Well I've never been that interested in Diabolos for some reason, but someone in my new LS recently asked for help for his SMN and me and my boyfriend agreed to help. In that particular run we failed miserably, I wasn't really doing this for myself so I didn't bother looking up any strategies or what Diabolos does. I just figured it would be like the CoP battle, just uncapped.
Boy was I wrong. -_-
It was partially because some of the people we were helping didn't stun when they needed to, but really the main problem was we didn't have enough melee power at all. I don't know how the leader (him being 0/22) didn't know by then what a good setup would be, but I learned after those two failed battles that the only way me and my boyfriend could kill that jerkbutt is if we totally zerged it and had someone who could stun well.
Now we tried again a few days after with helping another person in LS, with new people. Our winning setup was:
SAM/WAR (me)
WAR/NIN (my fiancee)
SAM/WAR
RNG/SAM
WHM/BLM
RDM/DRK
With this setup we just rushed in, Nearly every melee 2 houred right away. Now I was using a polearm because my GK isn't merited or even capped (not to mention I don't own a hagun yet; I recently got this job to 75), and so I could dish out about 7 penta thrusts all doing around 500-700 to him. RNG sidewindered and barraged like heck, my bf tanked as WAR/NIN, and the other SAM did what Sams do. XD The RDM chainspell stunned near around 60% HP and whm healed. We won in about a minute maybe.
This was our third attempt together too, but I won't go into detail about our prior two tries because it will be a long story. XD But basically me and Del needed to change from me as DRG to SAM, and him from PLD to WAR. Full Attack!
Here are my tips:
-Getting there is easy if you OP Warp to Feuragandi, you can enter the tower right there. You don't really need invis, but the first part in Pso'Xja you may want sneak for the first couple of Gazers in there.
-Before you get into main battle area (once you're in the Shrouded Maw) you can fully buff or even meditate and still keep your TP/buffs. I double meditated in there while we were getting ready so I could Penta thrust twice with sekkanoki in the battle.
-This fight is very difficult, so never go in expecting it will be easy. You have to have at least one person who can stun very well, and it doesn't have to be a rdm/drk. I actually recommend against chainspelling stun since Diabolos will normally build up great resistance to stun after around 5 stuns (thanks to a patch SE put in; he'll gain resistance to spells if used to often). Just have the stunner focus carefully, and have others backup stun accordingly.
-Bring Poison Potions for Sleepga II! You may want to bring an Icarus wing if you feel you need to.
-Honestly I don't see this fight being possible unless you fully zerg or manaburn it. Diabolos needs to die right away.
Waking Dreams
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SummaryDiabolos has informed Kerutoto that he is waiting for you at the Shrouded Maw in Pso'Xja, buried deep in the northern lands. You must respond to his summons so that Kerutoto can meditate free of trouble. WalkthroughFirst of all, to get this quest, you have to have completed Chains of Promathia mission 3-5, Darkness Named. There is no fame requirement. Head to the Rhinostery and talk to Kerutoto to get the quest; she'll mention that Diabolos has been pestering her in her dreams and it is keeping her from being able to meditate properly. She'll give you a key item: Vial of Dream Incense, which is basically your tuning fork for Diabolos. Similar to Tuning Forks and Moon Baubles, everyone in your party must have one to enter the battlefield. To get to Diabolos, you'll have to go through the level 40 capped tower of Pso'Xja, located at (H-8) in Beaucedine Glacier. Since you are capped at 40 and there are mobs that aggro sight, sound, and magic along the way, you'll need Silent Oils and Prism Powders to get through here. If you don't remember the way to The Shrouded Maw, the order of warps you must enter is Red -> Black -> Red -> Black. Going through a warp drops Sneak and Invisible, so make sure to re-apply them after each warp. After the last warp, you'll come upon an elevator, which takes you down to the basement. Go through the Stone Door here to enter The Shrouded Maw. You'll be uncapped here and can prepare for the fight against Diabolos Prime. Once you defeat Diabolos Prime, you will receive the key item: Whisper of Dreams. Head back to Kerutoto for a cutscene where you can choose your reward: the ability to summon Diabolos, a Diabolos's Earring, a Diabolos's Pole, a Diabolos's Ring, or 10,000 gil. Like other avatar quests, this quest is repeatable once per real-life day. Battle NotesDiabolos Prime is similar to the mission fight, except that this time the fight is uncapped, so he has more moves, including his 2-hour: Ruinous Omen. This attack will drop your whole party's HP by either 25%, 50%, or 75%. It's completely random and there is no way to defend against it, so you basically have to rely on luck. He still removes tiles at half health, though the tiles he removes are apparently different this time. Unfortunately, I don't have info on which tiles he does drop for this fight. The common strategy for this fight seems to be BLM cannon PTs, with a 74+ RDM/DRK to Chainspell+Stun him, but obviously it can be done with a more reasonable setup as well. Diabolos Prime is on par with Fenrir Prime in terms of difficulty, though a party of characters lower than 70 has little to no chance of winning. SpoilersThis page last modified 2008-03-29 22:44:03. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Here's how the fight went:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kX1VpINKyWs&feature=PlayList&p=D227E197B4927E86&index=7
The setup was:
75 BLM/WHM x2
75 WHM/BLM
75 RDM/DRK x2
65 SMN/WHM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kX1VpINKyWs&feature=PlayList&p=D227E197B4927E86&index=7
The setup was:
75 BLM/WHM x2
75 WHM/BLM
75 RDM/DRK x2
65 SMN/WHM
Name:Chillo
World:Phoenix
Job:Summoner/Whitemage
World:Phoenix
Job:Summoner/Whitemage
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Yay for the past two weeks ive been doing CoP trying to get past 3-5 so i could do this mission~! so after days of shouting for 3-5 finally got a party together and went 1/3 on the 40 capped Diabolos~ was so happy that i finally got it done- so just for fun i went to Windy flagged this quest and headed to Whitegate where i just did single /sh and to my surpise got several /tells from a couple BLMs and a BLU >_>.... keep in mind that i was doing this just for fun as my Highest lvl is a 43WHM/18BLM lol... so anyways one thing lead to another and this is what we ended up with:
(me)43WHM/18BLM /anon till after the fight
75BLM/37WHM
75BLM/37WHM
75BLM/37RDM
74BLM/37WHM
75BLU/37NIN
now i was excited! took a total for 35mins to put this thing together; and luckily i had my teleport-vazhl spell that i had gotten earlier in the day.. now im broke with 6k to my name just enough for me to buy a yagudo drink and hi-ether~
getting to the shrouded maw was easy as always and everybody in the party except me has said they failed many times already so they were a bit iffy while lookin at my mp lol. of course i didnt tell them my Exact lvl at the time.. well to make a longer story short... the BLMs tore up the battle field and it was over before it even started. kinda looked like this>>> Memento Mori >> FreezeIIx3 @ 12:25 >>> Nightmared >> Ruinous Omen>> Benediction >> gaIII >> fight over~
two deaths only me and a BLM: Battletime 6min 34secs.
now im 1/0 on diabolos prime just because of pure luck that i found these people^^ good luck to all you leechers out there!! 43WHM ftw!!!
Edited, Dec 13th 2007 11:53am by IfritSpadez
(me)43WHM/18BLM /anon till after the fight
75BLM/37WHM
75BLM/37WHM
75BLM/37RDM
74BLM/37WHM
75BLU/37NIN
now i was excited! took a total for 35mins to put this thing together; and luckily i had my teleport-vazhl spell that i had gotten earlier in the day.. now im broke with 6k to my name just enough for me to buy a yagudo drink and hi-ether~
getting to the shrouded maw was easy as always and everybody in the party except me has said they failed many times already so they were a bit iffy while lookin at my mp lol. of course i didnt tell them my Exact lvl at the time.. well to make a longer story short... the BLMs tore up the battle field and it was over before it even started. kinda looked like this>>> Memento Mori >> FreezeIIx3 @ 12:25 >>> Nightmared >> Ruinous Omen>> Benediction >> gaIII >> fight over~
two deaths only me and a BLM: Battletime 6min 34secs.
now im 1/0 on diabolos prime just because of pure luck that i found these people^^ good luck to all you leechers out there!! 43WHM ftw!!!
Edited, Dec 13th 2007 11:53am by IfritSpadez
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i need this fight done badly on remora send me a tell if you can help with this fight X5 BLM75 can i have it thankyou send a message to mirokuxx if u can help
Edited, Nov 1st 2007 3:43am by redchaosremora
Edited, Nov 1st 2007 3:43am by redchaosremora
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Buffed outside the BC, SMN Stoneskin-ga etc.
Really easy fight, even without a stun. Run to the ledge, had the Bard use Soul Voice 2x Minuet and the 3 Monks use Hundreds Fists, he went down very quickly.
He did manage to get off one Nightmare during the fight and the Dragoon died. Set new record of 3 minutes.
Really easy fight, even without a stun. Run to the ledge, had the Bard use Soul Voice 2x Minuet and the 3 Monks use Hundreds Fists, he went down very quickly.
He did manage to get off one Nightmare during the fight and the Dragoon died. Set new record of 3 minutes.
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4 Mnks
2 Rdm
took about a minute and he was stunned 95-98% of the time.
2 Rdm
took about a minute and he was stunned 95-98% of the time.
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Finally beat him last night.
setup was
75 rdm/drk
75 rdm/blm
75 blm/rdm(me)
75 whm/blm
75 pld/sam
75 sam/drg
We go in, Pld drops down, Spinning slash, Sam moves in, and not knowing what was gonna happen, sc or not, i start casting burst 2, they do light sc, i mb burst 2 for about 1700, things start going well, rdm/drk is chainspell stunning, when suddenly a nightmare gets us, he has about 35% hp left at this point, then i see "Diabolos readies Camisado" and sure enough he was aiming for me, i get hit for about 600, and knocked down below where a little hit from a diremite for 78 kills me -.- they end up getting the kill in with the help of a icarus wing, but all in all it was a great fight, beat the record on gilgamesh by about 12 sec. w00t, finally diabolos is mine! :D
setup was
75 rdm/drk
75 rdm/blm
75 blm/rdm(me)
75 whm/blm
75 pld/sam
75 sam/drg
We go in, Pld drops down, Spinning slash, Sam moves in, and not knowing what was gonna happen, sc or not, i start casting burst 2, they do light sc, i mb burst 2 for about 1700, things start going well, rdm/drk is chainspell stunning, when suddenly a nightmare gets us, he has about 35% hp left at this point, then i see "Diabolos readies Camisado" and sure enough he was aiming for me, i get hit for about 600, and knocked down below where a little hit from a diremite for 78 kills me -.- they end up getting the kill in with the help of a icarus wing, but all in all it was a great fight, beat the record on gilgamesh by about 12 sec. w00t, finally diabolos is mine! :D
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I just have to make this point... why does SE think we can survive on a tiny 15k gil... if im not mistaken... rank 10 didnt even give 100k... and 100k can only last you what... 30 minutes if your buying anything useful?. Yes i know i used too many .'s
can you imagine what RMT's would do if this game 100k gil...
Armant wrote:
No DRG for party, camp spot site with 30 dmg, but is it for 20 like 30 dmg when you no hit be it for dd, for 30 dmg instead? or half is 10 for 20 dmg?
Omegag wrote:
Cor should just be using dice rolls and helping with cures anyway
Dynamis Member while prepping for Dynamis Qufim wrote:
Is this where treasure hunter feet drop?
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Finally we have defeated Diabolos. It is a tough battle though. Party setup were:
75 NIN/WAR
75 BLM/WHM
75 BLM/WHM
75 BLM/WHM
74 WHM/BLM
75 RDM/DRK (me)
Joined a Japanese party and with limited Japanese language, I kind of know that they want me to stun Diabolos when it resides Nightmare.
We go into the battle first time, and all of us forgot the key thing like drink poison potion, etc and we are wiped within 5 minutes...lol
Second run, I stun Diabolos but wrong timing and when Diabolos resided Nightmare, Stun is down ><"
Afterwards, the leader said I should have Chainspell and Stun it...lol.. sorry
Third run, as soon as the tank voke it, I Chainspell and Stun Diabolos till my last breath and I was killed when it has like 1% of HP left. Actually, i don't really know whats going on the entire battle, I think the tank try to keep hate, white mage cure the tank, black mage nuke, and I just keep pressing the Stun macro until Diabolos killed me (I think it really hate me cos when it has around 5% HP, it start hitting me like crazy). Once I am dead, the tank followed me (he may be 2hr, not sure), next is white mage or black mage (cant remember). The last black mage finished him off by a Thunder III with 11xx damaged and defeated Diabolos.
At the end, only 2 black mages survived but one of them got killed by Bio III... lol... and i raised myself (got reraise II on =D) I used all my leftover MP to keep the other black mage living....lol
After my 2 weeks hard work leveling DRK is pretty worthy as Diabolos cannot do much when it is stunned all the time...lol
Next fear.. Fenrir.. Awww ; ;
Edited, Feb 5th 2007 8:17am by shomen
75 NIN/WAR
75 BLM/WHM
75 BLM/WHM
75 BLM/WHM
74 WHM/BLM
75 RDM/DRK (me)
Joined a Japanese party and with limited Japanese language, I kind of know that they want me to stun Diabolos when it resides Nightmare.
We go into the battle first time, and all of us forgot the key thing like drink poison potion, etc and we are wiped within 5 minutes...lol
Second run, I stun Diabolos but wrong timing and when Diabolos resided Nightmare, Stun is down ><"
Afterwards, the leader said I should have Chainspell and Stun it...lol.. sorry
Third run, as soon as the tank voke it, I Chainspell and Stun Diabolos till my last breath and I was killed when it has like 1% of HP left. Actually, i don't really know whats going on the entire battle, I think the tank try to keep hate, white mage cure the tank, black mage nuke, and I just keep pressing the Stun macro until Diabolos killed me (I think it really hate me cos when it has around 5% HP, it start hitting me like crazy). Once I am dead, the tank followed me (he may be 2hr, not sure), next is white mage or black mage (cant remember). The last black mage finished him off by a Thunder III with 11xx damaged and defeated Diabolos.
At the end, only 2 black mages survived but one of them got killed by Bio III... lol... and i raised myself (got reraise II on =D) I used all my leftover MP to keep the other black mage living....lol
After my 2 weeks hard work leveling DRK is pretty worthy as Diabolos cannot do much when it is stunned all the time...lol
Next fear.. Fenrir.. Awww ; ;
Edited, Feb 5th 2007 8:17am by shomen
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My own unedited Diabolos avatar fight:
http://files.filefront.com/Diabolos_Avatar_Fightavi/;6289502;;/fileinfo.html
I personally don't think you need a RDM/DRK. Although it's nifty to have one, but Diabolos resisted the stun consecutively on the 4th and 5th stun onwards. You just need to time it right. We beat Diabolos because we did the Pingpong play (you pingpong the mob from one player to another). Our PLD was dying so I grabbed hate from him with a Curaga III, and then he grabbed hate back with Flash, then Cured him to get back hate, etc. etc., Diabolos was so distracted our BLMs had no distraction to nuke him to death.
Yes, we were VERY lucky that time.
http://files.filefront.com/Diabolos_Avatar_Fightavi/;6289502;;/fileinfo.html
I personally don't think you need a RDM/DRK. Although it's nifty to have one, but Diabolos resisted the stun consecutively on the 4th and 5th stun onwards. You just need to time it right. We beat Diabolos because we did the Pingpong play (you pingpong the mob from one player to another). Our PLD was dying so I grabbed hate from him with a Curaga III, and then he grabbed hate back with Flash, then Cured him to get back hate, etc. etc., Diabolos was so distracted our BLMs had no distraction to nuke him to death.
Yes, we were VERY lucky that time.
Just beat him yesterday after 3 tries in 2 days with mostly the same group.
Our final win was with an astonishing:
PLD/WAR
WHM/SMN
MNK/WAR or /NIN I don't remember
SAM/WAR
RNG/NIN
SMN/WHM
I totatally didn't think we would win this time, which is of course why we did. Diabolos used Nightmare 3 times and we only stunned it the first time with a SAM WS. I used Flat Blade on the 3rd one, and totally timed it right, unfortunately it didn't stun. We did amazing though, and beat it with only 1 casualty, the RNG who died after he 2 houred and the rest of us got slept by Nightmare again.
I don't know about this whole RDM/DRK business. I took one before on a different run and when he chainspelled stun he just got resisted like crazy and Diabolos got Nightmare off anyway.
Our final win was with an astonishing:
PLD/WAR
WHM/SMN
MNK/WAR or /NIN I don't remember
SAM/WAR
RNG/NIN
SMN/WHM
I totatally didn't think we would win this time, which is of course why we did. Diabolos used Nightmare 3 times and we only stunned it the first time with a SAM WS. I used Flat Blade on the 3rd one, and totally timed it right, unfortunately it didn't stun. We did amazing though, and beat it with only 1 casualty, the RNG who died after he 2 houred and the rest of us got slept by Nightmare again.
I don't know about this whole RDM/DRK business. I took one before on a different run and when he chainspelled stun he just got resisted like crazy and Diabolos got Nightmare off anyway.
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I just got this baby yesterday ^^
Party was;
Smn/whm 66/33 (me)
Drk/war 75/37
Rdm/drk 75/37
Blm/rdm 75/37
Mnk/war 74/37
Sam/thf 75/37
We did the old Chainspell > Stun Method.
Fight was going fine.
Then Diabolos glitched....fell through the floor...
So our RDM got the message "Unable to see Diabolos"
Couldnt use Stun, so we got hit with nightmare.
Ouch.
{Death} {Mine}
So we called a GM.
heh ^^
{Sour Grapes} {Do you need it?}
Hoping he would refresh our 2hrs so we could try again.
As usual the GM was no help.
"File a complaint..." - right.....
So we warped back to Whitegate, hired a COR for his 2hr.
Reset abilities.
Tried again.
We owned him beating the record.
Shiva was the most useful.
Diamond Dust hit for 95 points of damage.
I think man of the match goes to her.
But yes.
{Diabolos} {Mine}
w00t.
Party was;
Smn/whm 66/33 (me)
Drk/war 75/37
Rdm/drk 75/37
Blm/rdm 75/37
Mnk/war 74/37
Sam/thf 75/37
We did the old Chainspell > Stun Method.
Fight was going fine.
Then Diabolos glitched....fell through the floor...
So our RDM got the message "Unable to see Diabolos"
Couldnt use Stun, so we got hit with nightmare.
Ouch.
{Death} {Mine}
So we called a GM.
heh ^^
{Sour Grapes} {Do you need it?}
Hoping he would refresh our 2hrs so we could try again.
As usual the GM was no help.
"File a complaint..." - right.....
So we warped back to Whitegate, hired a COR for his 2hr.
Reset abilities.
Tried again.
We owned him beating the record.
Shiva was the most useful.
Diamond Dust hit for 95 points of damage.
I think man of the match goes to her.
But yes.
{Diabolos} {Mine}
w00t.
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So my LS helped me & another member get past CoP 3-5, and immediately after I flagged the Waking Dreams quest because like every other player out there who has SMN unlocked, I wanted Diabolos. (That was almost 5 months ago) Ever since then I've tried to get pt's together to go fight Diabolos Prime and almost every single time I get: How many BLM's do you have so far?
wtf?
It appears that there are ppl out there who believe that the only way to beat Diabolos Prime is with 1xPLD and 5xBLM's. Well me being a 75 Monk never could get a pt going or would never be invited either. (Fast forward to 11/10/06)
Finally got into a balanced pt that was heading in, Party Setup:
MNK/NIN 75 (me)
DRG/WAR 75
PLD/WAR 72
WHM/BLM 75
BLM/WHM 75
RDM/BLM 75
1st time we fought Diabolos we had him to a sliver of HP and thought we were gonna win, then everyone Zzzzzzz and all died. The DRG thought that Diabolos cheated and was gonna call a GM on him, but we decided to hit up a COR to get us our 2hr back and we headed back in. This time around we completely and totally dominated Diabolos. The WHM used Benediction to wake everyone up at the same point we all died last time and with expected result. Sorogon Defeats Diabolos. ^ ^
Only reason I wanted to post this was that even last night, we were getting spam /tells that Melee pt can't win. Well guess what, We did and it sure felt good proving all those ppl wrong.
wtf?
It appears that there are ppl out there who believe that the only way to beat Diabolos Prime is with 1xPLD and 5xBLM's. Well me being a 75 Monk never could get a pt going or would never be invited either. (Fast forward to 11/10/06)
Finally got into a balanced pt that was heading in, Party Setup:
MNK/NIN 75 (me)
DRG/WAR 75
PLD/WAR 72
WHM/BLM 75
BLM/WHM 75
RDM/BLM 75
1st time we fought Diabolos we had him to a sliver of HP and thought we were gonna win, then everyone Zzzzzzz and all died. The DRG thought that Diabolos cheated and was gonna call a GM on him, but we decided to hit up a COR to get us our 2hr back and we headed back in. This time around we completely and totally dominated Diabolos. The WHM used Benediction to wake everyone up at the same point we all died last time and with expected result. Sorogon Defeats Diabolos. ^ ^
Only reason I wanted to post this was that even last night, we were getting spam /tells that Melee pt can't win. Well guess what, We did and it sure felt good proving all those ppl wrong.
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ok i just got 3-5 done two days ago tried shouting 1 night after that and got two people that wanted to help so after hours of shouting and waiting i decided to goto bed the next night i decide to shout again finnally got enough people with this set up....
75war/37nin
75rdm/37drk
75mnk/37nin x3
and me 64smn/32whm
already had one person tell me that we was gonna die
ok we get there and the war and 3 mnks use sleeping potions to gain tp to 300%
we go in I use earthen wand ,eliptic howl the eliptic growl while rdm hastes everyone took about 5 minutes so we are rdy we run up and the war and mnk falls down and ws's him then the war does a few things i forgot what then the mnks 2hr needless to say i had enough time to cast cure II once and he was dead clear time was 6 minutes and 12 secounds minus the 5 minute buff time we would have set the record of 1 min 12 sec so needless to say i have yet concord another "impossible to gauge" task that others said i wouldnt at my lvl
75war/37nin
75rdm/37drk
75mnk/37nin x3
and me 64smn/32whm
already had one person tell me that we was gonna die
ok we get there and the war and 3 mnks use sleeping potions to gain tp to 300%
we go in I use earthen wand ,eliptic howl the eliptic growl while rdm hastes everyone took about 5 minutes so we are rdy we run up and the war and mnk falls down and ws's him then the war does a few things i forgot what then the mnks 2hr needless to say i had enough time to cast cure II once and he was dead clear time was 6 minutes and 12 secounds minus the 5 minute buff time we would have set the record of 1 min 12 sec so needless to say i have yet concord another "impossible to gauge" task that others said i wouldnt at my lvl
So this is probably the funniest win ever...
We tried this a few times (2 wipes because of sleepga II > nightmare) and were on our 3rd try. We buff up, go in, right away I SATA Groundstrike then THF SATA Sharkbites, MB for 800 so its already 45% dead 2 seconds into fight. Wonderful! We go...and go....and Nightmare! OH NO! Alt+3! Stun! Yay!! Its stunned. Unfortunately...the other stunner used it too... Cool, ok atleast we stunned it. Nightmare again...damnit....but no one died! SATA Groundstrike again! YAY 10%! Death to PLD, Death to BLM, Death to me; ;... So now its THF WHM and RDM left. Rdm Chainspell > Stuns. Its down to 1%!!! Drain 5%...smack smack 1%. Drain! 4% wtf...slash bash 1%. This goes on for a minute or so. Then...suddenly RDM dies, WHM follows, and then thf. Wipe at 1%...
Ok...we wait for 3 minutes to try again.
Diabolos despawns...
Wow...that was a fast 3 minutes.
A CS!?
A WIN!?!!
DIA 4TW!!!!!!!
We tried this a few times (2 wipes because of sleepga II > nightmare) and were on our 3rd try. We buff up, go in, right away I SATA Groundstrike then THF SATA Sharkbites, MB for 800 so its already 45% dead 2 seconds into fight. Wonderful! We go...and go....and Nightmare! OH NO! Alt+3! Stun! Yay!! Its stunned. Unfortunately...the other stunner used it too... Cool, ok atleast we stunned it. Nightmare again...damnit....but no one died! SATA Groundstrike again! YAY 10%! Death to PLD, Death to BLM, Death to me; ;... So now its THF WHM and RDM left. Rdm Chainspell > Stuns. Its down to 1%!!! Drain 5%...smack smack 1%. Drain! 4% wtf...slash bash 1%. This goes on for a minute or so. Then...suddenly RDM dies, WHM follows, and then thf. Wipe at 1%...
Ok...we wait for 3 minutes to try again.
Diabolos despawns...
Wow...that was a fast 3 minutes.
A CS!?
A WIN!?!!
DIA 4TW!!!!!!!
brilliant.... just brilliant
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That's the best win ever. I salute you, sir.
Scholar
40 posts
Party setup:
PLD/WAR 75
THF/NIN 73
DRG/WAR 75
BLM/WHM 75
WHM/BLM 71
RDM/DRK 75 < me
We went in, buffed up with stoneskin/blink, phalanx II on PLD, and ran up to the drop point. Popped posion potions, dropped and had all the mages on the square diabolos starts at, with the melee directly across on the other side.
I started off casting paralyze, slow, dia II, and gravity while the BLM watched for stun. Refreshed a couple people while waiting until Diabolos used Nightmare. BLM stunned, so I got ready with my stun macro and started watching for the next one.
The BLM then started casting elemental nukes and debuffs while it was my turn to safely stun nightmare. Diabolos kept spamming Sleepga II at this point, good thing we had posion potions. :) At about 50% he used his second Nightmare, so I stunned and got ready to go back to my other duties.
Unfortunently, Diabolos used Nightmare again a couple seconds after I stunned his first one, so the BLM didn't have the chance to get ready. We waited it out, coming dangerously close to wiping, until the WHM woke up and used benediction.
From here on out, it was 2hr spamming. :) I used Chainspell stun, stuck in a dispel in the middle of it to remove his Magic Def. Bonus buff, and the others used their 2hrs. My chainspell was still up when he died.
Overall, really fun, and I finally beat him after around 12 tries. :/
PLD/WAR 75
THF/NIN 73
DRG/WAR 75
BLM/WHM 75
WHM/BLM 71
RDM/DRK 75 < me
We went in, buffed up with stoneskin/blink, phalanx II on PLD, and ran up to the drop point. Popped posion potions, dropped and had all the mages on the square diabolos starts at, with the melee directly across on the other side.
I started off casting paralyze, slow, dia II, and gravity while the BLM watched for stun. Refreshed a couple people while waiting until Diabolos used Nightmare. BLM stunned, so I got ready with my stun macro and started watching for the next one.
The BLM then started casting elemental nukes and debuffs while it was my turn to safely stun nightmare. Diabolos kept spamming Sleepga II at this point, good thing we had posion potions. :) At about 50% he used his second Nightmare, so I stunned and got ready to go back to my other duties.
Unfortunently, Diabolos used Nightmare again a couple seconds after I stunned his first one, so the BLM didn't have the chance to get ready. We waited it out, coming dangerously close to wiping, until the WHM woke up and used benediction.
From here on out, it was 2hr spamming. :) I used Chainspell stun, stuck in a dispel in the middle of it to remove his Magic Def. Bonus buff, and the others used their 2hrs. My chainspell was still up when he died.
Overall, really fun, and I finally beat him after around 12 tries. :/
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An idea was presented to me of a pt setup: SAM, SAM, SAM, RDM/DRK, RDM/DRK, WHM or SMN. (lvl 72-75)
Go in, SAM #1 2 hrs. starts his chains.
SAM #2 and #3 follow and do theirs thereafter.
All this going on while RDM/DRK #1 Chainspell-Stun (and after he's done the other continues) for a full minute of Diabolos being Stunned. WHM or SMN is there as main healer (SMN can Astral Flow to provide more dmg during the SAM's reign).
If enough dmg can be done in the full minute, I believe it can be done. But I haven't tried yet. Anyone know the full potential of 8 Light Skillchains? In my opinion, just by taking a wild guess off the top of my head, that is potentially 8k-15k dmg in just the SAM's alone.
Mana-burns are very common. I know a person that successfully defeated Diabolos with a MNK-burn - MNK-burn is a build up of extreme damage while the SAM-burn is almost instant dmg.
Your thoughts?
Go in, SAM #1 2 hrs. starts his chains.
SAM #2 and #3 follow and do theirs thereafter.
All this going on while RDM/DRK #1 Chainspell-Stun (and after he's done the other continues) for a full minute of Diabolos being Stunned. WHM or SMN is there as main healer (SMN can Astral Flow to provide more dmg during the SAM's reign).
If enough dmg can be done in the full minute, I believe it can be done. But I haven't tried yet. Anyone know the full potential of 8 Light Skillchains? In my opinion, just by taking a wild guess off the top of my head, that is potentially 8k-15k dmg in just the SAM's alone.
Mana-burns are very common. I know a person that successfully defeated Diabolos with a MNK-burn - MNK-burn is a build up of extreme damage while the SAM-burn is almost instant dmg.
Your thoughts?
Better than mages, yet you had 3 in your party. I'd like to see you do this without them.
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WE DID THIS AS MELEE!!! Mnk/war whm/smn smn/whm rdm/drk nin/war sam/war all 75 except smn. we went in ninja voked and we kept it on his square that he starts on and then ninja started to debuff and Me im the monk and the samurai and the rdm all 2 houred rdm did chain stun and me and sam just kicked his butt!!! by the time 2 hours wore we were at 40% hp left At the end of our 2 hours he hit me a few times and did his 2 hour on all of us then hit me with netherblast he took away 75% of our hp i died then whm benedictioned then he hit our rdm a few times then netherblasted him. so he was dead then the samurai got to tanking he hit hima nd then nether blasted him then whm Cure V him and he was back to max hp then he hit more all the time the smn was with leviathan out and hitting him and doing Spinning dive. then he finally hit the samurai 2 times and then nethere blasted again and killedd the samurai then the ninja was tanking. the whole time the ninja was voking and debuffing. the whm was banishing and debuffing the whole time also. after that he was about 10% hp left and the smn did astral flow so mp wasnt being used up and did Spinning thurst again and got it to 1% hp and whm finished it with banish 2!
WE Beat DIABOLOS IN LESS THEN A MINUTE !!!! Both whm and smn were still alive at the end and the ninja and the whm had half mp left and the SMN had about 300 mp left the ninja was full health never been touched!!!!!
MELEEE ARE BETTER THEN MAGES WOOTGA!!!! IN THE WORDS OF SEAN CONNERY "STICK THAT IN YOUR STRAW AND SHUCK IT!! SHUCK IT LONG AND SHUCK IT HARD!!!!" PEACE IM OUT!!
Monk Theanthrax
Samurai Tuhatsue
Red Mage **********
White Mage Stimpy
Ninja Portalchaser
Summoner Everett
It took me all of 1 second to say lets do Diabolos took us all of 5 minutes to get all of us together and took us all of 10 minutes to get ready and setup in shrowwded maw took us 1 minute to kill diabolos OH YEAHH HURRAY for Split Second Deciisions!!!
who are you i mean tellin me to do this without mages is like tellin mages to exp party without melee and tanks i mean Duh we need em to a certain extent. but how everyone is basing killing this mob on pure blm or smn power and we come up and do it with melee attacks and pretty much kill him with melee and in less then 1 minute thats what i mean by Melee is better dumb a.
Edited, Mon Jun 5 23:33:04 2006
WE Beat DIABOLOS IN LESS THEN A MINUTE !!!! Both whm and smn were still alive at the end and the ninja and the whm had half mp left and the SMN had about 300 mp left the ninja was full health never been touched!!!!!
MELEEE ARE BETTER THEN MAGES WOOTGA!!!! IN THE WORDS OF SEAN CONNERY "STICK THAT IN YOUR STRAW AND SHUCK IT!! SHUCK IT LONG AND SHUCK IT HARD!!!!" PEACE IM OUT!!
Monk Theanthrax
Samurai Tuhatsue
Red Mage **********
White Mage Stimpy
Ninja Portalchaser
Summoner Everett
It took me all of 1 second to say lets do Diabolos took us all of 5 minutes to get all of us together and took us all of 10 minutes to get ready and setup in shrowwded maw took us 1 minute to kill diabolos OH YEAHH HURRAY for Split Second Deciisions!!!
who are you i mean tellin me to do this without mages is like tellin mages to exp party without melee and tanks i mean Duh we need em to a certain extent. but how everyone is basing killing this mob on pure blm or smn power and we come up and do it with melee attacks and pretty much kill him with melee and in less then 1 minute thats what i mean by Melee is better dumb a.
Edited, Mon Jun 5 23:33:04 2006
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Your stupidity astounds me. Beat it in under 1 minute yet you had time for the RDM (a mage) to 2 hour and have it wear off.....Ummm thats longer then a minute.
The ability to Stun is a spell...from a mage, NOT MELEE.....
NO MAGES huh but your WHM uses Benediction and a Cure V.---Yep thats being Melee alright.
I believe your error in this post is leading people to believe you used no mages in the fight, which you did use mages.Yyou clarified at the end, but im not sure where you got the info to use only mages. Almost all the posts here have a melee based group with mages and that it is in fact the mage class of job which makes or breaks this fight. You own fight clearly proves your primary tactic was the spellchain stun method which is the recommended (but not exclusive way) for this fight that is a mage tactic.
Edited, Jan 14th 2012 10:04am by Lincster
The ability to Stun is a spell...from a mage, NOT MELEE.....
NO MAGES huh but your WHM uses Benediction and a Cure V.---Yep thats being Melee alright.
I believe your error in this post is leading people to believe you used no mages in the fight, which you did use mages.Yyou clarified at the end, but im not sure where you got the info to use only mages. Almost all the posts here have a melee based group with mages and that it is in fact the mage class of job which makes or breaks this fight. You own fight clearly proves your primary tactic was the spellchain stun method which is the recommended (but not exclusive way) for this fight that is a mage tactic.
Edited, Jan 14th 2012 10:04am by Lincster
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Holy...
I have no idea how....
you dont see any mages in that pt?
you have a whm, and smn...and a rdm -_-
those are...if you believe this, mages
i didnt know smn whm and rdm were changed to a melee class, tell me when this happened...
you would have FAILED miserably w/out mages, you cant have one w/out the other..
Mages and melee coexist, and there better together than separate.
Now please, don't say you have no mages in your pt unless you DON'T, there are 3, thats half that are mage...learn to count good sir...
I have no idea how....
you dont see any mages in that pt?
you have a whm, and smn...and a rdm -_-
those are...if you believe this, mages
i didnt know smn whm and rdm were changed to a melee class, tell me when this happened...
you would have FAILED miserably w/out mages, you cant have one w/out the other..
Mages and melee coexist, and there better together than separate.
Now please, don't say you have no mages in your pt unless you DON'T, there are 3, thats half that are mage...learn to count good sir...
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WE DID THIS AS MELEE!!! Mnk/war whm/smn smn/whm rdm/drk nin/war sam/war MELEEE ARE BETTER THEN MAGES WOOTGA!!!! IN THE WORDS OF SEAN CONNERY "STICK THAT IN YOUR STRAW AND SHUCK IT!! SHUCK IT LONG AND SHUCK IT HARD!!!!" PEACE IM OUT!!
Yup, dont see any mages in that pt....
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Cool, please tell me the secret how i can do spinning dive + astral flow+ heal up mp+ another spinning dive+ running to diabolos and end up with 300 MP as SMN.
I would pay you 10 mil gil if you told me the secret how i can do this, that will make me the best DD ever
I would pay you 10 mil gil if you told me the secret how i can do this, that will make me the best DD ever
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what does he do for smns
Thought I'd share what worked/didn't work during Diabolos prime fight - some of us in my LS just beat him tonight.
Pty setup was:
Lyrah (Me) - 74 RDM/DRK (for chainspell stun)
Shapelesschasm - 73 PLD
Firesoul - 75 WAR
Davess - 73 DRK
Jezter - 75 BLM
Pyke - 75 BLM
We read about the "ledge" rumor - where you can have tank disband before dropping to arena, then reinvite so mages aren't drawn in. We did that w/ all 3 melee, but it opened up a whole mess of problems.
First of all, the melee positioned themselves on 4th square from left on bottom row, which was almost directly below the ledge. So we were having that stupid "cannot see <t>." So PLD died before we could even target him to cure. I couldn't target Diabolos to stun him either. One by one the BLMs & myself were drawn in eventually.
So we came back tonight after learning a lot over the past few tries.
You CAN buff up, etc outside before entering battle arena. You can also use opo opo necklace & sleep tp beforehand as well. This is great so you don't have to waste time inside. WAR & DRK did a light SC, with the BLMs MBing w/ Thundaga III. When I saw the melee readying WS, I started my chainspell & began stunning when I saw SC animation.
Diabolos tried to ready nightmare a few times, but he never got anything off, didn't even try to 2hr either. ^^ We whittled him down fast, and BLMs didn't even 2hr. Only ppl who 2hrd were me (for stun) and PLD (to make sure hate was solid).
As far as positions go, we had mages at Diabolos' initial position (1st row, center), melee 4th square on 5th row.
So keep in mind:
* Buff & sleep TP outside
* Use poison pots to evade sleepga
* Light SC followed by BLM MB
* RDM/DRK chainspell stun when SC kicks off
Good luck to pts out there - you can pwn him without manaburning!
Edited, Mon Apr 10 23:16:01 2006
Pty setup was:
Lyrah (Me) - 74 RDM/DRK (for chainspell stun)
Shapelesschasm - 73 PLD
Firesoul - 75 WAR
Davess - 73 DRK
Jezter - 75 BLM
Pyke - 75 BLM
We read about the "ledge" rumor - where you can have tank disband before dropping to arena, then reinvite so mages aren't drawn in. We did that w/ all 3 melee, but it opened up a whole mess of problems.
First of all, the melee positioned themselves on 4th square from left on bottom row, which was almost directly below the ledge. So we were having that stupid "cannot see <t>." So PLD died before we could even target him to cure. I couldn't target Diabolos to stun him either. One by one the BLMs & myself were drawn in eventually.
So we came back tonight after learning a lot over the past few tries.
You CAN buff up, etc outside before entering battle arena. You can also use opo opo necklace & sleep tp beforehand as well. This is great so you don't have to waste time inside. WAR & DRK did a light SC, with the BLMs MBing w/ Thundaga III. When I saw the melee readying WS, I started my chainspell & began stunning when I saw SC animation.
Diabolos tried to ready nightmare a few times, but he never got anything off, didn't even try to 2hr either. ^^ We whittled him down fast, and BLMs didn't even 2hr. Only ppl who 2hrd were me (for stun) and PLD (to make sure hate was solid).
As far as positions go, we had mages at Diabolos' initial position (1st row, center), melee 4th square on 5th row.
So keep in mind:
* Buff & sleep TP outside
* Use poison pots to evade sleepga
* Light SC followed by BLM MB
* RDM/DRK chainspell stun when SC kicks off
Good luck to pts out there - you can pwn him without manaburning!
Edited, Mon Apr 10 23:16:01 2006
Pulled together a party of friends on 04/03/06 to make a run at him. Was a tough fight but we managed.
Party
Sieka 74Whm/Blm
Joshuaf 75Smn/Whm
Sinharvest 75Sam/War
Vallija 75Blm/Rdm
Malfesance 75Thf/Drk
Jayf 75Pld/War
Blm died at about 50% hp from AOE damage and I fell at 1% hp left. The 3 remaining DD's were just finishing up their 2hrs/WS's at that point and Diabolos fell. Planning another run for tonight. ^^
Edited, Wed Apr 5 10:35:20 2006
Party
Sieka 74Whm/Blm
Joshuaf 75Smn/Whm
Sinharvest 75Sam/War
Vallija 75Blm/Rdm
Malfesance 75Thf/Drk
Jayf 75Pld/War
Blm died at about 50% hp from AOE damage and I fell at 1% hp left. The 3 remaining DD's were just finishing up their 2hrs/WS's at that point and Diabolos fell. Planning another run for tonight. ^^
Edited, Wed Apr 5 10:35:20 2006
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The gil you get is no 10k it is 15k i just killed him a 2nd time and yep it is
Melee (including PLD) slept until 300% TP, and we all went from there. GogoTheNameless. :3
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This attack will drop your whole party's HP by either 25%, 50%, or 75%; it's completely random, and there is no way to defend against it, so you basically have to rely on luck.
ha, i'd avoid it just like all the other avatar two hours "super jump". wont even get touched.
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