trio'd just now, party setup BLU/NIN BLU/NIN RDM/BLM. was a little hairy when the scorps started waking up at different times and going after the RDM, but between gravity and bind, the RDM was able to stay alive for the most part. had some bad luck at the end, though, as an Earth Pounder landed just as the RDM ran up to cure the other BLU and took them both out. I killed the last scorp with a Frenetic Rip and ~130 HP.
Crap drops, of course. But it was fun.
Operation Desert Swarm
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In-Game TextDescriptionTake 30 Kindred Seals and trade them to Shami in Port Jeuno and choose a Lachesis Orb. To enter the battle field, trade the Lachesis Orb to the Burning Circle in Waughroon Shrine and choose the battle Operation Desert Swarm. You can take up to 6 people in and you have 30 minutes to defeat it. You will fight 6 scorpions. Strategies6x Solo jobs: 6 people, capable of soloing a scorpion pull individual scorpions to the corners of the arena, and to the opening cave area, far away enough to avoid AOE and beat the crap out of their own scorpions. The remaining scorpions get stronger as the their brethren are killed off. The last one to die takes about half as much damage as they do in the beginning and will hit significantly harder as well. Due to this, it's a good idea to coordinate the kills so that they all time at roughly the same time. BLMS: 2 to 6. SpoilersThis page last modified 2009-03-18 03:40:51. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Hey guys just thought I'd share the results of my most recent run.
Let me start by saying I've done this BCMN about 24 times and have never seen a Serket ring drop. Most of those runs I ended up with the typical garbage worth like 10k.
I organized a pick up group of 7 people, and we used the 5 soloers strat with a rdm. The group was somthing like:
pld/nin
sam/nin
rdm/whm
nin/war(me)
nin/war
smn/whm
thf/nin
We had not 1 but 2 serket rings drop over the course of 7 runs. The first ring dropped the 2nd or 3rd run, and the 2nd ring dropped on my run which was the last. BTW I had the THF pop my chest.
Anyway, the point of this post is 2 things I noticed on this run which may or may not have affected our drops. First it was lightsday, and second and more relevent this run took place 2-3 hours after the new JP week began.
If the JP week ends midnight on saturday JST, taking daylight savings into account, that translates to 11AM EST, the new week begins. Our runs took place noon-3PM EST.
So is it possible that if you attempt this early in the week mabey you'll see better drops. Like mabey there some sort of quota per week. SE decides ok 10 Serket rings will drop this week, and just ealrier u get there the better odds you have?
This is purely speculation take from it whatever you want, but mabey theres somthing to it. Thats our story.
Let me start by saying I've done this BCMN about 24 times and have never seen a Serket ring drop. Most of those runs I ended up with the typical garbage worth like 10k.
I organized a pick up group of 7 people, and we used the 5 soloers strat with a rdm. The group was somthing like:
pld/nin
sam/nin
rdm/whm
nin/war(me)
nin/war
smn/whm
thf/nin
We had not 1 but 2 serket rings drop over the course of 7 runs. The first ring dropped the 2nd or 3rd run, and the 2nd ring dropped on my run which was the last. BTW I had the THF pop my chest.
Anyway, the point of this post is 2 things I noticed on this run which may or may not have affected our drops. First it was lightsday, and second and more relevent this run took place 2-3 hours after the new JP week began.
If the JP week ends midnight on saturday JST, taking daylight savings into account, that translates to 11AM EST, the new week begins. Our runs took place noon-3PM EST.
So is it possible that if you attempt this early in the week mabey you'll see better drops. Like mabey there some sort of quota per week. SE decides ok 10 Serket rings will drop this week, and just ealrier u get there the better odds you have?
This is purely speculation take from it whatever you want, but mabey theres somthing to it. Thats our story.
Did this last night 5 times with this set-up:
72 DRG/WHM (Me)
75 SAM/WAR
75 RDM/BLM
75 NIN/???
75 MNK/NIN
Was quite easy after our first run, in which we died, because we had the Scorps too close to each other. RDM would run in ES + Sleppga and just ran around and healed everyone that needed it. I held my own with HB III and fighting my own Scorp, while the other 3 DD's held their own with their Scorps. Whoever killed their Scorp first would either go help someone else or claim 1 of the 2 last Scorps to finish it all off.
The record on Bismarck was 1 min 25 secs, we cleared all 4 we won usually from 5-6 mins. So all in all not bad after our first try.
2 drops were constant in all 4 wins, the HQ Scorp Shell and the Ninja rare/ex weapon. So it would seem that the HQ Shell and one of the rare/ex weapons are 100% drops. We did not however get any good drops on any of the 4 runs ><
Good luck to others^^
72 DRG/WHM (Me)
75 SAM/WAR
75 RDM/BLM
75 NIN/???
75 MNK/NIN
Was quite easy after our first run, in which we died, because we had the Scorps too close to each other. RDM would run in ES + Sleppga and just ran around and healed everyone that needed it. I held my own with HB III and fighting my own Scorp, while the other 3 DD's held their own with their Scorps. Whoever killed their Scorp first would either go help someone else or claim 1 of the 2 last Scorps to finish it all off.
The record on Bismarck was 1 min 25 secs, we cleared all 4 we won usually from 5-6 mins. So all in all not bad after our first try.
2 drops were constant in all 4 wins, the HQ Scorp Shell and the Ninja rare/ex weapon. So it would seem that the HQ Shell and one of the rare/ex weapons are 100% drops. We did not however get any good drops on any of the 4 runs ><
Good luck to others^^
So what's the drop rate on this Serket Ring cause today my BF(Mikeblue) just got one and was hoping I should try as well.
Every time I do this one, I always get crappy drops never getting over 20k.
Just did this last night as mnk/nin, blu/nin, war/nin, pld/nin, rdm/nin and pld/war. I was the pld/war and took down my mob with ease. Also to joefriend when i did it on asura the record was standing at 1 min 9, my group took about 5 mins so you still killed our time :).
Scholar
26 posts
I do this on rdm/blm and blm/rdm 2 boxed. Nuff said.
9 posts
This blows.. I did an ODS run after the update and got a pole straps wich is btw a quite common drop, it dropped 3/6 on the run we had and the sword strap dropped 3/6 so its seems to be a 50/50 drop. But anyways, I got a pole strap on my orb and thought that I should sell it asap or else it will drop drasticly in price so I sold it for 120k(wich was the listed price on AH) The next day, it was worth 600k and I someone shouting offering 1mill. That really blows.. It will most likely drop alot in price unless SE do something about the ODS drop rate.
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This blows.. I did an ODS run after the update and got a pole straps wich is btw a quite common drop, it dropped 3/6 on the run we had and the sword strap dropped 3/6 so its seems to be a 50/50 drop. But anyways, I got a pole strap on my orb and thought that I should sell it asap or else it will drop drasticly in price so I sold it for 120k(wich was the listed price on AH) The next day, it was worth 600k and I someone shouting offering 1mill. That really blows.. It will most likely drop alot in price unless SE do something about the ODS drop rate.
And yeah, I'm on Midgard
And yeah, I'm on Midgard
For all those people that keep saying that only nin, mnk, thf, and pet jobs can do this maybe that should atleast let others try. I have done this about 30 times as pld/nin and 9/10 I come out the healthiest member and i have sceen my wife do this as whm/nin without taking a single point of dmg. Yes she does get hit but thats what stoneskin and flash are for untill her ni or ichi timer is up. So dont be discrimitive against jobs just because alla doesnt have that job listed. We all know how "accurate" some of the post on this site are.
Edit: oh ya forgot to mention not once have either of us ever died or ever come close to it i think the worse i ended up with was about 67% hp and 25% mp and that was a very sloppy run where one of the other members died right off the start but with having a whm and pld around we were able to keep the member who had 2 on them alive where in most set ups they would of died cause of no healing magic and then most likly causeing a wipe
Edited, Aug 5th 2007 11:05am by princeandprincess
Edit: oh ya forgot to mention not once have either of us ever died or ever come close to it i think the worse i ended up with was about 67% hp and 25% mp and that was a very sloppy run where one of the other members died right off the start but with having a whm and pld around we were able to keep the member who had 2 on them alive where in most set ups they would of died cause of no healing magic and then most likly causeing a wipe
Edited, Aug 5th 2007 11:05am by princeandprincess
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I agree 100%, I've solod my own scorpion plenty of times on a 75 drk/war.... I did die once but the only reason I did is because I use souleater. Aint much left to the scorpion after 1.4k guillotine. But needless to say the thf in my pt one-shotted what was left of it with a normal melee swing XD.
Group and I went out to tackle this KSNM as always on full moon, mainly melees (drk/nin, mnk/nin, nin/war, etc etc all lvl 75). There were also 4 other pts ready to take on this KSNM as well. For some reason, soloing your own scorp got extremely tough all of a sudden, since the scorps continuously did back to back TP moves (earth pounder mostly) and did major critical hits afterwards that pretty much ended the KSNM rapidly. Not only did our pt experience it, but 2 of the other pts that were with us barely made it through it as well (they defaulted back to the sleep method with their rdms). We thought this was simply bad coincidence and did the runs two more times, yet we keep getting the same situation again for both runs. At the moment, I don't know if I should consider this bad luck or what but I had full confidence with my LS members since we did this so many times in the past.
Edited, Jun 28th 2007 1:08am by twilightmaker
Edited, Jun 28th 2007 1:08am by twilightmaker
6 posts
I cannot stress enough how easy this is. Did this lastnight with a few friends and a few strangers.
75 NIN/WAR (me)
75 MNK/NIN
75 THF/NIN
75 THF/NIN
75 RDM/WHM !
The RDM didn't have BLM sub. We'd thought it may be a problem cause he didn't have sleepga, but you can easily get past this as long as everyone knows which one they are going to fight. We'd do a little layout and say which number we wanted.
1 2 3
4 5 6
It was quite easy and we did it really fast. The RDM just kept one slept as everyone solo'd their own and beat down until the last one was dead. Just be sure everyone names their numbers if they are strangers in the beginning of each run so no one forgets. Better safe than sorry I say. :P
75 NIN/WAR (me)
75 MNK/NIN
75 THF/NIN
75 THF/NIN
75 RDM/WHM !
The RDM didn't have BLM sub. We'd thought it may be a problem cause he didn't have sleepga, but you can easily get past this as long as everyone knows which one they are going to fight. We'd do a little layout and say which number we wanted.
1 2 3
4 5 6
It was quite easy and we did it really fast. The RDM just kept one slept as everyone solo'd their own and beat down until the last one was dead. Just be sure everyone names their numbers if they are strangers in the beginning of each run so no one forgets. Better safe than sorry I say. :P
I have done about four runs (thats 4x6=24 battles) over the alst week and have taken note of the significance of day and moon phase. Every day apart from Darksday gave bad drops. It was a little to coincidental to call a fluke. All the drops that you would do this for: V Claw, Serket ring, Ocl. Ingot, all dropped on Darksday (69% Waning Giddeous) but as soon as it turned to Firesday the drops went to the more regular Hierach belt, HQ Scorp shell etc etc. This has happened twice over the last week. I certainly will plan my next trip to be on Darksday! I do not know if the moon phase has anything to do with this.
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Drop rate on ring is not that great. We went on 10+ runs without even getting a D ingot, V claw, or ring.
For the record.
Any decent WHM/NIN can solo one of these. Just make sure your skills are honed for solo and your club is capped.
Any decent WHM/NIN can solo one of these. Just make sure your skills are honed for solo and your club is capped.
ok i got sea robbers, morgenstern for weapon nobles and bless for body, blessed hands, feet, legs, Potent belt, c-chain, and the rest MP gear with capped clubs, evasion, and magic would i be able to do it
edit: forgot turban for head
Edited, May 3rd 2007 1:20am by princeandprincess
Edit #2: I kicked its *** !!!!! so yes any whm with the same gear i got can do this no sweat first round i was so worried took extra precuations and well 0 dmg taken that round!!
Edited, Aug 8th 2007 3:45pm by princeandprincess
edit: forgot turban for head
Edited, May 3rd 2007 1:20am by princeandprincess
Edit #2: I kicked its *** !!!!! so yes any whm with the same gear i got can do this no sweat first round i was so worried took extra precuations and well 0 dmg taken that round!!
Edited, Aug 8th 2007 3:45pm by princeandprincess
So, after the update recently, Serket Ring now drops from this KSNM. A LS friend of mine got one recently on her first and only run, so I'm wondering if she was just lucky, or if the drop rate is at all decent. I would like to save up my KSs for a KSNM99, but if I have a chance of getting one of those Rings (Not to mention one of those Venemous Claws. Wishful thinking, but possible.), I would consider giving this a run.
If anyone has had any experience with this KSNM since the addition, I'd appriciate any advice.
EDIT--- I think I found my answer. Appearantly, I was slightly misinformed about her runs. She participated in 29 runs (Not all her Orbs, obviously.) and a Serket Ring dropped on two of the runs. So yeah. Definitely going to save my KSs up for a KSNM99. Thank you.
Edited, Mar 29th 2007 2:41pm by HistoryMaker
If anyone has had any experience with this KSNM since the addition, I'd appriciate any advice.
EDIT--- I think I found my answer. Appearantly, I was slightly misinformed about her runs. She participated in 29 runs (Not all her Orbs, obviously.) and a Serket Ring dropped on two of the runs. So yeah. Definitely going to save my KSs up for a KSNM99. Thank you.
Edited, Mar 29th 2007 2:41pm by HistoryMaker
I'm planning to do this one soon. Just a recap, correct me if I'm wrong since I didn't try that KSNM, and I'm basing this on what I read here: The jobs that can solo a Scorpion are:
- DRG
- BST
- RDM
- NIN
- MNK, WAR, DRK as long as they are backed by a WHM
My question: could a SMN solo one? With no mage back up, my plan is to take all BST and DRG, but we're only 5, the guy we would take for the 6th spot is SMN75. Would that do?
- DRG
- BST
- RDM
- NIN
- MNK, WAR, DRK as long as they are backed by a WHM
My question: could a SMN solo one? With no mage back up, my plan is to take all BST and DRG, but we're only 5, the guy we would take for the 6th spot is SMN75. Would that do?
pld/nin,& thf/nin can both solo a scorp easy prey
Aileronn wrote:
I'm planning to do this one soon. Just a recap, correct me if I'm wrong since I didn't try that KSNM, and I'm basing this on what I read here: The jobs that can solo a Scorpion are:
- DRG
- BST
- RDM
- NIN
- MNK, WAR, DRK as long as they are backed by a WHM
My question: could a SMN solo one? With no mage back up, my plan is to take all BST and DRG, but we're only 5, the guy we would take for the 6th spot is SMN75. Would that do?
- DRG
- BST
- RDM
- NIN
- MNK, WAR, DRK as long as they are backed by a WHM
My question: could a SMN solo one? With no mage back up, my plan is to take all BST and DRG, but we're only 5, the guy we would take for the 6th spot is SMN75. Would that do?
I've soloed one EASILY as SMN. I pull out Ramuh, send him in first so that they all aggro him. Everyone has their scorp targeted and locked already. They all attack and run to their assigned spots. I retreat Ramuh back to my spot and Chaotic Strike away from a safe distance.
After two Chaotic Strikes the scorp is dead and I have enough mp to take out another or to help with 2 more if others have trouble.
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MNK/NIN does not need WHM help, assuming they dont completly suck and have Ni. idk about war or drk, havent tried with either of them.
Edited, Feb 22nd 2007 2:37am by Landok
Edited, Feb 22nd 2007 2:37am by Landok
Anybody who thinks the drops on this ksnm are good haven't done it enough...or maybe it's me that hasn't done it enough. I'm beginning to think SE hates me. Done this BC 13 times now and best I've ever gotten were O ingots...twice. I'm fed up with this. never have I gotten anything I would consider worth the time or effort to farm 30 KS. /end rant
48 posts
you can lol drg this if you want but drg/whm pwns this
Edited, Jan 22nd 2007 1:53am by Icilies
Edited, Jan 22nd 2007 1:54am by Icilies
Edited, Jan 22nd 2007 1:53am by Icilies
Edited, Jan 22nd 2007 1:54am by Icilies
After reading most of the posts, I figured as Pld/War I'd never be able to do this KSNM without/nin sub. Well.... we proved that wrong 7 ways to Sunday last night. Here was our setup:
75 Pld/War
72 Pld/War (Me)
72 Whm/Blm
73 Blm/Rdm
72 Rdm/Blm
75 Bst/Whm
As you can see, not a Nin or /Nin in the batch. Went in, buffed up, ate our food and had our Blm ES/Sleppga II the lot of them. Our 75 Pld took the middle scorp, and pulled it off to the left. Our Bst went in and pulled the front left Scorp to the zone entrance. I went in and pulled the front right scorp all the way to the right. The mages all moved towards the back wall. The idea was to keep the scorps AoE effect from waking the other scorps as much as possible. While the 3 of us soloed our scorps, the Blm and Rdm kept sleeping anything that woke up. Our Whm ran back and forth keeping us all up. Whenever possible, our Blm would also help nuke the scorps to speed up the process. Once we finished off our scorp, we would move to pick a 2nd. Twice things got a bit hairy when all 6 woke too soon, but we managed to keep an eye on everything. We have some real tough mages. =)
We did this 10 times total. Only 5 deaths total in 10 runs. We got every possible drop and are splitting the drops 6 ways. Nice easy way to make gil and have a fun fight. Thank you to my LS mates in IfritsEmbers for a great night!
Tyreewere
72 Galka Pld/War
Ifrit Server
Edited, Jan 7th 2007 1:54pm by Tyreewere
75 Pld/War
72 Pld/War (Me)
72 Whm/Blm
73 Blm/Rdm
72 Rdm/Blm
75 Bst/Whm
As you can see, not a Nin or /Nin in the batch. Went in, buffed up, ate our food and had our Blm ES/Sleppga II the lot of them. Our 75 Pld took the middle scorp, and pulled it off to the left. Our Bst went in and pulled the front left Scorp to the zone entrance. I went in and pulled the front right scorp all the way to the right. The mages all moved towards the back wall. The idea was to keep the scorps AoE effect from waking the other scorps as much as possible. While the 3 of us soloed our scorps, the Blm and Rdm kept sleeping anything that woke up. Our Whm ran back and forth keeping us all up. Whenever possible, our Blm would also help nuke the scorps to speed up the process. Once we finished off our scorp, we would move to pick a 2nd. Twice things got a bit hairy when all 6 woke too soon, but we managed to keep an eye on everything. We have some real tough mages. =)
We did this 10 times total. Only 5 deaths total in 10 runs. We got every possible drop and are splitting the drops 6 ways. Nice easy way to make gil and have a fun fight. Thank you to my LS mates in IfritsEmbers for a great night!
Tyreewere
72 Galka Pld/War
Ifrit Server
Edited, Jan 7th 2007 1:54pm by Tyreewere
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I did this ks30 only for a Senjuinrikio and/or Expunger....didn't even want the V.claw or the money drops (wouldn't have minded if they did drop though) but all I got from this stupid (but easy) KSNM30 was the O.Ingot, Palmerin's shield, demon horn and a Rampager ><
Don't want any of this junk..but I'll put it up on ah for sh*ts and giggles....
Don't want any of this junk..but I'll put it up on ah for sh*ts and giggles....
Well if you want to use your Kindreds seals that have been rotting away in your mog house but worry about not having the correct jobs to participate then worry not, KSNM 30 Desert swarm is mind-numbingly easy. any 74+ job with Utsu:Ni subjob can solo a scorp, and there is a added opportunity for support jobs like COR and BRD if you take a BLM along to sleep one or 2 scorps.
Just finished 5 runs at this earlier. 3 runs were junk, someone else got a Damascus ingot. I was lucky enough to get both V claw and Damascus ingot on my orb <3.
Out of 6 orbs i'd say chances are at least 1 orb will be getting a big money drop, but its all chance... could be better could be worse.
Try your luck with this KSNM, very very easy and arguably best drops of any KS30.
Just finished 5 runs at this earlier. 3 runs were junk, someone else got a Damascus ingot. I was lucky enough to get both V claw and Damascus ingot on my orb <3.
Out of 6 orbs i'd say chances are at least 1 orb will be getting a big money drop, but its all chance... could be better could be worse.
Try your luck with this KSNM, very very easy and arguably best drops of any KS30.
AesHQ wrote:
Well if you want to use your Kindreds seals that have been rotting away in your mog house but worry about not having the correct jobs to participate then worry not, KSNM 30 Desert swarm is mind-numbingly easy. any 74+ job with Utsu:Ni subjob can solo a scorp, and there is a added opportunity for support jobs like COR and BRD if you take a BLM along to sleep one or 2 scorps.
HA! I, as a 74SAM/21NIN solo'ed one without 2h'ing (I did it on another one, and that thing went down like a rock, and for some odd reason, I could only land the Frag SC for yukikaze -> gekko...). Even our MNK, who was subbing WAR could easily solo one.
I do agree with the fact that it is easy, as long as no one is in range of another's scorp's AoE...
Did 6 runs, 1 V-claw dropped (go yoyd random rule^^ (the yoyd random rule = everyone /random's and each person counts their's as odd or even, and whichever has higher numbers wins (I guess a split is a re-roll...). Odds=yoyd; evens=share gains)). When we weren't in range of each other, it was really fun.
4 people at 3, 6, 9, and 12, where the entrance to the main room is 6, one at the exit of the tunnel, and one at the entrance point. That's our positions, for no sleepers. GL to those who want to do it^^.
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this KSNM is very easy, blm/whm, Elemental Seal Sleepga II, 4x rdm/nin takes one each, blm keeps 5th slept, rdm/whm keeps 6th slept, while blm & rdm keep everyone alive. its really simple, good strat, works like a charm every time, and it even works with 2x rdm/nin, rdm/whm, and blm/whm.
Otsego
75 Black Mage, 62 Red Mage, 37 White Mage
Remora Bastok Rank 6
Zilart Mission 14
CoP Mission 2-5
Otsego
75 Black Mage, 62 Red Mage, 37 White Mage
Remora Bastok Rank 6
Zilart Mission 14
CoP Mission 2-5
did this a couple of days ago, setup DRK/NIN, DRG/NIN, THF/NIN, MNK/NIN, RDM/BLM, WHM/BLM. RDM runs in elemantel seal, sleepaga. DRG takes one scorp off to the side and solo's it, monk takes one off to the side, solos it. DRK (me) takes one down the ramp, duo's it with thief. WHM keeps us all healed up, keeps haste on the DRK, RDM keeps the others asleep.
When done with the first scorp, I stunned one sleeping one, and used Last Resort to get more hate off the RDM and I duo it away from other again with the thief. When I got the second one to 1/2 life, I pop souleater and guilotine to finish it off. Then go help kill last 2 scorps and we are done...
Last fight the thief DC'ed, so we did it with 5 of us, same strat, but drk soloing. Beat it no prob....Easiest BC fight I have EVER done...
Edited, Oct 12th 2006 at 10:49am PDT by yodale
When done with the first scorp, I stunned one sleeping one, and used Last Resort to get more hate off the RDM and I duo it away from other again with the thief. When I got the second one to 1/2 life, I pop souleater and guilotine to finish it off. Then go help kill last 2 scorps and we are done...
Last fight the thief DC'ed, so we did it with 5 of us, same strat, but drk soloing. Beat it no prob....Easiest BC fight I have EVER done...
Edited, Oct 12th 2006 at 10:49am PDT by yodale
Scholar
40 posts
Hey Garetjax here from Bahamut. I'm a 75 BST and ive done this ksnm many times. Most any 75 DD job can solo a scorp in here. I can solo one with no problem with my pet tanking half the time and me the other with ut NI. Also if you use the Gaudy Harness/2x Rune Axe combination you will have +10 HP regen every 2-3 seconds so you never really lose to much HP. It would be easy for any 75 DD party to all solo the scorps but I think 6x BST could do it very well as a result of our pets taking most of the direct damage from the scorps.
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