as the high50s. the lvl 60 war in the party also died in this fight (he took business end of the rng gob eagle eye shot).

During the fight, ignore the rng and thf gob and go for the whm. when fighting the whm gob, hold all your weaponskills (use flat blade if they want to go gob bomb) until it uses benediction. i waited for that move then sneak attack+sturmwind for 700 which essentially wiped out the hp it recovered with benediction. when you fight thf gob when it uses perfect dodge the blm needs to nuke it. perfect dodge doesn't protect against magic.
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# Jul 04 2004 at 4:04 AM Rating: Decent
223 posts
Just finished this quest today. ^^ Was great fun, even though it was horribly deadly cause we didn't seperate the Goblins quite far enough.. ^^;

Got about 15 or 16 people for it, a lot of us, myself included, died during the fight due to the sheer amount of bombs.. -_-;

Anyway, it was horribly chaotic and scary but the most fun I've had for a while. Definately take out the WHM first, then the RNG, then the THF.

Last but certainly not least, I'd like to thank everyone who helped me get this quest done.

Some of particular note:

Nightblade - Fellow Warrior who helped me with AF2 as well. Love the Haubergeon. /salute :D

Vladamier - Leader of my static party and awesome Thief. Keep on SATA-ing me :O

Neese - White Mage of our static, great MP management and keeps the party going ^^

Hailstorm - He fell asleep at his comp when we were leaving. Ranger of our static, **** powerful little guy..

Trexina - Black Mage of our static, love the hat ^^ Thanks for the warp II's and escapes, you've saved us so many times

Laine - Dark Knight who I helped out with his AF3, can't wait to see you in that helm

Boppin - You're a filthy-minded Red Mage and you know it, Bopp >.> /poke
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Behemoth King alliance
# Jul 02 2004 at 4:13 AM Rating: Default
298 posts
I just wasted 2 hours of my night watching a japanese LS kill Behemoth King in hopes they would help me next. But no, they warped out while I was asking for help. Yea made me feel great about lv70's.
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Currently 75 Warrior - 71 Monk - 75 Dragoon
RE: Behemoth King alliance
# Aug 20 2004 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
25 posts
Dude you can just go around expecting things of lv 70+ and especialy the japanese. It doesnt work that way. Get a few friends, generaly that helps for getting things done. Tell me, what have you done to help them and/or what could you do?......My point exactly.

Edited, Fri Aug 20 14:20:35 2004
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The Cookie
# Jun 20 2004 at 7:46 AM Rating: Good
322 posts
Another correction to the quest description. Ginger Cookies *can* be crafted, however you can also purchase them at the vendor of the 'travelling circus' for whichever nation is 1st in conquest that week. Costs a bit over 100gil.
RE: The Cookie
# Jun 30 2005 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
um.... last time i checked the cookies were 3gil
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Wrong Coordinates
# May 26 2004 at 7:22 PM Rating: Default
17 posts
The Spawn point is in K-9, not in K-6.... K-6 does not exist.

Keria ~ Fenrir ~ 60WAR/32SAM/29MNK/5THF

RE: Wrong Coordinates
# Dec 09 2004 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
149 posts
Just wanted to confirm this, also. K-9 is the correct coordinates for the ??? point to spawn Doglix and his buddies. Also, just so people don't spend time looking around for "some white bones", the ??? point is in the corner at K-9 where the rock wall meets the white "crag material", cermet, whatever you want to call it.

When the player completing this quest triggers the ??? point the three goblins spawn directly behind him or her. Thanks to those who left the tips on how to handle this battle.

Our alliance assigned one party to each gob with main tank, healer, and DD members. Each party grabbed one gob and pulled it away from the others to take them down separately, then as each one went down, that party joined one of the others to finish off the rest. It's definitely good to assign each tank to grab a specific gob prior to spawning them, as it cuts down immensely on confusion.

Thanks very much to all those who came along on this battle! No deaths, and it went very smoothly.

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WAR90 | PLD90 | SCH90 | THF79 | SAM75 retired
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Battle Strategy
# May 18 2004 at 3:57 AM Rating: Good
322 posts
Thank you to everyone on Garuda who helped out on this this evening!

A tip on alliance formation... because this NM fight is very near the location of DRK AF3, if you can coordinate your efforts with any ~60 DRKs your recruiting power is increased. My alliance did the drk fight first (and it was substantially easier than this).

Our alliance setup was the following:
PT1: whm, rdm, blm, rng, drk, mnk ...levels 56-60
PT2: whm, drk, rng, thf (lvl58-60) and 70+ pld and 70+ rdm
PT3: rdm, war (me), drk, mnk, drg ...levels 56-60
...I was worried the setup was short on casters, but we ended up find with zero deaths.

Random battle tips:
-The more people who have 2hr available, the better. Rdms converting is, as always, very useful.
-Clear the area of bats and weapons to make things a bit simpler (also nice for building TP)
-Assign tanks for each gob in advance, and make sure you pull the gobs apart. This way the bomb throwing will hurt fewer people and benediction from the whm gob won't be as effective.
-You'll most likely want to kill the whm goblin first, followed by the rng, followed by the thf. Note they will all use 2hr ability and are apt to throw a whole lot of bombs.

Our random battle strategy:
-The 70+ pld voked the whm, I voked the thf, and the 70+ rdm (w/ blink, stoneskin, phalnax) 'temporarily soloed' the rng.
-With a tank assigned to each gob and a healer for each, the rest of the alliance focused on killing them one at a time in a massive rush. Whm > rng > thf.
-We pretty much skipped any finesse with SCes/MBes and just beat the **** out of them as quickly as possible.

So this was our 'plan'... although the key to this seems to be that as long as you're well-organized, have at least 3 tanks, and at least 3 people who can heal heavily, you can deal with killing them as you please. If each of our PTs had been equally balanced, I'm sure we could have sent 1 pt after each gob, although I feel sending a majority of your damage-dealing after one at a time reduces the total number of bombs thrown at you (which is the real threat in this battle).
Party Setup
# May 13 2004 at 3:06 PM Rating: Decent
17 posts
Will having a Bard along help? Has anyone successfully slept two and fought the other (a la BCNM40 - Giddeus), or is this pretty much hold on for your dear life and try to handle all three at the same time?

This is my only AF left, so any help or hints is most certainly welcome.

Keria ~ Fenrir ~ 57WAR/32SAM/29MNK/5THF

Easy party
# Apr 18 2004 at 7:50 AM Rating: Decent
121 posts
If you speak a bit of japanese, this will help here. A trick to getting a party is to ask some of the level 70+ players who are here after fighting Behemoth/King Behemoth. You'll already have 18 people that way.
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