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Sold by Merchants for about 319 gil:
Guild Level: Amateur

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# Feb 12 2009 at 1:20 PM Rating: Decent
how much do these sell for at AH?
# Feb 12 2009 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
17 posts
Depends on what server your on. All servers have different prices. Dunno how much it goes for in Phoenix been awhile since I've been on FF
# Mar 06 2006 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
No you don't get 2 of these when you HQ it. Nothing happens when you HQ one. You get the animation and that's it.
# Feb 02 2006 at 11:15 PM Rating: Decent
To Crazieman:

You can steal them easily from the goblins, well at least in Sarutbuta. I was a LVL 7 THF and had a 95% steal rate. One failed attempt then the rest was coming like no tommorrow.

As for the synthing, can any one confirm that the receipe for Bronze Ingot that involves 4x Beastcoins is capped at LVL 2? I had it down as LVL 1 synth.
i need to get an understanding on Desynth
# Aug 09 2005 at 8:06 PM Rating: Decent
25 posts
Ive been raking in lots of Fire Crystals, and what better way to use them than Smithing? (or selling) anyways, i got a +1 version on a Tin Ore, and 3 Coppor Ore, gave me 1 Bronze Ingot...Desynthed Bronze Leggings and got 2 Bronze Ingots, got a +1 on Bronze leggings and only got 1 Ingot, is it random the number you get, or is this Square Enix's idea of a sick prank o.O
i need to get an understanding on Desynth
# Aug 10 2006 at 4:06 PM Rating: Good
70 posts
All synths of Ingots from ore result in a singular ingot regardless of HQ.

Desynths are item dependant. Usually the number of ingots possible to attain from a desynth is directly linked to the amount of ingots used to make the item in the first place. The HQ normally gives you the number of ingots originally used to make the item with the NQ giving you one less. It wouldn't make sense to be able to desynth an item back to more than it's core ingredients. I.e desynthing a silver ring to get 3 silver ingots when it only took 2 silver ingots to make it.

It is worth noting that beastman items are usually different regarding ingot returns. I can only speak from goldsmithing but usually the NQ and HQ1 give you the same result and the HQ2 gives you a rarer ingot. I.e Moblin Mail, NQ and HQ1 results in 3 Brass Ingots and HQ2 results in a Gold ingot.

there will probably be exceptions that I've overlooked though.
#REDACTED, Posted: May 09 2005 at 2:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this has to be the easiest way to make money for a lvl 1 blm, just last night i got my goldsmithing to lvl 3 and got 4 stacks of these and make around 40k which is crazy for my first day as this character! i highly recommend goldsmithing craft
damn it
# Feb 06 2005 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
well take it from someone that trying to lvl to 15 on this i farm lightning clusters for 3-4 game days and got 29 stacks and made some gil fighting gobs when there was no lightning out well after desyn leather and the bronze mace i got one lvl in smithing and not even one lvl in leather is it just me but when to desyn are you not to lvl on this items? if some one got better then me please quote me or pm me or was it just a bad day when i desyn i also have moghelp in desyning does that change the resson i don't get points -_-
RE: damn it
# Mar 10 2005 at 6:12 PM Rating: Default
2,214 posts
Desynthing is really kind of an art. You can not just blindly attack it or you are just wasting gil. Pick your day well... And I say day because I have only found one day good for de-synthing and that is Dark day (that is a personal preference really, I can never remember the opposite of lightning... but that is supposed to work just as well). Now, setup your mog house to have at lease 1 (I would recommend ALOT more) point of Lightning De-synth furniture (you can get it from the fashion quest in windy if you are hard up... or is it the person at the airship... sorry too lazy to look it up, I just know that was the first item I started with). Now, rumor has it any de-synth will work (dark or lightning), but I like to stick with lightning for lightning de-synths... haven't found anything good for wind de-synths... (sorry I ramble.
Ok, so you have your mog house setup, and you have your crystals, and your stuff you want to de-synth. I would recommend using your highest lvl job (personal theory). This theory is basically the stat you have that is influenced best by that element is the stat you want high. In this case, lightning, which is dex.
Being a mithra thf I have noticed that my de-synth success far outshines what anyone ever says, which got me to thinking... and I have tried with other jobs on different days and have found that with my thf in full dex gear has a higher critical success rate then any of my other jobs. Unfortunately, I don't have numbers to back that up, but, that is my experience so take it with a grain of salt and try or do, I can't see the harm in going with your highest job when attempting to synth...

Oh, and lastly go to the guild!!! I can't stress that enough. Doesn't matter if you are above the lvl of the item you are crafting (in which case you are not trying to skill up...) or below. PAID synth support helps immensely. There are 2 assistants that do not charge and one that does... unless you are there for a quick craft do not go to the free ones... cause you get what you pay for.

With that being said, when de-synthing gobby masks to glass fibers on a non-dark day I have about a 1-10 success rate with about 3-5 of those being HQ 1-2s. On Dark day with synth support and mog enhancement I get over 60% success rate and less then 10% loss. However, the big boost is from the 70+% HQ 4 results. Seriously 8 out of 10 of my gobby masks make 8 glass fibers on a good day... some day I will try and find out what it takes to make it a good day, but you do the math. 1 gobby mask + 1 lightning crystal + 2 fire crystals + 2 light crystals = 1 stack of prism powders... I have posted this a million times, and will continue to praise de-synth.

Just remeber, jsut like a job you need to attack this with precision or you will get frustrated.

Now all my information here is not complete, there is minor details (such as moon phase or god help me if position matters), but, I average higher then the standard 50% on de-synthing, so something has to be in my favor.

RE: damn it
# Mar 10 2005 at 5:10 PM Rating: Decent
To answer what i think was your question, skillups on desynths are very rare.
RE: damn it
# May 16 2005 at 8:26 PM Rating: Decent
i get skillups on desynthing all the time
RE: damn it
# Mar 01 2005 at 11:43 AM Rating: Excellent
634 posts
It's called punctuation and spelling. Use them and people maybe can understand your posts... and therefore maybe will help you.

Ramble on like this and you'll just get rated down and ignored.
damn it
# Feb 06 2005 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
well take it from someone that trying to lvl to 15 on this i farm lightning clusters for 3-4 game days and got 29 stacks and made some gil fighting gobs when there was no lightning out well after desyn leather and the bronze mace i got one lvl in smithing and not even one lvl in leather is it just me but when to desyn are you not to lvl on this items? if some one got better then me please quote me or pm me or was it just a bad day when i desyn i also have moghelp in desyning does that change the resson i don't get points -_-
Tried to desynth Bronze Maces
# Jan 19 2005 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
379 posts
Damn double posts.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Edited, Wed Jan 19 16:58:53 2005
Tried to desynth Bronze Maces
# Jan 19 2005 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
379 posts
12 lightning crystals and 5 bronze maces later, and I had TWO successes, both with the HQ animation, but only received one ingot each time (so 2 ingots is probably the HQ+2 version)

I have lvl 51 Smithing skill, and did it on earth/water days. Just because it lists 15 as the skill required, doesn't mean it's easy to do.
# Dec 12 2004 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
71 posts
first of all they are not lvl 0 synths that is not what (--) means that means they dont know what they are. Second desynthing usually requires a certain rank in a guild as far as i can tell. For example, i'm 22 smithing and it wont let me desynth backplates because i need to be a higher rank in the guild. Also i saw that under iron ingots recipes that goblin items are used to desynth into them and they are level 30 synth. Therefore i would believe that with a skill of about 20 or so you would be able to get bronze out of them. but as for backplates maybe a skill of 30? i'm not sure but i do know that goblin items are not a 0 lvl synth and i tried to desynth a helm at 15 and failed. I would also like to state that to make a ingot it is normally 4 ore + crystal or 1 ore + 6 nuggets + crystal with normal synthesis and using 4 copper ore will get u a copper ingot not a bronze. Bronze is 1 tin + 3 copper not 4 copper. Also, if u HQ an ingot it will not make 2 it can possibly make a better ingot ex. 4 iron ore = iron ingot but HQ is steel.

Edited, Sun Dec 12 20:50:37 2004
Lighting Crystal + Goblin Helm combine
# Oct 25 2004 at 6:27 AM Rating: Default
I think the smithting level cap for the combine Lighting Crystal + Goblin Helm
is not '--'

Because I crafted a Bronze Ingot with this combine, with a level of smithing
at 14, and I have increased my smithin level with 0,1 point.

So we can say, the level cap for the combine Lighting Crystal + Goblin Helm is
at minimum 15, maybe more.


Ragnarok server.
Be Patient
# Oct 16 2004 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
it takes time to raise your skill points. if you want to be serious in a skill, then u need to be decently wealthy and very patient. the skills up and determenation of success odds also depends on the day and the lunar phase
No skillpoints!?
# Oct 16 2004 at 8:44 PM Rating: Decent
Ok, I have a question about skillpoints:
I wanted to start smithing because I live in Bastok and wanted to earn some money.
I go to the smithing-guild and sign myself up. There, I learn I could make a bronze-ingot out of 4 beastcoins and a fire-crystal. I get myself some beastcoins and fire-crystals, I synthesize the stuff and get a bronze-ingot. Perfect! But what the? No smithingskill points? I try again, nothing! I try 5 more times, still no skill points! What is wrong!!!? I'm still lv 0 (amateur). Can somebody please help me! What am I doing wrong?

Edited, Sat Oct 16 22:32:34 2004
RE: No skillpoints!?
# Sep 04 2005 at 7:12 PM Rating: Decent
Your not doing anything wrong. What you do is synth things that are over your level, like, since you are L v. 0 I would reccomend you us Copper ore 3x and Tin ore 1x. He is a site of what you should synth at low levels and up: http://ffxi.cannotlinkto/search/search.php
# Oct 15 2004 at 9:39 AM Rating: Decent
I think the HQ result is a Steel Ingot. Because i had obtained a Steel Ingot with a Lighting + Goblin Helm combine, and I had the special combine song.
# Oct 01 2004 at 8:49 AM Rating: Decent
i got bored the other day and i needed some ingots so i tried desynthing some bronze maces. I'm lvl 5 smithing and didn't think it would work, but it did, i got 2 bronze ingots, NOT HQ. i think the lvl is around lvl 14 or higher because i failed 10 out of 12 times afterward with image support on. I don't know if ne1 has posted this yet so here goes.

Around lvl 15. yields 1, sometimes 2 and prob a max of 3. lightning crystal of course. bronze mace. thats all u need
# Jul 31 2004 at 7:00 PM Rating: Decent
um, whats the HQ og this?

Edited, Sat Jul 31 20:00:42 2004
RE: ?
# Sep 03 2004 at 7:42 AM Rating: Excellent
The HQ is actually just 1 ingot. On things like Ingots, HQ don't do anything. you'll still get the HQ animation, but it will just say "you synthesized a ____ Ingot!" and that will be it.
RE: ?
# Aug 23 2004 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
the HQ is just making 2 or more of them
RE: ?
# Aug 23 2004 at 9:51 AM Rating: Default
the HQ is just making 2 or more of them
Bronze Ingot
# May 14 2004 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
Hi 1st Post

The Yagudo Bead Necklace and Lighting Crystal yields a Copper Ingot why this Recipe it's still here
I Have lvl 3 Smithing and this combination adds me Goldsmithing points???


Edited, Fri May 14 16:55:55 2004
# May 12 2004 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
33 posts
1 lightning crystal
1 yugado bead necklace
yield copper ignot

nuggets are grown from plants
beast coins are attained through stealing (rarely dropped)
silver beastcoins are dropped by the second tier yugados (persecutor, medicant, piper)

Edited, Wed May 12 11:03:48 2004
What is going on?
# May 09 2004 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
As I was brouseing the smithing list i noticed something very odd. To make a Bronze Ingot it says you can use a Lightning Crystal and a Quadav Backplate. But yet it says for the Iron Ingot you can use a Lightning Crystal and a Quadav backplate. It also says the same thing for a Silver Ignot. Is this just a mistake or does it depend on your skill level which of the three you getor what?

Edited, Mon May 10 15:34:05 2004
RE: What is going on?
# May 13 2004 at 2:04 AM Rating: Excellent
Demoncell, The lightning crystals are most commonly used for Desynthesis, I.E. the breaking apart of an item into what was used to make it.

Therefore, the Quadav's must use a silver ingot, a bronze ingot, and an iron ingot to make Quadav Backplates.

Edited, Thu May 13 03:04:13 2004
RE: What is going on?
# May 16 2004 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
Thank you, at least now I understand. ^_^
Level 0 wrong
# Mar 01 2004 at 8:45 AM Rating: Default
I'm, lv 0 in smithing and it won't even let me try this or mail. Haven't tried using synth support.

11 RDM
RE: Level 0 wrong
# Mar 22 2004 at 10:01 AM Rating: Default
567 posts
Uh level 51 is way wrong. I know this recipe works at level 0.
RE: Level 0 wrong
# Apr 17 2005 at 8:33 PM Rating: Decent
This recipe is level 51 for DESYNTH ONLY. Look at the recipes guys! I mean come on! It says it is a lvl 2 Smith with Copper Ore x3 and Tin Ore x1. It says it is a lvl 51 Smith with a Lighting Crystal and a Quadav Backplate. Duh.
Melting Goblin Helm and Mail
# Feb 22 2004 at 10:11 AM Rating: Default
I am 4th level in smithing and it will let me attempt to melt down a helm and mail with a lightning crystal but I failed with both. I didnt use the guildies to help me synthesize it(support). Is it just me but shouldn't ingots be 0 level stuff? Does anyone know what level you need to be to consistantly be able to make ingots out of goblin stuff?
RE: Melting Goblin Helm and Mail
# Feb 29 2004 at 12:49 PM Rating: Default
I agree... I waited until I was Smithing level 1 and the system told me that the the Goblin Mail/Helm synth was above my skill, so that stuff definately ISN'T 0-level...
RE: Melting Goblin Helm and Mail
# May 12 2004 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
149 posts
Although I doubt it is level 1 it is not high level either. Lightning synthesis is always risky. you will fail at least 50% of the time if not more, no matter what level you are. However what level you are determines what you will get from the item. For instance Goblim mail break down into 3 bronze ingots OR 2 iron ingots OR 1 steel ingot when you apply a lightning crystal.

This is a bad way to get bronze as you will fail often and you will not get skill out of it, so I do not recommend you try it.
# Feb 04 2004 at 6:50 PM Rating: Default
The mob that u are looking for that drop beast coins in windurst are called yagudo's (bird like men). The best place 2 get these coins are in giddeus. They drop both beastcoins and silver beastcoins.

In answer to confused. You can use either way to synth bronze ingot. 4x beastcoin or 3x copper ore and 1x tin ore. Both are synth'd with fire.

In answer to coin. BEASTMAN SEALS are not the same as beastman coins. Seals are used for higher lvl players (was told for lvl 40). Just to let u know that they are harder to get the higher lvl you are so start collecting them now. They do stack to 99.

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#Anonymous, Posted: Jan 28 2004 at 11:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What should I make to get my smithing
#Anonymous, Posted: Jan 28 2004 at 11:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What should I make to get my smithing
Reverse the Process
# Jan 25 2004 at 7:40 PM Rating: Default
Once you've made Bronze Sheets
Using a Lightning Crystal
How do you get it Back into Bronze Ignots?
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