Petrifying Pair  

Keeping it to the point. This BCNM is quite easy so far I've done it 6 times. Failed 3, won 3 and yet to see the boots. But I've been 3boxing it. This is a re-vision to my ratio. I've done this 10 times now, failed 3, won 7, and have seen the boots once.

Setup:
30 Pld/War (Hobgoblin Chocolate + 2 Yagudo Drinks)
30 War/Nin (with greataxe) (Hobgoblin Chocolate)
30 Rdm/Blm (Yagudo Drink)


This is what you NEED to know.
1st) Both lizards will cast their evasion up ability when you agro them. This means that they will both stand roughly in place for a few seconds before moving in to attack - Meaning that you have time to run into range and bind one of them before they can even move from their spawn spot.

Secondly...Here's some information from my paladin's log (Some of the dmg taken was with sentinel active)
What I was hit for.
Kalamainu hits you for: 51, 50, 48, 50, 43, 69, 36, 45(crit), 29, 27(tailblow), 39(crit), 32, 44(crit), 23 (He can double attack) (all this damaged happened in this order, spread out over the fight of course)
Kilioa hits you for: 31, 15, 22, 18, 24, 33,

*Kilioa hit my paladin considerably less because the warrior/ninja held agro most of the fight.

- Blizzard is your money maker as a RDM, I've yet to have a blizzard hit for less than 78, or more than 78. Aero hit for 56.

- Both lizards will slow/paralyze with out much difficulty (my enfeebling is maxed)

- Gravity will last at the most 1 minute, it should refresh just before it wears off if it runs full duration. If you haven't used gravity much it does an amazing job at slowing the movement speed, you can very easily kite the mob around.

- Bind will last a little less than a minute in my timings, or right at a minute. Either way its a 40 second recast and should refresh before it wears off if it runs full duration.


Reasons for my failures: 1st Attempt and Failure is after the Hobgoblin chocolate wore off (5minute effect) I selected my Instant Warp scroll instead. I moved back and forth and side to side but ultimately it still went off and the Paladin was back in Sandy. I had killed the first lizard at this point. Also note I had burned Invincible and Chain Spell. I kited the white lizzy around while trying to recover hp/mp on War/Rdm but ran out of time.

2nd Wipe was due to bind and gravity not sticking for full duration and being unable to recast due to recast timer! Rdm died before the first lizard Kilioa died. Pld and War finished off Kilio before the Rdm's dieing Bind wore off. I managed to beat Kalamainu to about 20% before dieing, I did use Mighty Strikes for this.

3rd Wipe was due to my power going out.


My fights are pretty well mapped out prior to me going in. Noting the set-up above the battle goes like this.

I load in all three toons and buff up. Protect II on everyone and blink/aquaviel on the RDM. I rest up, when I que heal on the RDM I draw the melee's weapons and use Utsusemi:Ichi on the warrior. When the RDM is at full mana (444mp) I use Hobgoblin Chocolate on the melee and Elemental Seal on the RDM.

I auto run the warrior than the paladin. When the lizards agro they will cast their evasion up buff, I always kill Kilioa first, and before Kala can move off much I have him bound, then I gravity him (the thing that will cause you the most trouble is not seeing when gravity fades, MAKE SURE YOU KEEP GRAVITY UP! GRAVITY AFTER BIND SO WHEN BIND FADES THEY RUN SLOW.

Next I will sentinel on the paladin and berserk on the warrior. The warrior usually has agro at this point so I voke on paladin and utsusemi again on war. Once utsu is recastable I voke on warrior and try to get agro so i can soak 4 hits and paladin heals himself. How long killing Kilioa will take you greatly depends on how lucky you are with landing your hits. I guesstimate she has around 1200-1500hp. Its also during this time I will slow/para kilioa.

If you're lucky all your binds/gravities will run full cycle and you'll never have much trouble as the Rdm, though another caution is to make sure you only cure III after a voke otherwise you're likely to get agro and that can prove lethal.

I've had no luck turning my back to the stone gaze. With Hobgoblin chocolate on it never really lasts long and with the warrior there as a back up tank its really NP.

Outside of a few minor other details I think you can see the flow of the fight. Watch for food fading, make sure you keep aquaviel up if it happens to fade because you won't live very long if the lizzy being kited isn't bound or gravitied. What else to tell you? I don't see using anything but a RDM as the kiter as working. I think two ninjas could do tank/dd, the idea behind a war/nin with a greataxe is to cause less tp gain by the lizard to do stone gaze, but if you have the right food it isn't that much of a problem (in 6 attempts that's my 2 cents).

Any questions you can reply here or message me in game on Seraph server, character's name is Ephron, Anthean, or Analyia.

Edited, Jan 11th 2009 12:58pm by Valorborn

I'm doing this 2morrow, neone interested on the Odin Server /tell Weeeeeee...(14 e's) and/or /tell Jerizzy

Okay, read as much as I could on this, and wanting to do this BCNM soon as RNG/NIN. Got 2 Hawker's Knives and Noct +1 gear for +racc as well as Zamburak +1 for +ratt. My question is do Bloody Bolts work to drain HP on the lizards, as I think it would make survivability a non-issue when you pull hate from the tank, and can just replenish your own HP.

I got both Ni and Boots on one lucky did it with
Blu/nin
Blu/nin
Rdm/blm

Me and my friends done this and this was the setup RDM/BLU MNK/WAR BLU/NIN.
ok we went in and buffed up then i go and kite the lizzard in like two min i look to check the other and when i do its dead the mnk 2hred the other one
the blu 2hred we killed it verey fast but crap drop =/







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dipichip rdm 48
RDM FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!

this BCNM is a lot easier than you may think i got bored and tried to solo it as a RDM/WHM and it wasnt even a chalenge

I have quit the game but the last thing i wanted to do before i logged out was duo this BCNM.

Went in me THF/NIN and my friend RDM/...don't know.

I had pretty much max EVA/RACC setup possible with
2x archers knifes
emp pin
those eva+3 earrings
AGI+2 rings
bounding boots
nomads mantle
noct +1 legs and body
and scentless armlets for like 26 eva and lots of racc.
used zamburak +1 and blind/bloody and acid bolts.

I went in and my friend bound the white lizard while i just popped a blind bolt and an acid bolt and just shot away with bloody bolts. With the eva i had the thing only hit once or twice and bloody bolts got that back no prob.
You just have to watch for the gaze and turn if you see them do any tp move.

same strat for the white lizard and this BCNM is eeeeeasily duod without twohours. Did two runs and no drop but hey, at least i found a good BCNM that THF can do. It's not the quickest, but if you can't get three people two is all you need.

was really fun

edit: foodwise i used a jackolantern and rdm used a melon pie. no drinks required for the RDM

Edited, Jun 27th 2007 12:46pm by gmDRK

Did 7 runs (all successful) of this tonight with DRG/WHM(me), NIN/WAR, and RDM/BLM.

We went the recommended route. NIN tanked the brown lizard, I poured out as much damage as I could (+Dia and Healing Breath, though I don't think they were necessary in hindsight), and the RDM kited the grey one around. For the most part, this setup works out very well, most runs being very steady if everyone knows what they are doing.

Only close call we had was on the very last try when both Bind and Gravity wore within a few seconds of casting, almost killing the RDM. With Chainspell, he rebounded, cast bind and gravity, and got off a couple Drains on the one we were fighting.

As for drops, we were 2/7 on leaping boots and 1/7 on the gun belt. The other drops were mostly trash with spells and materials that sell for about 1k and a couple other belts. Our NIN, who was 0/46 on Lizzy, commented that this was a MUCH better, easier, less time consuming way of getting those boots, and I couldn't agree more.

Did this 8 times last night as BLU/NIN, BLU/NIN, RDM/BLM and just slaughtered it. BLU get Lizard Killer by 30 which helps a ton in this fight and with two BLU Head Butting and Bludgeoning the first liz, the RDM doesn't even have to worry about them.

Our fight started like this:

The RDM Elemental Seal Bind the white liz while the two Blu engage the other. RDM then casts slow, paralyze, and dia on the brown liz. Blu do their thing and just attack the liz. We tried back tanking with two BLU and it was actually worse to do. BLU should melee and cast spells, because even if one of you gets stoned or silenced, a bludgeon will turn the mob so you can wait it out without death.

Meanwhile the RDM has it easy, between Bind and Grav you should never get hit or run out of mp. In fact, with seal, you can bind to bind and by then the first liz should be dead. Then just slow, paralyze, dia the white one while they wail on it and it's all over.

Set server record every run as we got better and better. Eventually getting it to just a few seconds over 4 minutes.

We had a lot of success last night with this BCNM. I was the RDM/BLM (slightly higher INT for less resists on bind/gravity) and I had two melee DD's (NIN/RNG and DRG/NIN) with utsusemi access. We ate Goblin Chocolate (which gives the same lizard killer effect as hobgoblin chocolate), which really seemed to help out a lot. After the first run where we were getting our feet wet (which we won), neither of the melee's HP ever got in the orange. All the real danger in this one is on the RDM. Here's what I reccommend.

Start the battle with a buff session. Protect II, Shell, Blink, and Aquaveil. Rest to full MP. Eat food. Now, the RDM runs out along the right wall and casts Gravity (has a longer recast timer) on the white lizzy. As soon as the lizards aggro, they use secretion, which should give your melee's plenty of time to get the brown one's attention. Have the melee's lead the brown one to the far left and you lead the white one to the far right. Bind. Run to the far left and cast regen on everyone and cure if needed. Rest until the honkey unbinds (you'll have plenty of warning from the far side of the field with or without gravity), lead him back over and rebind.

Rinse and repeat.

Oh, and as a previous poster said, the very INSTANT that they start readying any special move, turn the @#%^ around.

Hope this helps someone =D

Go war/nin war/nin rdm/blm you can't go wrong, use Hobgoblin Choclate for food which gives resist petrify and lizard killer, the resist pet. doesn't work well in preventing petrify but you will notice petrify wears off alot faster. The lizard killer effect works great, about 30-40% of the time the lizards will be intimidated (sometimes more often, we had a lizard get intimidated about 10x in a row)
Have the RDM kite the white lizard, while tanks work on the brown one. the white one doesn't hit as hard as the brown one so you don't want your rdm getting their asses kicked, as no rdm close to the beginning = death.
I've gone 11 runs on this and we never wiped, we had lost the rdm once and the war once, both times it was because the 2 war's were both petrified, but we still won.
Dropped Utsusemi: Ni most of the time.. like 5 or 6/11 runs, and boots dropped twice, erase never dropped. But that's fine as the boots go for less than the scroll of Utsusemi: Ni now.

If any rdm or war wants to try out this BCNM on Remora send me a /tell on Ortage. I'm always up to do this bcnm cuz it's so easy :)

Jobs:
BLU/THF
RDM/NIN or /BLM
NIN/WAR

0/3 Runs
We don't know what kepy going wrong.
The redmage was able to kite EASILY, but some how at one point or another it all went to hell.
We only got close to killing both once, and always killed the brown one 1st.

I'm thinking now that I'm looking back that most of our failures started by someone being petrified...

just did this one went 2/3 on the boots, this is the easiest bc ever were doin another run.

Well, I recently did 4 runs of this. Setup for both was;
THF/NIN (me)
BLM/WHM
RDM/BLM
The RDM and BLMs were different people each time.
I had 2x archers knifes, beetle rings +1 x2, and as much EVA gear i could get with RACC. The BLM would elemental seal + bind the white, the RDM would just plain bind the left. I would SA brown lizard, and begin spamming bloody bolts after landing an acid. RDM would debuff mine, then get ready to help BLM kite.
It probably took around 10-15 acid bolts to kill the brown one, and his ACC sucks, I did not get hit very much at all with my EVA. The white one is harder, but with both mages focusing on it with me it goes down easy.

Btw, i've done this BCNM a total of like 12 times, 8 sucsesses. The first 4 i did on DRK, no leaping boots dropped. The last 4, (only 2 worked because one person did not know what to do to kite, and another time the RDM was new to BCNMs, and ran in before we were in) and leaping boots dropped both times.

Who knows, because THF has the most use for the boots, maybe a THF is the key to helping get them. 2/2 seems a lot better than 0/4...idk about you.

When fighting lizards, don't be locked on. And turn around immediately is you see a "mob readies whatever" because it could be their petrifying move, and it is uneffective when your back is turned, because it is a gaze move.

That's all I have to say, good luck to anyone doing this.

This BCNM is a joke. PLD/WAR BLM/WHM RDM/NIN. Got boots on 1st run. 2 dispels on the next 2 runs. Not a lot of money to be made unless you get the boots to drop, but fun and simple to say the least. Basically all you need is a tank and a rdm to kite. the 3rd job can be anything to deal dmg.

did it as NIN/WAR, RDM/BLM and a MNK/WAR needed Hi-Potions and food


did it 6 times last night 4/6 on the boots of course the boots didnt drop on
my orb SE owes me leaping boots

i just did this like 5 times last nite and 9 times in total, setup was always BLU/NIN x2, and RDM/BLM (me), all in all its very easy, the blu's just nuke the left lizard (brown i think) w/ head butt and bludgeon, while keeping their backs turned and keeping utsusemi up, he went down in less than 3mins, i'm still kiting the white one w/ gravity and the occasional elemental seal+ bind, after the first went down, they rested up and beat on the second one. i prolly used 4 emergency cures in all of our tries, but i've nvr really been low on mp nor did I NEED to use a yag drink, elvaan low mp ftw^^. Current record holder in Bismarck. the only decent drops we got were Gun Belt, Sarashi, Cestes belt, an Erase (YES ERASE DROPS FROM THESE GUYS^^). very easy, but still waiting on leaping boots O_O;

just got done doing this 6/6 times. we had rdm/whm(me), and 2 war/nin. we are from the same ls, and all 3 of us did it for the first time. the fight is pretty easy, it went like this:

Pre-battle prep. war need defence food (maybe Hi-Potions if u are worried but we didnt need, rdm needs any of the pie foods and 2 pineapple/yag drinks per attemp, again Hi-Ether if you are worried but not needed.

-walk in and buff (rdm protect 2 on all 3, rdm blink, war utsusemi, rdm eat pie, war eat def food, rdm rest while wars wait on mp, then rdm uses juice)

-when ready rdm gravity the right one (white/greyish) while the wars voke the left (brown) one.

-rdm runs away and paralyzes/dia the brown one the wars are fighting. (helps alot, keep them up until its dead, pretty easy to do)

-wars just trade hate after shadows/vokes and do defender when the lizzy does pertrify. (turning away usually doesnt work and is a pain)

-rdm kiting is easy, never done it before until now. do gravity and run to one corner, here you have a few choices. heal the wars, Cure II or regen, recast blink on yourself, or enfeeble. also make a macro before the battle that has /recast "Gravity" and /recast "Bind" on it. this way you know when to do them. when gravity has about 15 left on timer, cast bind. (if it fails hopefully gravity stays on for 15 more seconds and recast it, your blink shadows will help) then bind again, after u can recast blink and repeat. remember 3 things though when kiting. keep an eye on brown lizzy hp/paralyze/dia effects. dont recast gravity if it hasnt worn off, this screws you over badly. and finally keep blink up. youll also have to drink another juice mid battle, this is needed. kiting is the hardest part and its not even that tough.

-when the brown on dies, the wars voke, and rdm parayles/dias, heals if needed and then rests. getting up only when the wars are hurt and rdm has enough mp, nows the time to do divine seal and cure II on a war. repeat, heal/resting until dead lizzy.

-wars repeat the beginning war strategy above and its over

like i said 6/6 times, we are also doing it 6 more times tomorrow. the drops were crap. 10k runs, with one run giving sarashi which sells for 300k. hopefully better luck tomorrow.

*an addtional note, you dont NEED war/nin, you can really pull it off with many combos, just adjust the strategy a bit. a blu tank or pld could easily work very well, use juices for them and they can pretty much heal them selves. drg do great damage at this lvl and bst can use tiger pets with /nin for damage. its really endless, just need a decent rdm. ^^

EDIT: i forgot to add with war/nin and rdm you can do a WS-MB that does half a lizzys life. Raging Axe > Raging Axe > MB with Aero, very usefull. try to find a MB with aero or blizzard as they are weak to these ones.

good luck everyone, hope i helped.



Edited, Aug 17th 2006 at 5:36am EDT by XackOfAsura

Used time proven method 1 RDM/BLM, 2x WAR/NIN

Incredibly easy using the method as so many have already described.

Drops were...

1st fight

Lizard skin
Rapier belt
Iron Ingot
Absorb-AGI

2nd fight

Lizard skin
Scythe belt
Iron Ore
Absorb-AGI (again)

Hoping each to get a pair of leaping boots (so thats 3 in total) within say.. 10 fights although that will be going some :D.

Gonna have another go tomorrow as we had to log before fight 3, then we will do another complete run again. I'll post what else we get.

Okay so I just did this yesterday with some friends and Ls mates. We had a war/nin Aegon, blu/nin Ziuh, rdm/nin Claud, and war/mnk me. The 1st fight we had another rdm/nin go in and it went horribly wrong, nothing stuck and we died.

Then the 2nd fight was me, the blu and rdm. rdm gravity/bind the white wone and paralize/blind the brown one while blu used metalic body, cocoon, and headbutt when shadows droped. It was fairly easy, we went 5 times, switching out people when needed. Aegon went to get a second orb. we won 3/5.

Our drops were Gunbelt (1.4mil) Leaping Boots (1mil) Sarashi (450k) and mace belt (like 10k) lol. so we divided by 4 and everyone gets like 700k a peice, pretty good imo

Also drops Amenthyst

How much damage does each lizard hit for? I read form some of the older posts they were hitting a rdm pretty hard, but how hard are they hitting pld/war or war/mnk?

ok, just did this with a friend of mine, Nedavets, and an LS mate Bigdog. set up was rdm/blm (ned), blu/nin (me), and war/nin (Bigdog). one word describes what happened...OWNAGE!! sooooo easy with this set up. first round got nothing but junk, sorry BD ; ; second round got a scroll of Utsusemi: NI. This setup cant lose, unless you go with a complete retard. Gl to all who attempt.

Done this BCNM a total of 7 times, each time set up of 2 WAR/NIN and me RDM/NIN, go in buff, Bind/Gravity white lizzy, paralyze/slow/blind brown lizzy (paralyze sticks and effects alot >.>). I kite white, and bind it away from WAR/NIN and heal them until bind wears off, always keep gravity on >.> and remeber to reboost shadows as it hits damm hard and can double attack, try to focus on kiteing even if the WARs lose a bit of heath and start whineing.

Drops are good out of the 3 orbs in each run, we have gotten a good drop 1/3 time, its made me about 2.6 mil Fairy server, fun and easy BCNM and hold the record of 7 min 10 seconds xD

probly best off with just doing it with freinds as your bacailly going to get a good drop out of the 3 runs iv found, because if your unlucky to get a crap run on your orb 10k (You Can Have This)

Edited, Thu Jun 22 03:01:45 2006

We just did this 5x tonight... with 5 people: RDM/BLM (Me), a team of PLD/WAR (veteran PLD) and SAM/WAR, and a team of PLD/WAR (not as good PLD) and RNG/WAR.

Easy as pie, though we had a couple of close calls. Zone in, I'd Protect II everyone, Aquaviel, and Blink, then rest to full. I kited the white one, while they beat on the brown one. Kiting as RDM is fun and easy and gives time to rest/help heal/debuff, so it wasn't too difficult.

First run: crap
Second run: Leaping Boots (2 mil) and Sarashi (450k) :D
Third run: Sarashi (450k) :D
Fourth run: Avatar Belt (500k) :D
Fifth run: crap

so awesome drops, too bad we're splitting them evenly 5 way (I say I should get 1/3 of the gil, and everyone else should get 1/6, but they won't go for that :P)

Edited, Sun Jun 18 00:50:51 2006

So we did this bcnm 6x tonight. The setup was NIN/WAR, WAR/NIN, RDM/WHM

The RDM kited the brown lizard while the NIN and I dual tanked the white lizard. Once the white one was down we pulled the brown one over and started into it.

We of course had all the requisite potions and foods. I even gave the RDM a couple of ethers to speed up the last two fights a bit.

Overall we went 4/6. The first wipe was my fault as I went into the BC with level 34 swords. The second went well except the RDM eventually ran out of mp and we couldnt kill the second one fast enough. After those first two runs we went 4/4.

All in all, no drops worth more then 10k. In fact we had the same drop list back to back at one point. Sardonyx, lizard skin, steel ingot and beetle broth... So the fights were mostly successfull but the run cost me a lot more then I made.