The Root of the Problem - BLM AF3
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SummaryThe cause of the star trees' poor growth seems to lie in the Toraimarai Canal. First, bring some silk cloth to Professor Koru-Moru so he can improve his magic doll. Then take the magic doll into the Toraimarai Canal to carry out an inspection. WalkthroughAfter getting a cutscene from Chumimi in the basement of Heaven's Tower, you must trade a Silk Cloth to Koru-Moru in Windurst Walls. Then, return to Chumimi for another cutscene, and she will give you a Sluice Surveyor Mk. I. Next, go to Toraimarai Canal. Once in Toraimarai Canal, head to H-6 and investigate a ???. Then head to the ??? at I-9. Investigate that ??? once, and then use Manafont and investigate it again while Manafont is active. You should receive a cutscene telling you to head northeast. Head northeast to the circular room at J-8, and investigate the ??? there to pop the notorious monster Magic Sludge. Kill the monster to receive your final cutscene before heading back to Windurst. The Magic Sludge must be killed once for every black mage in the party or alliance that is doing the quest. Return to Heaven's Tower and talk to Chumimi to receive your Wizard's Petasos. Quest SeriesThis quest is part of the Black Mage artifact armor series. See the list below to find out which quest comes next.
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I soloed this on 75 Smn with carby. Don't use any bp just run away so you can recast. It takes a long time but it's very doable. We didn't plan it as a solo, but after everyone but me died, I put carby on it with something like 10-20 mp, and found it's very easy as long as you have mp refresh with carby out. It died and I had full mp at the end.
Soloed using Diabolos as a 75 SMN. Nether Blast did a constant 515 on the NM so it went quickly. Only needed to summon 2 Diabolos and it was dead.
I searched Alla earlier and couldn't find specifics on how the Quest can be soloed, since it's hard to get people to go to canal. The guide is on how to solo this Quest as a high level RDM. However, the opening section is relevant for non-soloers if you're having trouble finding the ???s in the Canal.
BLM prep:
/rdm or /whm for sneak. Use the Dream Boots+1 to make Sneak last longer. You may choose to use Sprinter's first to speed up the process. Make sure you have 2 hour.
Go as blm to the canal, zoning in from Horutoto Inner Ruins (East Saruta J-7 tower). Sneak up. As you go into the canal follow the Northern wall (left wall as you zone in) and you will eventually find your first ??? at H-7, examine, listen to the 'doll'.
Next backtrack North a little to the 'bridge' you passed on the way (H-6) and cross it. From there, turn South and this time follow the right side wall without taking any stairs into the water or crossing any bridges. Eventually you will come to (I-9) and cannot go south anymore, go West and you should see the ??? at the gate across the water, which you can get to by going a bit further West to where the water ends and the paths meet.
Examine the ??? at I-9 once, the 'doll' will talk gibberish at you and from that you are supposed to understand: Use Manafont. Use two hour and click the ??? again. The 'doll' will notice something strange a ways off.
<< This is where you can change job to something other than BLM. After the Manafont AND the Cutscene after you use 2 hour.>>
The details below are for RDM/PLD but the strategy should work also for RDM/BLU and possibly RDM/NIN.
Rdm/pld 75
Abilities: Shield Bash, Sentinel, Holy Circle, Cover, Convert, Chainspell (not up due to using Manafont).
Traits: Magic Atk bonus, Clear mind, Magic Def bonus, Fast Cast, resist Petrify, Resist sleep, Defense Bonus, Auto-refresh, Shield mastery, Undead Killer
Gear: Fairly standard solo gear, mostly AFs, replaced martial anelace for fight with joyeuse for faster TP gain, though martial should work well. Chiv chain, amemet mantle +1 were switched in after mp was used up from other pieces. Food used was a yahata-style carp sushi I had lying around. INT was no where near 100 due to sub and DD style gear.
Return to Canal as your higher level job. This time, enter Canal, cross bridge at (H-6) as before, but take the stairs into the water at (H-7). Once in the water, simply follow it back North then take first East 'corridor'. Follow path East until you see an intersection North (ignore the South one you'll see), take it and go up the stairs. Now follow the Eastern wall south, then keep following the wall East and you will eventually see the opening to a room South of you containing (most likely): Lichx1, Girtabx1, Fallen Knight/Other randoms x2 and the ??? you need. The room itself is (J-8).
Fight the Lich and the Girtab for TP, make sure you get 300% (Signet will help you keep it.) This is really because sometimes the Lich or Girtab likes to be silly and aggro... Anyway, after they are gone and you have TP, rest to full hp/mp and cast buffs: Prot/Shell IV, Stoneskin, Phalanx, Barsleep (I resisted 3/7 Sleepga IIs with 260ish boosted enhancing and insomnia, so it's worth having), Aquaveil, Haste, Blink (don't really bother after first 50% it's a waste of MP after that), Enfire, Shock Spikes (this is just to raise DoT, it didn't do much, 1s and 3s for the most part but occasional Stun was nice), refresh up and pop the NM. Regen once you start taking hits.
It did not aggro me immediately after popping, I also did not have sneak up. I am unsure if this is the case always, so it's best to be prepared. Land gravity on it then run away from it back out of the room, I fought it in the corridor just outside, across the water. It'll try to cast at you, just return Slow, Paralyze, Bio II at it. Make sure you keep up these three. I tried keeping up more, but found it drained my MP at quite an alarming rate. Use Spirits Within as soon as it is in position, then slowly hack away at it, keeping Stoneskin up at all times as its drain + Bio III can hurt. Don't bother with poisonpots for sleepga, you will get woken when your stoneskin wears.
I can't stress the importance of Slow, Paralyze on the mob. It is extremely weak to Paralyze and many of its spells can be interrupted. If you are a bit low and it keeps interrupting you (which shouldn't happen if your shield skill is decent with Shield Mastery) just Stun it with shield bash or blind it quickly with Flash. You can also Stun Sleepga II with the bash. If you're in danger of being beaten to death, you can use Sentinel, though I didn't find it necessary to do so. The NM Aspired for around 50 at first, then weaker as time went by, it likes to spam Absorb-stat spells, Bio III, and Aspir. Drain only landed for 45ish, and wasn't a problem.
Converting: Bio III can be very deadly on convert, so watch your MP / HP ratio carefully. If you need to vert, make sure to land a fresh Stoneskin and watch for Sleepga II.
All of this time you are basically wearing down its HP with Bio II, your melee hits (which will do around 4-7), enspell and whatever it kills itself with on your spikes. The major damage comes from Spirits Within. It took me three Spirits Withins to kill the mob. It is important to leave enough MP to give yourself good HP for Spirits by the time you have 300% TP (200 if you're using Martial).
Lastly: Reraise is safe for a 75 character at the camp specified (you must be across the water from the ??? pop room or Lich may blood aggro.)
BLM prep:
/rdm or /whm for sneak. Use the Dream Boots+1 to make Sneak last longer. You may choose to use Sprinter's first to speed up the process. Make sure you have 2 hour.
Go as blm to the canal, zoning in from Horutoto Inner Ruins (East Saruta J-7 tower). Sneak up. As you go into the canal follow the Northern wall (left wall as you zone in) and you will eventually find your first ??? at H-7, examine, listen to the 'doll'.
Next backtrack North a little to the 'bridge' you passed on the way (H-6) and cross it. From there, turn South and this time follow the right side wall without taking any stairs into the water or crossing any bridges. Eventually you will come to (I-9) and cannot go south anymore, go West and you should see the ??? at the gate across the water, which you can get to by going a bit further West to where the water ends and the paths meet.
Examine the ??? at I-9 once, the 'doll' will talk gibberish at you and from that you are supposed to understand: Use Manafont. Use two hour and click the ??? again. The 'doll' will notice something strange a ways off.
<< This is where you can change job to something other than BLM. After the Manafont AND the Cutscene after you use 2 hour.>>
The details below are for RDM/PLD but the strategy should work also for RDM/BLU and possibly RDM/NIN.
Rdm/pld 75
Abilities: Shield Bash, Sentinel, Holy Circle, Cover, Convert, Chainspell (not up due to using Manafont).
Traits: Magic Atk bonus, Clear mind, Magic Def bonus, Fast Cast, resist Petrify, Resist sleep, Defense Bonus, Auto-refresh, Shield mastery, Undead Killer
Gear: Fairly standard solo gear, mostly AFs, replaced martial anelace for fight with joyeuse for faster TP gain, though martial should work well. Chiv chain, amemet mantle +1 were switched in after mp was used up from other pieces. Food used was a yahata-style carp sushi I had lying around. INT was no where near 100 due to sub and DD style gear.
Return to Canal as your higher level job. This time, enter Canal, cross bridge at (H-6) as before, but take the stairs into the water at (H-7). Once in the water, simply follow it back North then take first East 'corridor'. Follow path East until you see an intersection North (ignore the South one you'll see), take it and go up the stairs. Now follow the Eastern wall south, then keep following the wall East and you will eventually see the opening to a room South of you containing (most likely): Lichx1, Girtabx1, Fallen Knight/Other randoms x2 and the ??? you need. The room itself is (J-8).
Fight the Lich and the Girtab for TP, make sure you get 300% (Signet will help you keep it.) This is really because sometimes the Lich or Girtab likes to be silly and aggro... Anyway, after they are gone and you have TP, rest to full hp/mp and cast buffs: Prot/Shell IV, Stoneskin, Phalanx, Barsleep (I resisted 3/7 Sleepga IIs with 260ish boosted enhancing and insomnia, so it's worth having), Aquaveil, Haste, Blink (don't really bother after first 50% it's a waste of MP after that), Enfire, Shock Spikes (this is just to raise DoT, it didn't do much, 1s and 3s for the most part but occasional Stun was nice), refresh up and pop the NM. Regen once you start taking hits.
It did not aggro me immediately after popping, I also did not have sneak up. I am unsure if this is the case always, so it's best to be prepared. Land gravity on it then run away from it back out of the room, I fought it in the corridor just outside, across the water. It'll try to cast at you, just return Slow, Paralyze, Bio II at it. Make sure you keep up these three. I tried keeping up more, but found it drained my MP at quite an alarming rate. Use Spirits Within as soon as it is in position, then slowly hack away at it, keeping Stoneskin up at all times as its drain + Bio III can hurt. Don't bother with poisonpots for sleepga, you will get woken when your stoneskin wears.
I can't stress the importance of Slow, Paralyze on the mob. It is extremely weak to Paralyze and many of its spells can be interrupted. If you are a bit low and it keeps interrupting you (which shouldn't happen if your shield skill is decent with Shield Mastery) just Stun it with shield bash or blind it quickly with Flash. You can also Stun Sleepga II with the bash. If you're in danger of being beaten to death, you can use Sentinel, though I didn't find it necessary to do so. The NM Aspired for around 50 at first, then weaker as time went by, it likes to spam Absorb-stat spells, Bio III, and Aspir. Drain only landed for 45ish, and wasn't a problem.
Converting: Bio III can be very deadly on convert, so watch your MP / HP ratio carefully. If you need to vert, make sure to land a fresh Stoneskin and watch for Sleepga II.
All of this time you are basically wearing down its HP with Bio II, your melee hits (which will do around 4-7), enspell and whatever it kills itself with on your spikes. The major damage comes from Spirits Within. It took me three Spirits Withins to kill the mob. It is important to leave enough MP to give yourself good HP for Spirits by the time you have 300% TP (200 if you're using Martial).
Lastly: Reraise is safe for a 75 character at the camp specified (you must be across the water from the ??? pop room or Lich may blood aggro.)
Just completed my 4th set of AF (yea im slow lol). Did the fight in 30 seconds! Had a mnk use formless strikes and hundred fists. Made the fight I had seen take long look like a complete joke.
Edited, Nov 5th 2007 11:57am by krystalphyre
Edited, Nov 5th 2007 11:57am by krystalphyre
Just completed this, was a pretty easy quest.
Went as
55BLM/22WHM <me>
75NIN/37WAR
70BLM/35WHM
I had to keep snk up the whole time, other two were fine.
Popped Magic sludge and killed it, hoping that we could all get CS from one fight, no luck.
Re-cleared the room and popped again, this time let it despawn, popped it a third time and fought to death.
Easy fight. NIN tank, BLM70 DD and I healed. I think they could have easily done it without me there. Lowest NINs health went to was 688, and thats because I was being lazy.
Got the CS and went back to Chumimi for our hats..
Went as
55BLM/22WHM <me>
75NIN/37WAR
70BLM/35WHM
I had to keep snk up the whole time, other two were fine.
Popped Magic sludge and killed it, hoping that we could all get CS from one fight, no luck.
Re-cleared the room and popped again, this time let it despawn, popped it a third time and fought to death.
Easy fight. NIN tank, BLM70 DD and I healed. I think they could have easily done it without me there. Lowest NINs health went to was 688, and thats because I was being lazy.
Got the CS and went back to Chumimi for our hats..
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The NPC you talk to after you get the AF HAT is Kupipi NoT Kumimi or whatever he wrote there is no npc with that name.
Edited, May 2nd 2007 9:56pm by robiih
Edited, May 2nd 2007 9:56pm by robiih
this nm fight was a major let down. solo magic sludge with my mnk/nin it was about 1min 10sec fight.
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once again all of you people on this crappy website let me down with false information. you can not repop Magic Sludge correctly in order to kill once
Scholar
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Actually yeah you can, we got it for 3ppl tonight, and fought it once. After it depops you have to wait for the ??? to reactivate, however. Give it a few minutes.
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THis was realy fun last night. we got a bit lost party setup was
Bocaj 75RDM/37BLM
Junbao 66MNK/33WAR
Ailya 66BLM/33WHM
Mela 66WHM/33BLM
Ordoric 50BLM/25WHM <me>
After getting lost a few times we found the pop location both blm checked it for some strange reson NM only poped one @ a time so we had to do this 2 times bocaj and Jun tanked it < got to love convert> Ailya and me wher nuking like crazy and also healing along with mela. tooka long time but we cleaned house. But now @ lvl 50 i have my Blm af head and a new title.
Bocaj 75RDM/37BLM
Junbao 66MNK/33WAR
Ailya 66BLM/33WHM
Mela 66WHM/33BLM
Ordoric 50BLM/25WHM <me>
After getting lost a few times we found the pop location both blm checked it for some strange reson NM only poped one @ a time so we had to do this 2 times bocaj and Jun tanked it < got to love convert> Ailya and me wher nuking like crazy and also healing along with mela. tooka long time but we cleaned house. But now @ lvl 50 i have my Blm af head and a new title.
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Minimum level is not 51, just did this lvl 50 blm
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I started this quest yesterday and after Chumimi told me that I have been granted access to enter Toraimarai Canel, I went to the gate next to House of Hero but I still couldn't gain access. Is this because I need to do the quest that lets you pass through the gate before or is there something I'm doing wrong?
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Brooka,
I am sure you have already figured it out, but for the rest of the people
Chumimi will tell you that you have access to investigate Toraimarai Canal, what she means is that you can go through the Horotoru Ruins to get there. Past the 3-mage door which either needs 3 mages (RDM, WHM, BLM) or one person who has completed Windurst Mission 3-2 and got the portal key to open it. You cannot access the Canal from Windurst until you are done with the BLM AF-3 fight for the hat.
After the fight and talking to Chumimi and receiving your Wizard's Petasos (hat), Chumimi will tell you to talk to Kupipi to receive another item. Kupipi is in Heaven's Tower where the world pass NPC is. She will hand over a charm to open the gate to Toraimarai Canal. The quest is considered finished once you get your hat, this is just a secondary reward.
I am sure you have already figured it out, but for the rest of the people
Chumimi will tell you that you have access to investigate Toraimarai Canal, what she means is that you can go through the Horotoru Ruins to get there. Past the 3-mage door which either needs 3 mages (RDM, WHM, BLM) or one person who has completed Windurst Mission 3-2 and got the portal key to open it. You cannot access the Canal from Windurst until you are done with the BLM AF-3 fight for the hat.
After the fight and talking to Chumimi and receiving your Wizard's Petasos (hat), Chumimi will tell you to talk to Kupipi to receive another item. Kupipi is in Heaven's Tower where the world pass NPC is. She will hand over a charm to open the gate to Toraimarai Canal. The quest is considered finished once you get your hat, this is just a secondary reward.
Party Make Up
72 Sam/nin (hume), 75 Drg/war (hume), 56 blm/whm (hume), 61 blm/whm (me, taru), 61 whm/blm (taru)
granted this wasnt the perfect setup for the battle. but we still manage to beat it in like 5-7 min. In beginning everything was going fine. The blms' main jobs were nukers / healers and everyone else their regular roles. Then our health were going into yellow because our whm d/c accidently in the middle battle (bad timing huh?). Then the blms became the main healers. by that time, the nm health point was down to 1/8. So we were just healing the tank and the dd. If the battle lasted any longer, we would have been in trouble. but we kicked its butt!!!
way to go for thenewworld (Fenrir)!
72 Sam/nin (hume), 75 Drg/war (hume), 56 blm/whm (hume), 61 blm/whm (me, taru), 61 whm/blm (taru)
granted this wasnt the perfect setup for the battle. but we still manage to beat it in like 5-7 min. In beginning everything was going fine. The blms' main jobs were nukers / healers and everyone else their regular roles. Then our health were going into yellow because our whm d/c accidently in the middle battle (bad timing huh?). Then the blms became the main healers. by that time, the nm health point was down to 1/8. So we were just healing the tank and the dd. If the battle lasted any longer, we would have been in trouble. but we kicked its butt!!!
way to go for thenewworld (Fenrir)!
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I just trio'd this easy. Setup was...
75 BRD/WHM (me)
75 RNG/NIN
59 BLM/WHM
The first time we tried we failed miserably. Between the sleepga2 spamming and the bio and hate bouncing everywhere we got totally screwed up and died at 75%. Rng's ws's were dealing next to no dmg.
We rethought our strategy and the day turned to lightsday. Cleared the room. Rng change from a gun to holy bolts and one of his axes to a sword and I switched to sword. The rng and I got 300 tp clearing the room. Opened the fight w/ both of us using Spirits within. Both the rng and I did like 550+ dmg and it was instantly down to like 65%. Now there was a decent amount of hate between the rng and I that the blm could stun and cure(the first time we'd told him to do some light nuking and instantly pulled hate)Blm stayed out of aoe range so he wouldn't get slept. I kept up mambo and march b/c the rng wasn't having too much trouble evading the attacks, and kept elegy on the elemental. I was pulling hate on occasion w/ songs so I kept Stoneskin and Blink up. Rng built tp, got full cure and did Spirits Within again. By this time is was about 20-25%. Melee for a little more and I got 300 tp by then it was around 12-15% and I either finished it off or took it down to like 1%. Waited for respawns and did it again the same way. As the brd i only used my mp for buffs on myself and erase since the blm didn't have it otherwise i straight melee'd it with the rng. We had no haste is higher lvl buffs and it wasn't a bad fight once we thought it through.
75 BRD/WHM (me)
75 RNG/NIN
59 BLM/WHM
The first time we tried we failed miserably. Between the sleepga2 spamming and the bio and hate bouncing everywhere we got totally screwed up and died at 75%. Rng's ws's were dealing next to no dmg.
We rethought our strategy and the day turned to lightsday. Cleared the room. Rng change from a gun to holy bolts and one of his axes to a sword and I switched to sword. The rng and I got 300 tp clearing the room. Opened the fight w/ both of us using Spirits within. Both the rng and I did like 550+ dmg and it was instantly down to like 65%. Now there was a decent amount of hate between the rng and I that the blm could stun and cure(the first time we'd told him to do some light nuking and instantly pulled hate)Blm stayed out of aoe range so he wouldn't get slept. I kept up mambo and march b/c the rng wasn't having too much trouble evading the attacks, and kept elegy on the elemental. I was pulling hate on occasion w/ songs so I kept Stoneskin and Blink up. Rng built tp, got full cure and did Spirits Within again. By this time is was about 20-25%. Melee for a little more and I got 300 tp by then it was around 12-15% and I either finished it off or took it down to like 1%. Waited for respawns and did it again the same way. As the brd i only used my mp for buffs on myself and erase since the blm didn't have it otherwise i straight melee'd it with the rng. We had no haste is higher lvl buffs and it wasn't a bad fight once we thought it through.
ok i have a problem, im san d'orian, i did the quest for aspir but bought the test answers, hence no three mage door done, how do i get access thru the 3 mage door without having to change allegience to windy and lose my sandy rank 6 ... this quest still has me a little confused and i hate windy quests.
and info would be appreciated
Ciraphie 62rdm, 58blm, 37whm, 27smn, all others under lvl 15
remora server
and info would be appreciated
Ciraphie 62rdm, 58blm, 37whm, 27smn, all others under lvl 15
remora server
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in Heaven Tower's counter, there's a taru that asked you to get something like rolanberry or something like that. You will get a key item after you trade the rolanberry and you be able to access that door without 3 mages.
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ok for those of you who wander into new places without a map as we always do let me tell you something as far as manafont and ??? order if you find the I-9 ??? first do NOT manafont it doesnt matter what order you do it then the second ??? is the one you manafont at regardless of location just to save you oh say 2 hours if you stumble across I-9 first :)
I finally dinged 60 with Black Mage, now I just have to do this quest. Is it possible to check the first two "???" and leave it at that until I can get a PT to fight the sludge?
Yes, absolutely. I got to the second ???, used manafont and checked again, and then left and came back as PLD to tank it. If you've got another, bigger job or need to go collect people, that's the way to do it.
We just owned this thing....
We had 1 pld at 75, 1 at 71.....a lvl 71 blm and rdm.....a 65 monk...and a 75 bst and about 10 ppl that needed the hat...we all went and it took us an hour just to frickin let it cool down and despawn 9 times we killed it in like 1 minute. Although one person messed up the whole manafont cutscene we just fought it...they are going back now IDK if we are going to fight it or what.
We had 1 pld at 75, 1 at 71.....a lvl 71 blm and rdm.....a 65 monk...and a 75 bst and about 10 ppl that needed the hat...we all went and it took us an hour just to frickin let it cool down and despawn 9 times we killed it in like 1 minute. Although one person messed up the whole manafont cutscene we just fought it...they are going back now IDK if we are going to fight it or what.
Scholar
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Just have to point out the first ??? is at H-7 not H-6.
Just finished this quest for my BLM 59 so I would have my hat all set to go when I hit 60.
Compared to the other AF3 (or AF6, depending on how you number it) quests I've done/assisted, this is definitely one of the most straightforward and simplest. As a rule of thumb, these can usually all be done with a single party of skilled 60-somethings, and the difficulty curve naturally changes as you add higher levels into the mix. But some, like the WHM AF3 battle, can be challenging even for a full party of 75s. This is not one of those. ^^
I had two Lvl 75 PLDs, a 75 WHM, and 75 BLM, and myself. I wish I had known that if you activated the first two CSs on BLM, you could actually spawn/fight the elemental on a different job, then I could have brought my RDM. In any case, the two PLDs took out nearly half of the mob's HP with 300% Spirits Within (doing over 1600 dmg) and the BLM finished it off pretty with a few quick Tier IV spells. Definite overkill, but better safe than sorry.
More intriguing to me is the cliffhanger regarding the Great Tree. Being a sucker for storyline, I obtained the Earthen Charm and ran back to the Ruins for the CS at the Gate of Earth, then ran back to Chumimi for her reaction. I wonder if there's another quest associated with this or whether they are setting the stage for one. Talking to the 3 professors didn't yield any clues, either. Time will tell.
Compared to the other AF3 (or AF6, depending on how you number it) quests I've done/assisted, this is definitely one of the most straightforward and simplest. As a rule of thumb, these can usually all be done with a single party of skilled 60-somethings, and the difficulty curve naturally changes as you add higher levels into the mix. But some, like the WHM AF3 battle, can be challenging even for a full party of 75s. This is not one of those. ^^
I had two Lvl 75 PLDs, a 75 WHM, and 75 BLM, and myself. I wish I had known that if you activated the first two CSs on BLM, you could actually spawn/fight the elemental on a different job, then I could have brought my RDM. In any case, the two PLDs took out nearly half of the mob's HP with 300% Spirits Within (doing over 1600 dmg) and the BLM finished it off pretty with a few quick Tier IV spells. Definite overkill, but better safe than sorry.
More intriguing to me is the cliffhanger regarding the Great Tree. Being a sucker for storyline, I obtained the Earthen Charm and ran back to the Ruins for the CS at the Gate of Earth, then ran back to Chumimi for her reaction. I wonder if there's another quest associated with this or whether they are setting the stage for one. Talking to the 3 professors didn't yield any clues, either. Time will tell.
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I solo'd this fight as a 75 nin/whm. Got 39 experience points for it.
whm sub is definitely recammended, The sludge will cast sleepga and bio III, so its nice to have a cure or erase handy if needed. Its not a hard fight, just takes a long time.
whm sub is definitely recammended, The sludge will cast sleepga and bio III, so its nice to have a cure or erase handy if needed. Its not a hard fight, just takes a long time.
Well it is for a BST75 anyway ;D
You do not need to be BLM to trigger the final ???, it can be done on any job as long as you've done the first two ???'s on BLM.
Pulled the Magic Sludge down to near the room at G-6 on the map with the zone to Windhust Walls. There are 3 Mousses in that room and it was just a matter of using one of those to keep it occupied while waiting on Call Beast timer for another CourierCarrie (CC). The Mousses actually do better than a L75 CC in terms of taking physical damage, but they only hit half as hard, and more importantly they don't resist Drain as well. The Sludge gets back 150-200hp if it casts Drain on a Mousse (this from a pet that is hitting it for 10-odd damage). CC dies quicker but hits harder (20-ish) and only gets Drain'ed for 20-50hp.
It took 11 CCs and about 50-55 mins to kill. Lengthy but pretty easy, with Blink/Stoneskin up during pet swaps I only got hit once when it cast Sleepga II and a couple of times when I failed charm on a Mousse. Was never in any real danger.
Some pics ^_^
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You do not need to be BLM to trigger the final ???, it can be done on any job as long as you've done the first two ???'s on BLM.
Pulled the Magic Sludge down to near the room at G-6 on the map with the zone to Windhust Walls. There are 3 Mousses in that room and it was just a matter of using one of those to keep it occupied while waiting on Call Beast timer for another CourierCarrie (CC). The Mousses actually do better than a L75 CC in terms of taking physical damage, but they only hit half as hard, and more importantly they don't resist Drain as well. The Sludge gets back 150-200hp if it casts Drain on a Mousse (this from a pet that is hitting it for 10-odd damage). CC dies quicker but hits harder (20-ish) and only gets Drain'ed for 20-50hp.
It took 11 CCs and about 50-55 mins to kill. Lengthy but pretty easy, with Blink/Stoneskin up during pet swaps I only got hit once when it cast Sleepga II and a couple of times when I failed charm on a Mousse. Was never in any real danger.
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I'm asking this because i want to get my hat asap since i have almost all my AF already (trying to get it all done so i can store it). My blm is at 52 but my rdm is 62 and i'd rather take that in. I have no problem doing the first two ???'s as a blm and then joining a group for the final ??? as long as I can trigger that as a rdm.
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i would like to know this also, on top of that do i have to collect the 2 coffer items to flag this quest? i still need my whine cellar key to finish AF2 but ill soon get the others done, but i would much prefer doing this as my 70 bst than mt 52 blm.
Edited, Sat Oct 1 22:22:13 2005
Edited, Sat Oct 1 22:22:13 2005
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In order to get the hat do you have to finish the feet? The AF feet aren't useful for me b/c my RSE give me +3 int.. but if I have to get the feet to get my hat I will..
Edited, Thu Aug 18 01:49:09 2005
Edited, Thu Aug 18 01:49:09 2005
Yes, you must complete the quest for your AF feet. Chumimi will not give you the quest for the hat until then. And you probably need to zone between finishing one and starting the other.
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Thanks for answering to me ^^ .. I appreciate much!! I guess I'll have to get to doing that..
the short version:
we did this as hume NIN 75/37war, taru blm 60/30whm, taru blm 57/27whm, elvaan blm 57/25whm me.(i sub rdm for exp parties... havn't finished leveling whm yet ><)
i died twice, blm 60 died once... we still won ><
the longer version:
i started off my day mining when i got home from work. i even managed to pull 2 platinum ores (70k each). while there, Quarterpint (blm 60) mentions that he wants to do his AF3 this weekend. i say "sure count me in" since i need it too. Shippochan (blm 57) agrees, since he as well needs teh awsome blm af hat.
it was then that Thatdude (75 NIN) voiced in that he wanted to kill stuff while waiting for his GF to log in. he heard QP wanted to get his AF3, and asked how hard it was. QP responded 2 pts of 60-75s... i thought noo... that cant be right... but i dint' say so... yet. Thatdude then said "cool, lets go get it!" we're all like ahh... your not enough on your own to finish the ***** of a elemental...
*note, i had yet to do my af2 boots yet...*
anyway, Dude is like, ok, lets do it anyway. and asks LS if anyone needs or wants to come along. me and shipp do, so we voice up, i say i need to do my AF2 before i can start AF3... thats a trip to castle Zavhl... killing crap... Dude's like. ok, fine :) what do i have to kill there ^^
so Dude, Qp and me go to the castle, kill about 7 demons, and get my whine celler key. i'm like GREAT! we D2 Dude back to jeuno, and me and QP go on to the Keep to get my boots, i pull a **** load of agro, have to zone back to bailys with 60 some HP and Bio on >.> i survive, heal, and finish getting my boots :)
so this was about 45 min worth so far :). and i still had to fly to windy, finish af2, flag af3, ... there was no silk cloth on AH. so i went to the cloth guild... it was fireday... fireday is their holiday ><
i send a shout out asking for 2 silks (1 for me and 1 for shipp who also had to start the af3 quest) i pay 30k for the 2 silks, within like 10 seconds of shouting. andi'm on my way...
now, to do this, you need access to tor. canal... this can be very hard if you dont' have a blm, rdm and whm with you to open the door... we had 3 blms and a NIN.... instead, we wait around for some one with windy rank 5 missions started, (gives portal charm to open the gate without the 3 mages) and we're on our way.
we get throught the next bit fairly easily, up to the actual NM fight. Magical Sludge is spawned first by QP, then Shipp, and both times let despawn. i'm elvaan and can take more hits then the other two taru combined... so i'm last to pull.
i spawn the biach... and run to the pt in the hall... wait... dosn't follow. so ok, i still have sneak up, its ok.
i move up, stun it... sneak drops and a lich agros me....
its only the 1 lich, out of 3 and a scorp... so ok, thats fine. we can deal.
now... i just used stun, so when the lich starts to cast freeze on me >< and Dude is busy voking the NM... QP is trying to sleep the undead... (duh... dosn't work) and shipp dosn't see anything... so Dude yells "Stun" about the lich... so do i...
then BAM! from 880 HP i'm now at 160... good thing im elvaan or i'd be a taru-cikle... i try to heal myself, tell Dude to kill lich first. he vokes... i die ><
k... we still have lots of MP, no problems...
QP starts to raise me after a bit of a rythm is established and all looks ok.
i rise fromthe dead. cure myself... and die from the Magical Sludge that now agro's me ><
ok... Fu-see-K... ><
alrighty.... they still got MP... still good... but wait... QP is taking hits from the Ele now... he dies trying to cure himself ><... Dude kills off the lich and pulls the Ele. to the far end of the tunnel away from our bodies...
fine. he's holding hate, and barely taking damage. down to about 800 of his 1200. Shipp cures him to full and raises me.... i have no mp... so i have to then med to raise QP... oh well. no biggie. i raise him and continue to med/ regen Dude.
Magical Sludge is at about 90% health still at this point. keep going. by the time weakness wears on me, its at about 65%. qp then is up a few seconds later. and we're on a roll again ^^
we keep Dude cured, and at about 15% health... i get a tingling in my special area >.>
~~~Tripple Burst~~~
i yell it, and we med to 370 mp each or more...
we start casting... we cast... i do 190, QP does 201, shipp does 160...
we're frightened... no mp left... and we barely did any damage... we're all freaking about the hate comming. but it dosn't? Dude keeps hate, finishes off teh Ele in a few more rounds adn we cheer like hell.
we three blm run for the ??? get the Cutscene. and escape out :)
i then warp to windy, run to the Heaven tower, and am the first of us to get the hat ^^
shipp and QP get their hats and we're done!!!
3 Paragons of Black Mage Excelence!!! W00t!!!
we did this as hume NIN 75/37war, taru blm 60/30whm, taru blm 57/27whm, elvaan blm 57/25whm me.(i sub rdm for exp parties... havn't finished leveling whm yet ><)
i died twice, blm 60 died once... we still won ><
the longer version:
i started off my day mining when i got home from work. i even managed to pull 2 platinum ores (70k each). while there, Quarterpint (blm 60) mentions that he wants to do his AF3 this weekend. i say "sure count me in" since i need it too. Shippochan (blm 57) agrees, since he as well needs teh awsome blm af hat.
it was then that Thatdude (75 NIN) voiced in that he wanted to kill stuff while waiting for his GF to log in. he heard QP wanted to get his AF3, and asked how hard it was. QP responded 2 pts of 60-75s... i thought noo... that cant be right... but i dint' say so... yet. Thatdude then said "cool, lets go get it!" we're all like ahh... your not enough on your own to finish the ***** of a elemental...
*note, i had yet to do my af2 boots yet...*
anyway, Dude is like, ok, lets do it anyway. and asks LS if anyone needs or wants to come along. me and shipp do, so we voice up, i say i need to do my AF2 before i can start AF3... thats a trip to castle Zavhl... killing crap... Dude's like. ok, fine :) what do i have to kill there ^^
so Dude, Qp and me go to the castle, kill about 7 demons, and get my whine celler key. i'm like GREAT! we D2 Dude back to jeuno, and me and QP go on to the Keep to get my boots, i pull a **** load of agro, have to zone back to bailys with 60 some HP and Bio on >.> i survive, heal, and finish getting my boots :)
so this was about 45 min worth so far :). and i still had to fly to windy, finish af2, flag af3, ... there was no silk cloth on AH. so i went to the cloth guild... it was fireday... fireday is their holiday ><
i send a shout out asking for 2 silks (1 for me and 1 for shipp who also had to start the af3 quest) i pay 30k for the 2 silks, within like 10 seconds of shouting. andi'm on my way...
now, to do this, you need access to tor. canal... this can be very hard if you dont' have a blm, rdm and whm with you to open the door... we had 3 blms and a NIN.... instead, we wait around for some one with windy rank 5 missions started, (gives portal charm to open the gate without the 3 mages) and we're on our way.
we get throught the next bit fairly easily, up to the actual NM fight. Magical Sludge is spawned first by QP, then Shipp, and both times let despawn. i'm elvaan and can take more hits then the other two taru combined... so i'm last to pull.
i spawn the biach... and run to the pt in the hall... wait... dosn't follow. so ok, i still have sneak up, its ok.
i move up, stun it... sneak drops and a lich agros me....
its only the 1 lich, out of 3 and a scorp... so ok, thats fine. we can deal.
now... i just used stun, so when the lich starts to cast freeze on me >< and Dude is busy voking the NM... QP is trying to sleep the undead... (duh... dosn't work) and shipp dosn't see anything... so Dude yells "Stun" about the lich... so do i...
then BAM! from 880 HP i'm now at 160... good thing im elvaan or i'd be a taru-cikle... i try to heal myself, tell Dude to kill lich first. he vokes... i die ><
k... we still have lots of MP, no problems...
QP starts to raise me after a bit of a rythm is established and all looks ok.
i rise fromthe dead. cure myself... and die from the Magical Sludge that now agro's me ><
ok... Fu-see-K... ><
alrighty.... they still got MP... still good... but wait... QP is taking hits from the Ele now... he dies trying to cure himself ><... Dude kills off the lich and pulls the Ele. to the far end of the tunnel away from our bodies...
fine. he's holding hate, and barely taking damage. down to about 800 of his 1200. Shipp cures him to full and raises me.... i have no mp... so i have to then med to raise QP... oh well. no biggie. i raise him and continue to med/ regen Dude.
Magical Sludge is at about 90% health still at this point. keep going. by the time weakness wears on me, its at about 65%. qp then is up a few seconds later. and we're on a roll again ^^
we keep Dude cured, and at about 15% health... i get a tingling in my special area >.>
~~~Tripple Burst~~~
i yell it, and we med to 370 mp each or more...
we start casting... we cast... i do 190, QP does 201, shipp does 160...
we're frightened... no mp left... and we barely did any damage... we're all freaking about the hate comming. but it dosn't? Dude keeps hate, finishes off teh Ele in a few more rounds adn we cheer like hell.
we three blm run for the ??? get the Cutscene. and escape out :)
i then warp to windy, run to the Heaven tower, and am the first of us to get the hat ^^
shipp and QP get their hats and we're done!!!
3 Paragons of Black Mage Excelence!!! W00t!!!
Thought I'd add this since I didn't see it anywhere, what that earth charm is for. You go back to Horutoto and you go past the door that needs three mages. In there you'll find the earth door, when you click on it, the charm vanishes and the door opens. You go inside and there's a wilted tree, a little part of the ceiling opens up and light shines on it. Then the three tarus walk in and talk about it, Shantotto and the other complain then leave, Yoran stays and says they never understand. Something about the tree crying out for help, it didn't make any sense to me. You can't go back in there because Kupipi tells you the charm is the last one when you get it, so unless there's something following this up (I have no idea what it would be) it's a waste of time. If you want to see it yourself, I recommend finding a guide, or a windurstian thats past rank 3, to take you to that 3 mage door. I had a guide, so I can't say where to go ^_^;
I got my hat minutes before doing this, the info on the site helps a lot, just make sure you read it all and don't manafont at the wrong time.
I got my hat minutes before doing this, the info on the site helps a lot, just make sure you read it all and don't manafont at the wrong time.
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I can't quite tell you how we got to the three ???s but here's our PT layout :::
61 MNK
61 WHM
61 PLD
70 PLD
61 BLM
61 BLM
53 WAR
65+ RDM
We weren't Windurstian so we didn't have the key item to pass the 3 Mage Door so the RDM came in handy for that and sneak/invising through Toramarai. Once we reached the ??? for the NM we built TP on the Bones and Scorp mobs there so the PLDs could get to 300% for insane Spirits Within damage. This thing was down in less than a minute, total pushover. He's only a little tough to get to.
61 MNK
61 WHM
61 PLD
70 PLD
61 BLM
61 BLM
53 WAR
65+ RDM
We weren't Windurstian so we didn't have the key item to pass the 3 Mage Door so the RDM came in handy for that and sneak/invising through Toramarai. Once we reached the ??? for the NM we built TP on the Bones and Scorp mobs there so the PLDs could get to 300% for insane Spirits Within damage. This thing was down in less than a minute, total pushover. He's only a little tough to get to.
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